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Thanksgiving Day shopping called 'assault' on family life
cna ^ | November 22, 2012 | Kevin J. Jones

Posted on 11/22/2012 2:16:10 PM PST by NYer

Denver, Colo., Nov 22, 2012 / 06:10 am (CNA/EWTN News).- The expansion of Thanksgiving weekend shopping to the holiday itself has raised concerns among both workers and clergy who worry that the change puts family time at risk.

Father Sinclair Oubre, Spiritual Moderator of the Texas-based Catholic Labor Network, said the store openings are a “disturbing trend” that is “an assault on the family.”

“We have almost completed the evolutionary process of having two classes of workers: those who get holidays off, and can stay with their families, and those who are forced to work, so that those who have holidays off won't have to stay with their families,” Fr. Oubre said.

Retailers such as Sears, Wal-Mart, Target, Kmart, Toys “R” Us and Gap are increasingly opening their stores on Thanksgiving Day. The following day, known as Black Friday, is one of the most profitable shopping days of the year.

Business analysts cite increased competition from internet shopping and some customers’ desires to shop on Thanksgiving as motives to open stores on what is traditionally a day off, according to the Wall Street Journal.

In 2011, retailers who opened on Thanksgiving Day earned 22 percent more over the Thanksgiving Day weekend.

Two popular internet petitions on the Change.org website are protesting the changes.

Casey St. Clair, a Target employee of six years from Corona, Calif., organized one petition to “save Thanksgiving” that now has over 370,000 signatures.

She said Thanksgiving Day off “really does give me that one day to relax and visit family I otherwise have no time to see.”

Introducing more business hours on the evening of Thanksgiving Day means that employees need to arrive hours before the store opens, she explained.

Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York criticized the new phenomenon of Thanksgiving Day shopping in a Nov. 20 essay in the New York Post.

“The stores, we hear, will open on Thanksgiving. Isn’t that a sign of progress and liberation?” he asked. “Sorry, but no — it’s a sign of a further descent into a highly privatized, impersonal, keep-people-at-a-distance culture, one that values having stuff and doing things over just being with people whom we love, cherish and appreciate.”

The cardinal said he will pray this Thanksgiving that God preserve “a culture where personal friendship, genuine conversation and family unity can be a high priority.”

“I’ll beg God to keep those values constant in our society,” he said. “Why? Because I’m fearful they’re disappearing.”


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: blackfriday; culturewars; retail; thanksgiving
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Einherjar; TXBlair
I think the stores should be closed on Thanksgiving. They were when I was young, and we were all grateful for it. But that was a better America.

Life was simpler and happier. We were spared the plethora of "must have" electronic devices, from cradle to grave. People talked to each other, be it on the front stoop or over a fence. Today, "txtng" is the preferred mode of communication. Back then, the news was delivered to the tv for half an hour .. today, it is round the clock. Sports were for amusement; now, they have become an excuse to skip church, in some households, especially for the kids.

As for people working on holidays, that was true for the police and hospitals when we were younger. The big difference is that back then, people obeyed the law and parents treated minor injuries at home, instead of running over to the emergency room at the local hospital.

I am grateful for having experienced life in a strong and self-sufficient America.

61 posted on 11/22/2012 7:48:45 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: EBH

...I do support the workers at Walmart not working TONIGHT!
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Don’t know about your area, but my WalMart is open 24/7 so many employees work at night.

I was at my local WM this morning and their were NO protesters. I heard one of the Managers saying to workers that they had many volunteers who would work today and Friday.

The vast majority of WM workers like their jobs, benefits and profit sharing and want nothing to do with the labor unions, who only want to get more dues to support socialism/communism.


62 posted on 11/22/2012 8:53:17 PM PST by octex
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To: discostu

I give your posting #16 a thumbs-up! You nailed it.

I once worked for an airline and often worked on holidays. It was no big deal and family made adjustments sometimes.

Same occurred later when I worked for a high-tech defense contractor (TI) and we worked 15 hours a day, 7 days a week for about 6 months. Almost got fired there when I took a day off to be in my little sister’s wedding.


63 posted on 11/22/2012 9:16:06 PM PST by octex
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To: NYer
Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York criticized the new phenomenon of Thanksgiving Day shopping in a Nov. 20 essay in the New York Post.

I can't understand why Thanksgiving Day shopping would be so disturbing to this guy, when you consider that Sunday shopping has become commonplace even for many so-called Catholics. I wonder if Cardinal Dolan has made any recent pronouncements about Catholics dishonoring the Lord's Day by shopping for discretionary items?

64 posted on 11/22/2012 9:41:53 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Alberta's Child
for discretionary items?

What are these mysterious "discretionary items"? Pimple cures, tampons, adult diapers, diarrhea remedies, condoms?

65 posted on 11/22/2012 9:48:36 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I would normally agree with the sentiment on this thread, but I tend to be skeptical of motives when a Catholic priest launches a protest against working on a civil holiday like Thanksgiving, even while he apparently ignores the same issue on Sundays and Catholic religious holidays.


66 posted on 11/22/2012 9:49:51 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Revolting cat!

How about nearly everything inside the walls of a Best Buy store, for starters?


67 posted on 11/22/2012 9:54:15 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: NYer

It’s only an “assault” on those families who are already shredded by the author’s “liberal” ideologies that they have no cohesion.


68 posted on 11/23/2012 5:07:18 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Bourbon! Now!


69 posted on 11/23/2012 5:18:14 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: NYer

As far as the plantation overseers in DC are concerned....if you’re not working you’d best be shopping!!!!


70 posted on 11/23/2012 5:23:39 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Alberta's Child; E. Pluribus Unum
He says the same for Sundays and religious holidays. (LINK)
71 posted on 11/23/2012 8:30:03 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Rash judgment is making a negative judgment quickly, without sufficient evidence.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The phrase "social justice" is code for Communism.

Anyone who uses the phrase "social justice" is a crypto-Marxist.

72 posted on 11/23/2012 8:32:03 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: NYer
“We have almost completed the evolutionary process of having two classes of workers: those who get holidays off, and can stay with their families, and those who are forced to work, so that those who have holidays off won't have to stay with their families,” Fr. Oubre said.

Really?

Tell that to all the cooks, waitresses, bartenders, toll takers, police, firemen, nurses, xray tecs ,hospital housekeepers, football players.ticket takers and beer salesmen at those games ...truth is much of America was at work during the dinner hour of Thanksgiving ...

73 posted on 11/23/2012 9:34:48 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Huskrrrr

Exactly..if people do not shop on Thanksgiving day no one will be open next year..


74 posted on 11/23/2012 9:35:46 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Tell that to all the cooks, waitresses, bartenders, toll takers, police, firemen, nurses, xray tecs ,hospital housekeepers, football players.ticket takers and beer salesmen at those games ...truth is much of America was at work during the dinner hour of Thanksgiving ...

The Jets' players certainly weren't. ;)

75 posted on 11/23/2012 9:36:51 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: NYer

76 posted on 11/23/2012 9:42:39 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Well, you've either decided that ceding the vocabulary of justice to the Left is the road to rhetorical success, or you're willing to shut out Jack Kemp, Paul Ryan, the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute, and the Acton Institute and other Free Enterprise supporters as Marxists.

Or, more likely, you're just being querulous. Too bad the nog doesn't make you merry.

77 posted on 11/23/2012 10:38:53 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Rash judgment is making a negative judgment quickly, without sufficient evidence.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You are perfectly free to not shop or not work on those days.

But you seek to impose your will onto others.

Sounds like fascism to me.

78 posted on 11/23/2012 11:20:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Lol. I haven't the power, nor have I made an attempt to impose my will on anyone. I guess you take expressing an opinion as an imposition?

Try the nog. Really.

79 posted on 11/23/2012 11:25:31 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. (John 6:53))
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You're whining because businesses are open and people are shopping on holy days.

Explain exactly what it is that you want, or do you just like to whine?

80 posted on 11/23/2012 11:38:48 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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