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It's Halloween, Let's All Idol-Worship Tonight!
The Jewish Press ^ | 10/31/'12 | Tzvi Fishman

Posted on 10/31/2012 10:31:16 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

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To: familyop

I think I learned all I needed to know about this subject and this thread by reading to this point.

Pretty clear to me.


101 posted on 10/31/2012 1:13:02 PM PDT by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: MarkL; Zionist Conspirator
For Hitler, it was a matter of removing the “pollution” from society, and liquidating those who “caused” the “pollution.” In the case of Halacha, since Jews have been dispersed around the globe since biblical days, the law was designed to keep Jews from participating in the local religious festivities and losing their Jewish religious identity.

Let's suppose that Messianic Jews in Israel, born in Israel and Israeli citizens, started becoming more successful in bringing other Israelis to Christ. What solution would you offer for the situation? Hopefully not a final solution.

102 posted on 10/31/2012 1:15:11 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Since Judaism is the root of Catholicism and all other Christian denominations......


103 posted on 10/31/2012 1:15:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: US Navy Vet
In the Old Testament Almighty G*D used a Jackass, Several Heathen Monarchs(Nebercanezer(sp/), Cyrus the Great, and Darius, don’t YOU think that Almighty G*D can used EVEN a Misguided MORMAM to do his work?

I won't say he can't...for Almighty G*D even has allowed Satan to operate at times to function in ways we don't readily admit...that's what the word "sovereign" implies...

The tendency, however, when you look thru the Old Testament is for God to not use open idolaters...

(Otherwise, who would get the "glory" for a great Mormon presidency...why the distinct Mormon gods, of course!)

104 posted on 10/31/2012 1:18:15 PM PDT by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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To: cripplecreek
If we can celebrate the Jewish Holiday of Baseball, I have no problem with Jews celebrating Halloween or Christmas.

In any case I suspect G-d is OK with anything that brings us together.

Shawn Green approves your post Cripple!

As for Halloween, dressing up and having fun is no different then me Enjoying Playing Skyrim just because it draws from Pagan Norse Mythology


105 posted on 10/31/2012 1:22:07 PM PDT by KC_Lion ( Wherever I find myself standing, I forever stand with Israel.)
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To: mmichaels1970
The article mentions not observing holidays such as July 4th, Memorial Day (USA), and Groundhog day as well.

That's way over the top. I grew up in a very Orthodox Jewish home, and all holidays were divided into 3 groups-- Jewish holidays, which we of course observed; "American holidays," which we also observed (Thanksgiving, 4th of July, Memorial Day, Washington's Birthday, etc.), and "Christian holidays," which we didn't observe (though we respected our gentile neighbors who did, and certainly didn't bad mouth them). My parents considered Halloween and Valentines Day to be in the "Christian holiday" group, but we knew plenty of other Jews who put those two into the "American holidays" category.

106 posted on 10/31/2012 1:26:31 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Was it authorized at Sinai?

Does it matter?

Random Internet Dude clearly thinks so.

I think not.

Look . . . I know where you're coming from.

No, actually, you don't. And you're very presumptuous to claim that you do.

Chrstianity doesn't listen to G-d.

Wrong. And we don't have any superstition about spelling out the word "God", either.

There is no "new testament" in my Bible.

Well ... there's your problem, right there.

I do doubt that you are "convinced."

Your doubts are your problem.

Not mine.

RaMBa"N wiped the floor with chrstians in medieval Spain.

Whatever ... some folks are impressed with people's "performance" in "debates". I am not; indeed, I find that the "debate" may be the worst of all possible ways of determining truth.

I wonder if this is happening to Fundamentalist Protestant anti-"halloween" threads?

Fundamentalist Protestant threads don't babble about "Xtian" "pollution".

Beyond that, I generally agree with the Fundamentalist Protestants ... Halloween (as 'celebrated' in these United States today) has become creepy, vile, and perverse.

107 posted on 10/31/2012 1:28:53 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Salvation

Everything is a subtext for this poster to bash Christianity...just keep reading the thread.


108 posted on 10/31/2012 1:32:35 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Little Ray; Zionist Conspirator
Jewish law also forbids cheeseburgers based on an incredibly over-zealous interpretation of a law about not cooking a calf in its mother's milk.

How could that be? The cheese and the meat come from different breeds of cattle--the cheese from Holsteins and Jerseys and the meat from Herefords, long horns, etc.

109 posted on 10/31/2012 1:34:01 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: rbmillerjr

I realize that the thread (postings are not almost all in error.


110 posted on 10/31/2012 1:35:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Colofornian

In other words, a meaningless vote.

And I stand by my initial comment.


111 posted on 10/31/2012 1:36:35 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Colofornian

“The tendency, however, when you look thru the Old Testament is for God to not use open idolaters...” Are YOU saying that G*D didn’t use Solomon(sp?) a man who brought Idols INSIDE the Temple?


112 posted on 10/31/2012 1:42:13 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Since Chr*st is a false "gxd,"

Shy can't you spell out "Christ," "Christian" and "God"? Perhaps you are fearful that Jesus of Nazareth really is the Messiah, as foretold many times in the scriptures from Genesis to Chronicles.

113 posted on 10/31/2012 1:42:43 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: KC_Lion

Lets not forget Sandy Koufax.

I never have been able to track down where the practice of playing the Hava Nagila at baseball games came from.


114 posted on 10/31/2012 1:49:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: No_More_Harkin
". . . trolling for anti-semitic remarks . . ."

I think you hit the nail on the head with that.

While Protestants like to sweep a few facts under the rug, Jewish folks have little or no reason to trust or believe anyone who sings the praises Luther. They know full well it was no accident that Kristallnacht in 1938 occurred on Luther's birthday, or that most of what followed was exactly what Luther said should be done in his paper, "The Jews and Their Lies".

What better time and place to troll than where a whole crowd is praising someone who preached that all the synagogues and Jewish books should be burned, the property of all Jews confiscated, and any Jews who didn't flee to other countries killed?

Celebrating, "Reformation Day" at Halloween is an example of someone thinking they're very clever when in fact they didn't think their brilliant idea through. People who try very hard to ignore and deflect any mention of the fact that Luther advocated vandalism and arson directed at the Jews, turn right around and do their best to associate Luther with the day of the year most people associate with that very sort of vandalism.

If someone with good sense had thought it through, "Reformation Day" would have be December 10th when Luther burned a Papal Bull.

As it stands now, we have yet another example of how those who follow Eve rather than Christ may have the best of intentions, but foul their own nest by listening to whatever spirit happens to be hanging from a nearby tree.

115 posted on 10/31/2012 2:03:44 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: cripplecreek
That is a very good question.

You can't get much more Jewish than that melody.

All I know is it is from a Melody in the Ukraine and was used big time after the British Victory over the Ottomans in the First World War.

In some ways it is the unofficial anthem of the Jewish People XD.

Because really, what is the first thing YOU think of when it starts?

116 posted on 10/31/2012 2:17:13 PM PDT by KC_Lion ( Wherever I find myself standing, I forever stand with Israel.)
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To: Lurker; Zionist Conspirator

“Some people are simply the sworn enemies of fun.”

The Jewish “version” of this is Purim.

Our kids dress up, eat crap, and the parents drink too much. Very fun -— and Biblical.

You guys have fun tonight.


117 posted on 10/31/2012 2:26:50 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: KC_Lion

I suspect it because there were a lot of Jews in the early major league cities like NY , Detroit, Boston etc. After all, my great grandfather was apparently a Polish Jew who ended up working for the Purple gang who were a Jewish gang.


118 posted on 10/31/2012 2:48:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Little Ray
Jewish law also forbids cheeseburgers based on an incredibly over-zealous interpretation of a law about not cooking a calf in its mother's milk. This requires the kosher kitchen to have two complete sets cooking utensils. If you ask me, that is taking things just a bit far.

The regulation has been "simplified" into not being able to mix meat and dairy, and that there's a class of foods being "parve," meaning that they can be eaten with either meat or dairy.

Here's something that's always baffled me though...Given the above statement of not "cooking a calf in its mother's milk," why is it that you CAN fry chicken using eggs in the batter, yet you can't add milk to the batter, even though chickens do not give milk, since chicken is classified as "meat."

Just something that I wondered since childhood.

Mark

119 posted on 10/31/2012 2:56:25 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Fiji Hill

You are missing the oral law in your statement.

The oral law was also given to Moshe. The written law is essentially the headnotes. It’s not the complete law.

A very brief background on the milk/meat issue.

The law regarding milk and meat prohibition probably stems from the Cannanite ritual of boiling infant children alive in their mother’s milk —— a ritual also done with animals.

This is abhorrent on many levels, but particularly so because it uses life (milk) to create meat (death).

It is the complete rejection of mixing life and death as done by the Cannanites -— and a complete rejection of their culture -— that is spoken of in the Torah and Talmud and why the overall regulation is broader than the statement in the written law.


120 posted on 10/31/2012 2:57:29 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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