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1 posted on 11/23/2012 6:07:29 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

To paraphrase Michael Crichton, Consensus is politics, not science. With that in mind I would add... religion is closer to politics than science


2 posted on 11/23/2012 6:11:18 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: marshmallow

A Christian Church is supposed to represent the values of Christ.


3 posted on 11/23/2012 6:11:43 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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They have it exactly opposite. The world should reflect the values of the church.


4 posted on 11/23/2012 6:16:46 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: marshmallow
Christianity is a revealed religion. It comes from the top down, not the bottom up. The one task of the hierarchy of the Church is to pass that revelation down through the generations, so that it may be available to all.

It does not need to reflect the values of society. If it finds that it does not reflect the values of society, then it need to evangelize society, not cave in.

5 posted on 11/23/2012 6:17:55 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: marshmallow
I was curious, from reading the transcript, what a "Second Church Estates Commissioner" is. ChurchOfEngland.org states the position "exists to maintain the statutory accountability of the Church Commissioners to Parliament."

Can any Anglicans here help me understand to what extent the Church of England is accountable to Parliament and/or the monarchy? I have a difficult time understanding this because Christianity is countercultural by nature, isn't it? Are there penalties government can apply toward the church if government decides the church no longer reflects societal norms? If so, to whom in the church would such penalty be directed?

Please understand that I'm genuinely curious and not interested in starting a discussion critical of or disrespectful toward Anglicans. I simply don't understand to what extent church has to answer to government. This must be a heart wrenching time for some Anglicans!

8 posted on 11/23/2012 6:51:12 PM PST by PeevedPatriot ("A wise man's heart inclines him toward the right, but a fool's heart toward the left."--Eccl 10:2)
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To: marshmallow

What ever happend to “Reflectin g the Values of God?”

Isn’t that what churches are supposed to do?


11 posted on 11/23/2012 7:25:50 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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“As a consequence of the decision by the General Synod, the Church of England no longer looks like a national Church; it simply looks like a sect, like any other sect. If it wishes to be a national Church that reflects the nation, it has to reflect the values of the nation.”

There’s something to be said about separation of church and state which means no state church not “protecting” the government from Christianity as the psycholib secularists keep trying to enforce on the rest of us.


19 posted on 11/23/2012 8:03:07 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: marshmallow

Yeah, to “hell” with the alleged Word of God.

But I suppose that’s pretty much where western civilization is headed, continually defining deviancy downward and continually defining tradition as perverse, oppressive, unjust.


22 posted on 11/23/2012 9:58:56 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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The C of E [Church of England] Must ‘Reflect the Values of the Nation’

Sorry that is not how it works. The Church of England must reflect the values of the Church of England, which hopefully are the ones instructed by God.


24 posted on 11/23/2012 11:18:56 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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