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Thanksgiving Day shopping called 'assault' on family life
cna ^ | November 22, 2012 | Kevin J. Jones

Posted on 11/22/2012 2:16:10 PM PST by NYer

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Pretty soon, the only people who won’t be working on Thanksgiving and Christmas will be government employees.


51 posted on 11/22/2012 4:21:26 PM PST by petitfour
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To: discostu

The blocks ends at exactly 15, 30 minutes, etc., because the programming finally catches up and synchs the correct feed to the channel requirement. No engineer is within even 45 minutes driving distance of the tower and shack and these are many times inaccessible for days at a time in the winter.


52 posted on 11/22/2012 4:22:04 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: GalaxyAB

Be careful what you wish for.....someday...we may have this...EMP? Dead business climate...


53 posted on 11/22/2012 4:36:05 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; NYer
Serious charges, if true. Serious slander, if not.

Do you have any documentation showing ties between Fr. Oubre, and the Communists/White House?

Really, I'd be interested to know.

54 posted on 11/22/2012 5:08:07 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: Einherjar; TXBlair
Some people have to work on Thanksgiving: the police, the military, medical and emergency personnel; some don't.

I agree with this priest that it's a decent, solidly American-traditional, family-friendly and God-pleasing thing to have a day free of the merchandizing stampede, when people can gather their family frm far and wide, have a fine dinner and praise the Almighty.

I think the stores should be closed on Thanksgiving. They were when I was young, and we were all grateful for it. But that was a better America.

55 posted on 11/22/2012 5:16:11 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: Huskrrrr

We should all choose not to participate-— if we possibly can. We should even choose to exercise our citizenship rights, to shape the kind of society and the kind of culture we want. I’d bring back the Blue Laws.


56 posted on 11/22/2012 5:19:39 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: petitfour
“Pretty soon, the only people who won’t be working on Thanksgiving and Christmas will be government employees.”

That's who we serve.
Don't ya know?

Just wish I had a job right now.

57 posted on 11/22/2012 5:23:56 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: TXBlair

IN my youth,only the grocery and gas stations were open on Sundays ,and only for a few hours after morning services.Something like 10am until 2 pm.

Sundays and holidays were not excuses to go shopping.

We have come so far...but is it on the right road ?


58 posted on 11/22/2012 6:23:31 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: NYer

They need to make money and it is tight.Open early and get the money.We have 9 Black Friday shoppers here at our house today who skipped it this year.


59 posted on 11/22/2012 6:28:32 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: NYer

MEMO TO GOPe: If you had appealed to the Black Friday shoppers you’d have won the election! Like, perhaps, offering a couple of percent off!


60 posted on 11/22/2012 6:31:23 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Einherjar; TXBlair
I think the stores should be closed on Thanksgiving. They were when I was young, and we were all grateful for it. But that was a better America.

Life was simpler and happier. We were spared the plethora of "must have" electronic devices, from cradle to grave. People talked to each other, be it on the front stoop or over a fence. Today, "txtng" is the preferred mode of communication. Back then, the news was delivered to the tv for half an hour .. today, it is round the clock. Sports were for amusement; now, they have become an excuse to skip church, in some households, especially for the kids.

As for people working on holidays, that was true for the police and hospitals when we were younger. The big difference is that back then, people obeyed the law and parents treated minor injuries at home, instead of running over to the emergency room at the local hospital.

I am grateful for having experienced life in a strong and self-sufficient America.

61 posted on 11/22/2012 7:48:45 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: EBH

...I do support the workers at Walmart not working TONIGHT!
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Don’t know about your area, but my WalMart is open 24/7 so many employees work at night.

I was at my local WM this morning and their were NO protesters. I heard one of the Managers saying to workers that they had many volunteers who would work today and Friday.

The vast majority of WM workers like their jobs, benefits and profit sharing and want nothing to do with the labor unions, who only want to get more dues to support socialism/communism.


62 posted on 11/22/2012 8:53:17 PM PST by octex
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To: discostu

I give your posting #16 a thumbs-up! You nailed it.

I once worked for an airline and often worked on holidays. It was no big deal and family made adjustments sometimes.

Same occurred later when I worked for a high-tech defense contractor (TI) and we worked 15 hours a day, 7 days a week for about 6 months. Almost got fired there when I took a day off to be in my little sister’s wedding.


63 posted on 11/22/2012 9:16:06 PM PST by octex
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To: NYer
Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York criticized the new phenomenon of Thanksgiving Day shopping in a Nov. 20 essay in the New York Post.

I can't understand why Thanksgiving Day shopping would be so disturbing to this guy, when you consider that Sunday shopping has become commonplace even for many so-called Catholics. I wonder if Cardinal Dolan has made any recent pronouncements about Catholics dishonoring the Lord's Day by shopping for discretionary items?

64 posted on 11/22/2012 9:41:53 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Alberta's Child
for discretionary items?

What are these mysterious "discretionary items"? Pimple cures, tampons, adult diapers, diarrhea remedies, condoms?

65 posted on 11/22/2012 9:48:36 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I would normally agree with the sentiment on this thread, but I tend to be skeptical of motives when a Catholic priest launches a protest against working on a civil holiday like Thanksgiving, even while he apparently ignores the same issue on Sundays and Catholic religious holidays.


66 posted on 11/22/2012 9:49:51 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Revolting cat!

How about nearly everything inside the walls of a Best Buy store, for starters?


67 posted on 11/22/2012 9:54:15 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: NYer

It’s only an “assault” on those families who are already shredded by the author’s “liberal” ideologies that they have no cohesion.


68 posted on 11/23/2012 5:07:18 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Bourbon! Now!


69 posted on 11/23/2012 5:18:14 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: NYer

As far as the plantation overseers in DC are concerned....if you’re not working you’d best be shopping!!!!


70 posted on 11/23/2012 5:23:39 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Alberta's Child; E. Pluribus Unum
He says the same for Sundays and religious holidays. (LINK)
71 posted on 11/23/2012 8:30:03 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Rash judgment is making a negative judgment quickly, without sufficient evidence.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The phrase "social justice" is code for Communism.

Anyone who uses the phrase "social justice" is a crypto-Marxist.

72 posted on 11/23/2012 8:32:03 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: NYer
“We have almost completed the evolutionary process of having two classes of workers: those who get holidays off, and can stay with their families, and those who are forced to work, so that those who have holidays off won't have to stay with their families,” Fr. Oubre said.

Really?

Tell that to all the cooks, waitresses, bartenders, toll takers, police, firemen, nurses, xray tecs ,hospital housekeepers, football players.ticket takers and beer salesmen at those games ...truth is much of America was at work during the dinner hour of Thanksgiving ...

73 posted on 11/23/2012 9:34:48 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Huskrrrr

Exactly..if people do not shop on Thanksgiving day no one will be open next year..


74 posted on 11/23/2012 9:35:46 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Tell that to all the cooks, waitresses, bartenders, toll takers, police, firemen, nurses, xray tecs ,hospital housekeepers, football players.ticket takers and beer salesmen at those games ...truth is much of America was at work during the dinner hour of Thanksgiving ...

The Jets' players certainly weren't. ;)

75 posted on 11/23/2012 9:36:51 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: NYer

76 posted on 11/23/2012 9:42:39 AM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Well, you've either decided that ceding the vocabulary of justice to the Left is the road to rhetorical success, or you're willing to shut out Jack Kemp, Paul Ryan, the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute, and the Acton Institute and other Free Enterprise supporters as Marxists.

Or, more likely, you're just being querulous. Too bad the nog doesn't make you merry.

77 posted on 11/23/2012 10:38:53 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Rash judgment is making a negative judgment quickly, without sufficient evidence.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You are perfectly free to not shop or not work on those days.

But you seek to impose your will onto others.

Sounds like fascism to me.

78 posted on 11/23/2012 11:20:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Lol. I haven't the power, nor have I made an attempt to impose my will on anyone. I guess you take expressing an opinion as an imposition?

Try the nog. Really.

79 posted on 11/23/2012 11:25:31 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. (John 6:53))
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You're whining because businesses are open and people are shopping on holy days.

Explain exactly what it is that you want, or do you just like to whine?

80 posted on 11/23/2012 11:38:48 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Labor unions are the Communist Party of the USA.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Haha. I'm wining.
In general, I'd like people to have a nice day, kick back, enjoy life. I'm tempted to make an exception for some --- but no, you have a nice day, too.
81 posted on 11/23/2012 1:02:25 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Petrosius
"It was Scrooge who created Marx."

What a good line, and absolutely true.

Remember, too, that the one thing Marx actually admired capitalism for, was that it was the most destructive machine the world had ever seen for crushing customary forms of social interaction, traditional communities, and cultural values.

82 posted on 11/23/2012 1:48:45 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

What both libertarian capitalism and communism have in common is that they both view people as merely objects subject to an economic goal. They differ only in that the libertarian capitalist sees that goal as the good of the isolated individual and the communist sees that goal as the collective community. Both are willing to use the individual to advance their objectives.

The true conservative, on the other hand, sees one’s brother and recognizes the inherent dignity and worth of each person. The end does not justify the means and we cannot treat others as objects to advance the good of others, whether the individual or the collective. Conservatism in the West is actually the conservation of our Christian heritage, not the absolutizing of individual freedom. We are bound to treat others not merely with justice but also with charity, i.e. love. This charity would recognize that there are limits to what we are free to do in the pursuit of happiness.

Marxism, communism, socialism, “social justice” are reactions to abuses to human dignity caused by a pagan libertarian capitalism. They err in seeking a redress through government coercion. The conservative needs a limited government not because he cares not for his fellow man but because out of Christian charity he cares for them voluntarily. Take away this voluntary charity between men and those who become the objects of the greed of others will seek redress in the force of the state.


83 posted on 11/23/2012 2:24:09 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I post these on the Daily Mass Readings thread -- echoes your thoughts.

 
Marriage = One Man and One Woman
Til' Death Do Us Part

Daily Marriage Tip for November 23, 2012:

The simplicity movement promotes the day after Thanksgiving as Buy Nothing Day. Celebrate this day by playing games, telling stories, singing, etc. as a family. Even if you still buy stuff on other days, this is a way to honor the spirit of home-made entertainment.


84 posted on 11/23/2012 3:23:10 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Very nice! Like everyone’s my cousin day!


85 posted on 11/23/2012 3:29:08 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: NYer

There have been Pro football games on Thanksgiving since the 1890s.


86 posted on 11/25/2012 8:38:34 AM PST by Borges
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Marx didn’t hate Capitalism. He saw it as a once-progressive force which improved on what it replaced (Feudalism) and that it would naturally ‘give way’ to the next step in History (communism).


87 posted on 11/25/2012 8:49:11 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Of course Marx didn’t hate capitalism. He counted on it to fatally weaken the Family and the Church, thus preparing the way for his “next step”. It does seem to be working out that way.


88 posted on 11/25/2012 2:30:46 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you, may the Lord keep you, May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace)
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89 posted on 11/25/2012 2:38:40 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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