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The Most Powerful Bible Resource Ever Available
Brandon Vogt Blog ^ | 11/29/12 | Brandon Vogt

Posted on 11/29/2012 12:44:22 PM PST by marshmallow

Check back tomorrow as I'm giving away a complete Verbum Basic package from Logos. It includes 226 books and resources —a digital library worth over $2,700!

NOTE: Despite my enthusiasm, I don't work for Logos nor do I receive anything for promoting them outside of testing software. I'm just a huge fan of their products.

I've written twice before about the Logos Bible software. First I shared seven ways it can revolutionize your faith. Then I highlighted the new Logos Catechism app.

But since then, Logos has made several huge improvements. The biggest is that they've re-branded their Catholic arm, "Verbum." This short video from Andrew Jones, Director of Catholic Products, covers more of the biggest improvements:

In my mind, Verbum remains the greatest Biblical tool ever available to the Church. I can't imagine what St. Jerome, St. Augustine, or St. Thomas would have done to get their hands on it.

Thanks to Logos, I got to test-drive the Verbum software, and here are my impressions of their newest features:

1. Verbum, the Catholic Logos.

The newest and most obvious development is Verbum, a separate Logos product line for Catholics. When the company first started, Logos was initially geared toward Protestants. So it was exciting when, a couple years ago, they began moving into the Catholic market. Their early Catholic products were limited to just a few books by the saints and a couple by modern theologians, but it was still encouraging. Over the years they added more titles, including the Catholic editions of the Church fathers, stripped of any anti-Catholic commentary.

But with Verbum, they've taken a huge leap forward. Verbum is still under the Logos umbrella, but it's a specially designed product line and a whole new experience. Recognizing that Catholics study the....

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TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; biblesoftware; logos

1 posted on 11/29/2012 12:44:27 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
The Most Powerful Bible Resource Ever Available

....does no good, if you won't read the Bible itself.

2 posted on 11/29/2012 1:12:02 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: marshmallow

My husband was one of the beta testers of the original Logos programs. He loves them.


3 posted on 11/29/2012 1:14:06 PM PST by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: Alex Murphy

Reality is wasted on the obtuse.


4 posted on 11/29/2012 1:21:49 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: Alex Murphy
....does no good, if you won't read the Bible itself.


5 posted on 11/29/2012 1:24:58 PM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: marshmallow
I use "e-sword" - an exceptional bible download. Very complete and always free!

E-SWORD FREE BIBLE SOFTWARE LINK

6 posted on 11/29/2012 1:26:21 PM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: marshmallow

You can get the basic version for free.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bible!/id336400266?mt=8


7 posted on 11/29/2012 1:27:56 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: marshmallow

Catholic or Protestant, Logos is the most powerful Bible study program out there. I’m actually hoping they will expand the system to include normal college texts as well.

However, this type of software is killing our (myself included) ability to do real, serious scholarship. It makes it too easy to find little factoids just as you need them, and most of us (myself included) do not commit the kind of study time required to make ourselves true scholars of the Word.

Remember the good old days when you had to spend hours and hours in the library, pouring over book after book, taking stacks of notes to bring together a cogent argument? With Logos’ powerful search engine, you can search your entire library (mine includes some 500 volumes or so) in seconds. And, in the old days, how often while you were searching for information to support your argument, you were instead forced to read (skim over) counter-arguments? By learning the other side’s opinion, you have to form a solid argument for your position.

Consequently, the seminary I briefly attended discouraged the use of Logos. It’s great software. Perhaps, too great.

And, to give my answer to a question raised in the original article: Had the Church Fathers had access to this software, they might not have become the scholars that we treasure today.


8 posted on 11/29/2012 1:31:58 PM PST by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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To: wesagain
I use "e-sword" - an exceptional bible download. Very complete and always free!

Me2. Awesome and FREE. Though some of the plugins have to be purchased if you want to. However, 'for sale' plugins are not required, and I have yet to need any of them.

Many Bibles,concordances, commentaries, maps, and etc. A very, very good tool.

e-Sword BUMP!!

9 posted on 11/29/2012 1:36:30 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; Alex Murphy

Physician, heal thyself. The Word of God has no equal, needs no defense and has the Truth which sets us free.


10 posted on 11/29/2012 1:40:45 PM PST by BipolarBob (Never lick a gift horse in the mouth.)
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To: Stegall Tx
Remember the good old days when you had to spend hours and hours in the library, pouring over book after book, taking stacks of notes to bring together a cogent argument?

While I love (and i mean LOVE) the smell of dusty old tomes, and while I do remember the old days fondly, I am going to have to kindly disagree. Going digital has expanded my knowledge exponentially. Probably more because of the ability to copy/paste than any other thing... And searching text is awesome. I can remember some little bit, plug it into the search engine and be brought directly to the quote I want.

And what you say about 'finding things along the way' still happens for me anyway. The search feature often brings up something I wasn't looking for that hits me in the back of the head.

The only thing I find about digital books is that they can too easily be altered compared to good old paper, and one can programatically sway results by omission and redirection... It is subject to the whim of those doing the programming.

That is not an accusation against anyone particularly - but with everything moving toward 'the cloud' and electronic text, the next tyrant (probably a world tyrant) will have a much easier go at propaganda.

11 posted on 11/29/2012 1:51:08 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Alex Murphy
does no good, if you won't read the Bible itself.

Therefore, I strongly encourage you to read the Bible ... all 73 Books of it.

12 posted on 11/29/2012 1:55:53 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
The Word of God has no equal, needs no defense and has the Truth which sets us free.

Therefore, I strongly encourage you to read it ... All of it ... not just the abbreviated version that too many Christians hobble themselves with.

13 posted on 11/29/2012 1:58:29 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: BipolarBob

I intended to direct #13 to your attention ...


14 posted on 11/29/2012 2:00:44 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Stegall Tx
People with limited attention spans to begin with aren’t helped by automated tools that let them substitute apparent depth for required breadth.
15 posted on 11/29/2012 2:05:37 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: marshmallow
If you don't want to download stuff, bible.com is a good online resource.
16 posted on 11/29/2012 2:05:47 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: BipolarBob
It's time for the non-Catholic crowd who pretend they're the only ones who read the Bible to either fish or cut bait. Either add back the portion of the OT Luther threw out or throw out the portions of the NT he didn't believe should be in the Bible.

As it stands now the pretense that non-Catholics are more focused on Scripture than Catholics are is a joke since non-Catholics don't even accept the entire Bible.

So, yes, Physician heal thyself of the hypocrisy you're neck deep in.

17 posted on 11/29/2012 2:42:48 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: marshmallow

Hopefully there is for computers in regards to this new program, one for Apple Mac users as well.


18 posted on 11/29/2012 3:04:06 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: reed13k

bfl


19 posted on 11/29/2012 3:21:49 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Rashputin; BipolarBob
It's time for the non-Catholic crowd who pretend they're the only ones who read the Bible to either fish or cut bait. Either add back the portion of the OT Luther threw out or throw out the portions of the NT he didn't believe should be in the Bible. As it stands now the pretense that non-Catholics are more focused on Scripture than Catholics are is a joke since non-Catholics don't even accept the entire Bible.

There are a number of Catholic FReepers here that read the Bible regularly, and I tip my hat to all of them for doing so. But generally speaking, "Catholics don't read the Bible" is a perception with some basis in fact. Even with the "whole Bible", polls shows that most Catholics don't bother to any of it:

According to a study released in September by Baylor University’s Institute for Studies of Religion, evangelical Protestants are a whopping eight times more likely than Catholics to read the Bible on a weekly basis. Of course, the survey only looked at private Bible reading; it did not take into account the Scripture passages Catholics take in at every Mass. Still, we tip our hats to our separated brothers and sisters in Christ for their zeal for the Word of God.
-- "Get Cracking, Catholics!", National Catholic Register, Publication dated November 18 2006

20 posted on 11/29/2012 3:40:17 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: Rashputin
So, yes, Physician heal thyself of the hypocrisy you're neck deep in.

I must do things your way OR I'm a hypocrite? I see. I don't pretend the non-Catholic crowd are the only ones who read the Bible, so you're wrong there. Whether to follow extra-Biblical edicts and interpretations of your church OR the Plain Truths of the Bible is my choice. My soul is on the line you see. As far as which version of Scripture is canonical, each must choose their own stairway to Heaven. Let God judge and not man what is in their heart.

21 posted on 11/29/2012 3:50:27 PM PST by BipolarBob (Never lick a gift horse in the mouth.)
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To: BipolarBob
The Bible is the Bible as it was at the time of the Apostles. If you claim to routinely read the Bible but only accept a subset of the Bible, you are a hypocrite no matter what I do. It's not a matter of doing what I do, it's a matter of basic honesty.

It's also not a matter of “each must choose”, that's total nonsense as anyone who reads the Scriptures knows. That's as absurd as the Cafeteria Catholic crowd who do what they damn well please and claim they're still faithful Catholics. They may fool themselves but they're not fooling the Jesus Christ nor are those who pretend they can accept a subset of Scripture and have the same relationship to Christ as those who accept all of His Word.

As I said, non-Catholics need to fish or cut bait.

They should either accept the entire Bible or throw out portions of the NT and admit they accept the ‘Luther Subset of the Bible’ because they don't want to accept His Word the same way Eve didn't want to accept His Word.

22 posted on 11/29/2012 4:23:43 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Non-Catholics read a subset of the Bible and ignore the balance of the Scriptures.


23 posted on 11/29/2012 4:30:02 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: BipolarBob
It's always funny to see a poster with both of their feet in their mouth mumbling about the need for an ignore button.

Obviously some such folk not only stuff their feet in their mouth they also clearly never read the rules for the Religion Forum, either.

It figures, that's the very sort of people who follow Eve rather than Christ and make up their own little religion they pretend is Christianity. In reality, though, their little personal religion is nothing other than their worship of their own, Most High and Holy Self.

25 posted on 11/29/2012 4:50:50 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I attended 11 yrs of catholic education. only bible verses i heard was for 3 minutes at mass. still Catholic but am now reading it.


26 posted on 11/29/2012 5:12:59 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Stegall Tx; marshmallow; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleberg
However, this type of software is killing our (myself included) ability to do real, serious scholarship. It makes it too easy to find little factoids just as you need them, and most of us (myself included) do not commit the kind of study time required to make ourselves true scholars of the Word.

Could I make a suggestion: T. David Gordon, Reformed Worship in the Electronic Age. Four lectures on media ecology (with special reference, eventually, to issues of worship). The first lecture and a half or so are background on media ecology. Highly recommended*.

If that's too long, check out his short piece on Education and Electronic Media. Same stuff, smaller bite.

Our tools, in this case our communications media, shape us. It behooves us to be aware of it. Electronic media seem to be uniquely stupifying. Uniquely powerful, but we flail around like cats chasing a laser dot. I'm not sure there are good answers, and I grope for Christian wisdom on the topic.

(I volunteered to do a presentation on "technology and distraction" for men's group at church, little knowing how big the topic was.

A ping to a few other saints that might be interested.)

*Though I think he overstates the scarcity of writing materials in a chirographic culture. He seems to think parchment is all there was to write on, prior to Gutenberg.

27 posted on 11/29/2012 6:08:55 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Rashputin
People with limited attention spans to begin with aren’t helped by automated tools that let them substitute apparent depth for required breadth.

Use of automated tools itself can shrink the attention span.

"Hey look! A Wikipedia article!"

28 posted on 11/29/2012 6:10:41 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: BipolarBob
We need an “Ignore” button.

I remember talk, years back, of a FR forum software upgrade that would allow that. I guess it never materialized.

29 posted on 11/29/2012 6:12:51 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Lee N. Field

I just need to do the ignore function myself. I took his bait and I usually don’t but . . . sometimes the flesh is weak. I’m okay now.


30 posted on 11/29/2012 6:41:03 PM PST by BipolarBob (Never lick a gift horse in the mouth.)
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To: Lee N. Field; Stegall Tx; marshmallow; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleberg

Let’s take this a step further...

Enter any number of churches and what do you see?

Huge screens flashing lyrics to the hymn or praise tune with a serene backdrop of some type. It’s not the same as interacting with book. You look towards the front to see the screen and there are any number of distractions that will take your attention away from the lyrics.


31 posted on 11/29/2012 7:36:45 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock
One reason I simply refuse to watch video clips during a service of worship.

The farther along I get, the more of an iconoclast I'm turning out to be.

It’s not the same as interacting with book.

And, of course, you could argue (and I might) that even "interacting with a book" is not what people would have done through vast stretches of the history of the church. Memorized hymnody, most likely, or a precentor.

Yup, I need to read Old's book on the history of worship again.

32 posted on 11/29/2012 8:30:39 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: roamer_1

Very well stated, and I should have qualified my generalizations. Of course there are some people who are able to do better with digital resources. I should not have generalized so broadly.

Now, the next question is how do I teach my students to be better scholars using these tools? That is quite a question that I have not yet answered. And, since I teach computers for a living, it is one that I should spend a lot of time answering.


33 posted on 11/29/2012 9:16:06 PM PST by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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To: Lee N. Field

Thank you very much for the links. I will definitely add them to my Christmas Break Reading List. And I should move them to the top of the list.


34 posted on 11/29/2012 9:17:53 PM PST by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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To: Lee N. Field
One reason I simply refuse to watch video clips during a service of worship.

Or why, whenever I do one of my frequent moves, I don't join a church that has screens.

35 posted on 11/30/2012 4:24:44 AM PST by Gamecock
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