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Posted on 11/14/2012 10:44:44 PM PST by reaganaut
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To: chris37
Anyhow, Religion Moderator, I do appreciate your reasonable responses. I know you have a particulary tough job moderating this section, So Ill not make it any tougher for you. Ive said what I have to say, so Ill walk away now.
I detect a disturbance in the Force...
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posted on
11/16/2012 1:19:32 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: morphing libertarian
Sorry I’m a week or so late; but Happy Anniversary anyway!
362
posted on
11/16/2012 1:21:05 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: morphing libertarian
I dint know why the owner allows the persistent attacks.It's called PAYBACK!
MORMONism is a CULT that slanders ALL of Christianity!
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
Orson Pratt also said: "This
great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (
Journal of Discourses , vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).
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posted on
11/16/2012 1:22:37 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: chris37
Im sure that others do not agree with that assessment, but in my life, its my opinion that holds the most weight.We've noticed.
But, you are probably young yet; with a lot more life ahead of you.
You will learn other things as you travel thru that will change your opinions of all kinds of things.
Cheers!
364
posted on
11/16/2012 1:24:48 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: svcw
BUT... is it THE answer??
365
posted on
11/16/2012 1:28:09 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: metmom
Members of the LDS Church are familiar with the charge that Mormonism isn't a Christian faith. They hear it often enough, but they really don't understand why people think that Could be because they don't KNOW much about their CHOSEN religion!
366
posted on
11/16/2012 1:29:26 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
I would rather become a mormon that spend another minute with you.
Your kind of zealotry should be banned, but then I don’t own the site.
Buzz off.
To: Elsie
No, I do not, please stop spamming me, please mental fart someone else.
This is my last worded post to you ever, from this point forward if you post to me you will get only the moo cow as a response.
368
posted on
11/16/2012 3:00:51 PM PST
by
chris37
(Heartless.)
To: Elsie
No, I do not, please stop spamming me, please mental fart someone else.
This is my last worded post to you ever, from this point forward if you post to me you will get only the moo cow as a response.
369
posted on
11/16/2012 3:01:54 PM PST
by
chris37
(Heartless.)
To: morphing libertarian; Elsie
Your kind of zealotry should be banned, but then I dont own the site. Looks like the world is full of control freaks.
Everybody and their brother wants to ban what the Constitution defends, free speech and freedom of religion.
Funny comments to be made by someone who has *libertarian* in their screen name.
Or is live and let live only applicable when you want to do something and not for everyone else when THEY want to do something?
370
posted on
11/16/2012 3:04:55 PM PST
by
metmom
(For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
To: morphing libertarian
Your kind of zealotry should be banned, but then I dont own the site.So; YOU would like to have control; and limit or end my free speech.
Are you SURE a Conservative site REALLY matches your politics?
Voltaire you ain't!
371
posted on
11/16/2012 3:18:22 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: chris37
No, I do not, please stop spamming me, please mental fart someone else. Poor baby; cannot stand the heat; eh?
Keep your cow; it is liable to get butchered and eaten.
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posted on
11/16/2012 3:19:48 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: chris37
This is my last worded post to you ever...I just LOVE it when a plan comes together!!
373
posted on
11/16/2012 3:20:42 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
This is a conservative site where certain views are not allowed. It is not a purely free speech site.
Your spinning that opens the rest of your posts to suspicion.
Now I promise, no matter what you say or what lie you respond with, we’re done.
To: metmom
Where did you get the impression this site recognizes free speech. I have read the owners positions and seen dozens banned.
Nice try, no cigar.
As a former libertarian I know that private parties don’t have to grant free speech rights. It’s the owners site and he can do what he wants.
To: metmom
Where did you get the impression this site recognizes free speech. I have read the owners positions and seen dozens banned.
Nice try, no cigar.
As a former libertarian I know that private parties don’t have to grant free speech rights. It’s the owners site and he can do what he wants.
To: morphing libertarian
To: morphing libertarian
dozens?
Do you know why people might get banned?
378
posted on
11/16/2012 4:15:15 PM PST
by
svcw
(Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
To: svcw
I know several reasons but I have see people banned for being liberal trolls.
The point was we don’t have free speech guarantees in private ownership situations. The owner has made his position know. Do you disagree?
To: svcw
I know several reasons but I have see people banned for being liberal trolls.
The point was we don’t have free speech guarantees in private ownership situations. The owner has made his position know. Do you disagree?
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