It's Halloween, Let's All Idol-Worship Tonight!

The Jewish Press ^ | 10/31/'12 | Tzvi Fishman

[Cronos]

Of course Jewish holidays could be fun, but not for a polluted - inferior - Christian, because I am not invited.

And this is where we have one silly statement "Christian pollution" causing a reaction then a counter-reaction, creating or hardening prejudices and playing into the hands of those who wish to push that prejudice (not you dadgum, I'm just saying that the original statement caused a fault)

[Cronos]

Zionist Conspirator: Chr*st is a false "gxd,"

ok, thank you for your forthright expressed statements

[ansel12]

I’m not even on this thread, there was no need to ping me.

[jjotto]

...without the schizophrenia of observing the holidays of gentile countries and cultures in foreign gentile lands...

Well, there's a saying among some religious Jews: "Better to live in a land of true goyim than to live in a land of Jewish goyim."

[Cronos]

Just pointing out how similar your personal stance is to Hitler's. Most Jews I know are rational adults unlike yourself.

as far as I know, ZionistC is not Jewish but something called a Noahcide. Real conservative believing Jews on FR don't make such statements as "Christian pollution" etc.

[Cronos]

As I’ve told before, the knee-jerk anti-Christian stance (and you can see it in every post) is as disgusting and vile as the hateful, false Protocols

[Cronos]

Just thought you’d be interested in this thread. Apologies if this disturbed you

[Cronos]

a saying among some religious Jews: "Better to live in a land of true goyim than to live in a land of Jewish goyim."

Thank you for that -- and that encapsulates the views of most if not all conservative believing Jews who may disagree severely with Christian belief but can be tactful enough not to call it "Christian pollution"

[Hacksaw]

Now you're being absolutely ridiculous. There is no separate American "gxd" or "religion." There is only the One True G-d and His Laws for all mankind. Chrstian holidays (whether in America or elsewhere) violate these Laws.

No they don't. Christian are not bound by the the babylonian talmud any more than they are Koran, and they never will be. Jesus freed us from all that nonsense. Charging the windmills won't change that. Shabbos goys don't get to tell others what to believe.

[ansel12]

Rather than trying to read my mind and put a negative spin on it, how about simply not pinging me to threads that I’m not on.

[PA Engineer]

Check out these genuinely fun Jewish holidays:

Purim could be fun and much appreciated (today more than ever Haman needs to be hung on his own gallows), but Sukkot was the most enjoyable to me. YMMV. JMHO.

[PapaBear3625]

Sadly, articles like these destroy Jewish-Christian relations and play into the false image of them saying " Xtian pollution," -- articles like this serve no purpose except to drive a wedge.

There are times when I think that if a Muslim wanted to run a false-flag operation to create discord between Christians and Jews, he would be hard-pressed doing a better job than we see here.

[onedoug]

I’ll yet thank God for Christianity - even thought I’m not Christian - as it seems demonstrable that the United States could not have been founded without it.

[Little Ray]

I have to say, being Gentile, I have never given it a thought. As I said, its is great that St. Paul got us a dispensation on it...

[Boogieman]

“Although most people don’t know it, Noachide Law also forbids creating new religions or holidays, so such observations as “halloween” are forbidden to non-Jews as well.”

Oh yeah? Please show us the verse that says that. From the Word of God, not from your traditions.

It would seem to me that, since those laws bind Jews and Gentiles alike, then such a prohibition on creating new holidays would also forbid the observation of Hannukah, a man-made holiday, would it not?

[Boogieman]

“It is forbidden to utter the names of false “gxds.””

So, Jews never say the names of days of the week then?

[Boogieman]

“The Torah was given at Sinai, and it is forbidden to create any new religion after that.”

Forbidden to men, but not forbidden to God. He may do as He pleases.

[Fiji Hill]

as far as I know, ZionistC is not Jewish but something called a Noahcide. Real conservative believing Jews on FR don't make such statements as "Christian pollution" etc.

That may explain his Chirstophobia. I have never met a Christophobic Jew, and every Christian I know respects the Jewish faith.

[Boogieman]

“The oral law was also given to Moshe. The written law is essentially the headnotes. It’s not the complete law.”

Hogwash. Even if that were true, that oral law would have been completely lost to the Jews long, long ago, so the “oral law” that you have today could not possibly be the same. Don’t you remember, even the written law was forgetten by the unfaithful Israelites until they rediscovered the Book of the Law in the Ark of the Covenant?

So, if they didn’t bother to preserve the written law, then there is no way that they preserved some “oral law” from the time of Moses.

[wideawake]

While the original author of the text is clearly a vile individual in a number of ways, the article is also more than a bit silly.

The objection seems to be that Hallowe'en is "idol worship" because it is connected to the original Christian practice of veneration of the saints.

If the author believes himself to be an Orthodox Jew, then he is part of a tradition that venerates the sages.

The Christian veneration of saints is nothing other than a continuation of the traditional Jewish practice of venerating the relics and tombs and memory of the prophets and the sages.

The only distinction is that Orthodox Jews and Orthodox Christians disagree on which individuals should be venerated.

If a Christian is an idolater for visiting Lourdes, a Jew is an idolater for visting the grave of the Baal Shem Tov.