Posted on 12/10/2012 9:27:44 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
Wow! Then you don't believe in 'eternal life' on FR either, do you?
Reported.
Ignores the basic science of fermentation. Until sulfates were added to grape juice in the 1800’s it would naturally ferment inside of hours.
We use separated brethren because it sounds nicer. We still believe Protestants are material heretics, although perhaps not formal ones, since they don't know any better. Incidentally, we Catholics believe they're all heretics - the Mormons, the Hindus, the Buddhists, etc. We believe we're the one True Church on Earth and if you don't believe in the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, you're a material (although perhaps not formal) heretic. And if you're attending a church that you believe didn't get it right, then what the h-e-double toothpicks are you doing there?
As far as the Inquistion goes, human beings are not perfect and so we make and admit mistakes. But are Jews, Muslims, and Protestants heretics to us Catholics? Well, yeah, we just don't kill or torture them anymore.
Why are they changing? Pretty simple answer—the marketing of deviance by homowood and the old media monopoly is forcing them to change. Furthermore, homosexual power and rights is nothing new. You act as if Sodom and Gomorrah never existed. Homosexuals had all the rights that perverts today address and then some. Same in ancient Rome where, male homosexuals were allowed to buy, sell, use and trade young boys. Same-sex trafficking was in vogue. Some of us simply don’t want to return to what then was defined as civilization.
Perhaps... but 'won' what? These churches are hemorrhaging members. They will surely die on the vine as their congregants leave for greener pastures. And it is no coincidence that the fastest growing churches are the non-denominational spirit-filled variety that have no 'confession', but are only and very insistently Bible concentric.
The smaller churches with a congregational structure tend to be more adept at removing heresies by utter collapse. It is the hierarchical churches, which by their hierarchy, are able to absorb heretical doctrine and survive it for a longer period of time... And the more hierarchical, the more likely one is to find institutionalized forms of those very things, because the hierarchy becomes inured to admitting their error.
And the cost of bureaucracy ALWAYS leads to concession. Gotta get them butts in the pews and get them wallets to open up... And so, a compromise in doctrine becomes inevitable.
I don’t see how the 2 are related, but I honestly have no idea what happens after death.
In this case, the “church”, i.e., “the bride of Christ”, (She) who marries the spirit of the age will become a widow in the next.
Many in the church claim to be following God or say they are simply following the leading of the Holy Spirit in liberalizing church teaching or doctrine. Others in the church say they are adhering to the intent of the Holy Scriptures and are also following and accepting the leading, urging and prodding of the Holy Spirit. Put another way, has God’s Truth been revealed once and for all or is it a progressive revelation, ever moving, ever changing?
One thing is perfectly clear in my mind, God the Holy Ghost is NOT confused. One side is right and the other is wrong. May God have mercy upon them all.
“What bylaw(s) is/are absolutely correct and never need to be changed?”
Well, there are at least ten I could think of...
I don’t.
I don’t.
I do not believe that sin exists.
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How about evil? Do you believe that evil exists?
It’s the same thing.
It'd be interesting to discover what you consider "intoxication."
Maybe it’s because these churches were merely following cultural trends to begin with, and now that the cultural trends have changed, they are simply following the new ones (just as they followed the old ones).
You’ve heard the story of what happened when a German and American Baptist group met each other. The Americans thought it was scandalous that the German women drank beer. The Germans though it was scandalous that the American women wore make up.
Far too many churches in the past have jumped through scriptural hoops to prove their cultural bias is backed up by scripture. But, misusing scripture (even if for a just purpose) always ends up with bad results.
For us humans, the concept of good and evil surely exists, otherwise we couldn’t have laws. I don’t believe it exists after death.
Because most church in the west have become nothing more than social clubs.
I believe in one God,the Father almighty,maker of heaven and earth,of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,the Only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation He came down from heaven, and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried, and rose again on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and his kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified, who has spoken through the prophets. I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen
It appears you are defining drunkenness as anyone who has a drink.
Just saying.
On changing culture; Calif prop 8 as it made it through the courts the original judge ruled it unconstitutional, and one of the reasons was that Biblical/Religious reasons for being against same sex marriage proves the bible was written for the sole purpose of establishing bigotry.
Because it showed disrespect to the body of Christ to have food in your stomach to mix with Christ. It was also very, very important to catch each and every crumb of the Host . . . that's why a patent (I was an altar boy who held the patent) was placed under the chin of each recipient to catch all particles that dropped from the priest's fingers . . . and ONLY A PRIEST COULD HANDLE THE HOST AND THE PARTICLES . . . NO ONE ELSE . . .
Since Vatican II virtually destroyed all respect for the priest, nuns, and the consecrated host, anyone, including the recipient can handle the host. The host could conceivably be dropped on the floor, picked up, and then eaten. Now, either it was a sin with dire consequences to handle the host or it was not.
In any case, the solemnity and respect for all that was sacred to the church has long since disappeared from most suburban, yuppy, trendy, and non-Bible based Christianity.
What say you?
The preachers for hire will preach what the people who are paying them wants to hear, never mind what the Bible says.
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