Posted on 12/12/2012 2:35:42 PM PST by Alex Murphy
Why the nexus between religion and the mob movie? My feeling is that The Godfather cycle is the greatest Catholic movie of all time. The outward show of the faith makes a superb backdrop for some of the climactic scenes – such as when Don Fanucci is murdered while a religious procession is passing through the streets of Little Italy. But religion is not just wallpaper for Francis Ford Coppola. It is at the heart of what the movies are about.
And incredibly, Discovery Channel is going to start a show on the Amish Mafia...
Thereis nothing Catholic about the activities of the crooks in “Godfather”. Nothing Catholic about their unrepentant selfisness.
Well, are the "Jamaican Voodoo Posses" Catholic? How about the Russian Mafia? What about the Japanese Yakuza and the Chinese Triads?
And incredibly, Discovery Channel is going to start a show on the Amish Mafia...
IOW, it's more about crime syndicates emerging from close knit ethnic communities that are outside the mainstream, than any particular religion.
Graham Greene tied mobsters with Catholicism, but Pinkie, his Catholic gangster, was only one of several gangsters in the book. I don't know if any of the others were Catholic. A lot of criminals in Greene's Britain were Catholic, because a lot of the urban lower classes were Catholic, but I doubt the mobsters were as preoccupied with theological questions as Greene or Pinkie were.
I notice that Peter Mullan played the dying mob boss in the television film mentioned at the beginning of the article. I assumed he was Irish. Actually, he's Scots, but one of those Catholic Scots of Irish ancestry, so in a sense, the television show was about a Catholic mobster. I also find out Mullan is a Marxist -- literally and self-professedly.
Dixie Mafia? Not to mention the black gangs. Most of them aren't Catholic or Jewish.
This is playing up Italian (or lesser extent Irish) stereotypes.
For good reason. In a criminal enterprise, everything depends on your knowing everything about the people you need to trust, so you don't recruit a police snitch. The way to do that is to recruit people who you have known all their lives, and whose every move has been the subject of gossip as they were growing up.
Then you make them shut up, and have everybody who knows them shut up about them to outsiders.
For good reason. In a criminal enterprise, everything depends on your knowing everything about the people you need to trust, so you don't recruit a police snitch. The way to do that is to recruit people who you have known all their lives, and whose every move has been the subject of gossip as they were growing up.
Then you make them shut up, and have everybody who knows them shut up about them to outsiders.
And the 9/11/2001 event is a muslim crime but don’t say that out loud or you will be branded an islamophobe.
I was in Chicago on a visit and saw Al Capone’s grave. The inscription below his name reads “My Jesus Mercy” - wonder how much mercy he expected.
In all fairness, if The Godfather is the greatest Catholic movie, it is *only* because of an absence of other great Catholic-centric movies.
However, much of the problem denotes from the history of Italy and the Vatican. The unification of Italy began with the downfall of Napoleon Bonaparte in 1815, and didn’t end until 1870.
Then just about 40 years later, Italy was decimated in a dozen or so horrific battles with Austria-Hungary and Germany, in the Alpine region of the Isonzo River. 650,000 military dead and about 1 million wounded. It had not come close to recovery by World War II.
Yet before, during, and after the war was the peak of Italian migration to the United States. From 1910 to 1920 about 5.3 million Italians came to the US, though about a third eventually returned to Italy.
Importantly, Catholic Italians were greeted by Catholic Germans and Irish, who had been coming to the US since about 1850, so had established a “Catholic infrastructure” in the US that the Italians could greatly expand upon.
In any event, this means that the most profound Catholicism in the movies needs to be based in that period, in the immigrant community, because there you will find not just religious Catholicism but cultural Catholicism as well, integrated throughout the community.
Clippety clop, right past the toll booths without paying, after the bang, bang, bang.
Or because the good father isn't actually looking for such movies. Maybe among Hollywood films that had spectacular success in the secular world it could be the greatest Catholic movie, but if you look at all kinds of films from all over the world it probably isn't.
It’s not really religion that makes for successful organized crime. In fact it must be expressly denounced by those involved. What it requires are insular communities wherein the criminals trust eachother because they grew up together and the neighborhood has greater allegiance to their kind than the cops. This usually results from recent immigrant groups of low economic standing and easily identifiable ethnic or racial traits cramped in a tight geographical area.
Religion plays a part in binding groups together. Obviously it is a major component of ethnicity. It also works against lives of crime, so there’s a sorta wash, there.
The article doesn’t hide the fact that it is highlighting Catholics because of the movies. And it happens to be true that no organized grime syndicate in the US was ever more successful than the Italians. No one else owned an entire big city like they did Chicago. No one else took over anything so big as the New York waterfront, the New York textile industry, the teamsters union, etc. Jews come along for the ride because the hung with Italians and because they had colorful characters like Bugsy Siegel.
This arrival is idiotic for extrapolating from it that no non-Catholic gangsters ever mattered. Gave they ever wondered what it is rap music is always talking about? Those people aren’t Italians or Jews.
The article doesn’t hide the fact that it is highlighting Catholics because of the movies. And it happens to be true that no organized grime syndicate in the US was ever more successful than the Italians. No one else owned an entire big city like they did Chicago. No one else took over anything so big as the New York waterfront, the New York textile industry, the teamsters union, etc. Jews come along for the ride because the hung with Italians and because they had colorful characters like Bugsy Siegel.
This article is idiotic for extrapolating from it that no non-Catholic gangsters ever mattered. Gave they ever wondered what it is rap music is always talking about? Those people aren’t Italians or Jews.
I feel I should point out that the mafia originated as a Sicilians only club. Not that the very same problems you mentioned didn’t drift over from the boot. Just thought it should be made clear it wasn’t until later that Italians proper were allowed in.
Meyer Lansky was the prime architect of the Jewish Mafia.The area around Hallandale and Gulfstream Park Race Track in Florida is still referenced by some local residents there as "Lanskyland." They said that by 1980, Lansky's worth may have grown to $400 million (he died in '83).
The Detroit Purple Gang during Prohibition times was Jewish mobster-run. Some estimates put their death totals beyond 500.
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