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To: Colofornian

Riddle me this batman: If you don’t believe in Mormonism, why would you bother to discuss that Mormons who don’t tithe enough get barred from Heaven, or whatever? You don’t actually believe such a thing happens. I don’t believe it, because I’m not a Mormon. Who is supposed to care about this?


4 posted on 11/28/2012 6:07:02 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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If you don’t believe in Mormonism, why would you bother to discuss that Mormons who don’t tithe enough get barred from Heaven, or whatever? You don’t actually believe such a thing happens. I don’t believe it, because I’m not a Mormon.

Lds have 55,000 full-time missionaries out there going door to door.

This is about to expand in 2013 because the Lds church has just lowered its age requirements for missionaries.

With a likely 60,000+ missionaries going out in 2013...spending 6 days a week...up to 12 hrs a day out there...people are likely to encounter either such a missionary...or a Mormon co-worker, neighbor or relative.

It's important to be well-versed enough to be conversant on at least a few key central points of Mormonism to have more meaningful dialogues with Lds.

13 posted on 11/28/2012 6:16:22 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Andrei Bulba; Colofornian
Excessively legalistic private organizations frequently run into serious trouble with ordinary morality. Let's take the exceedingly legalistic body that goes under such names as "Faith Assembly", "Church of the First Born", "General Assembly", (Some) Old Apostolic Lutheran (Laestidian and First Born) ~ and so forth ~ sometimes with combinations of those names ~ but with a sort of theological connectivity among the various leadership elites involved (In this and a number of other countries ~ to the extent they actually have recognition as a UN ngo for aboriginal groups).

Wherever they are operating they will always have the highest child and infant mortality rates off any group in the area.

Actually, you find a group that doesn't believe in medical treatment for themselves or their offspring, that's probably one of these groups.

Their behavior in regard to medical services is claimed to be theological but for the most part it's simply part of a tradition they have concerning the creation of rules and testing their faith by following those rules to the point of self-destruction.

A number of the congregations into this practice also make use of the "twin teacher" process found among the LDS, and maybe other Mormon groups. Some of this crowd actually use the ORIGINAL Book of Mormon ~ claiming Joseph Smith himself was a member or associate in his youth.

Smith used the expression "Church of the First Born" frequently in the Doctrines and Covenants.

But, let's get out of the COFB/Mormon dichotomy ~ All the Mormons seem to be over the problem with going to the doctor, but there are the anomalous Seventh Day Adventist groups out there ~ one of them called The Branch Dravidians was headed up by a fellow who called himself "Koresh" (mentioned in Mormon documents too), and he had a grandmother or great grandmother who was a member of a hard core traditionalist Church of the First Born in Oklahoma.

I don't think anyone could argue that the Branch Dravidians weren't, in the end, destroyed by their own legalisms ~ assisted by others of course ~ BTW, Bill Clinton's mother and baby-daddy were members of an Arkansas Church of the First Born congregation.

So, yes, there are people watching this problem ~ excessive legalism.

26 posted on 11/28/2012 6:35:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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