To: Natural Law; Rashputin; ansel12; Gamecock
....the problem is that the Catholics are not a cohesive block because conservatism has been defined so as to clash with much of Catholic doctrine. We Catholics have effectively allowed the American political system to divide the Church against itself. Although the Democratic Party has increasingly aligned itself with positions that are in direct conflict with Catholic teaching, the Republican Party does not represent a strong moral alternative. Even when they can muster an actual Conservative candidate the Republican party stands only timidly for life and the traditional family while demonizing social justice and the plight of the poor, the immigrants and various other sinners. The Democrat Party preaches social justice and anti-poverty while bathed in the blood of the unborn and benefiting from the demise of the family. Neither party offered a clear choice except between the speed with which we pursue our demise as the shining city on the hill. And both parties presented significant dilemmas to Catholic voters.
In other words, your post advocates redefining "conservatism" to include liberal ideals that this site derides. Why are you posting here? Democratic Underground awaits you!
I don't get what your complaint is. The way I look at it, over 60% of Americans voted yesterday in support of 80% of Catholic social doctrine, at least as your post defines it. For all intents and purposes, the majority of your views won last night.
posted on 11/07/2012 9:44:59 PM PST
by Alex Murphy
("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
To: Alex Murphy
"I don't get what your complaint is."<\I>
There is a lot you don't get. You also don't get to define conservative orthodoxy. In the hierarchy of Catholic values are the six non-negotables, that all lost yesterday. But Catholic social teaching also includes the eight Beatitudes, which I'm sure many "conservatives" would be surprised to learn are not welcome on Free Republic or the Religion Forum. This rejection of Catholic doctrine by both parties too often results in an unacceptable dilemma for many Catholics which results in them staying home on election day. Catholics no not owe either party their votes any more than Tea Party members do. However since a united Catholic block would dominate either party any party courting their votes would have to make some concessions. Your contempt for anything Catholic only reinforces the old saying that we get the government we deserve. That is especially true in your case.
Peace be with you.
posted on 11/07/2012 10:19:14 PM PST
by Natural Law
(Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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