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To: MacNaughton

Nashoda house, of Wisconsin, and Trinity of Ambridge, PA, were both affiliated with the Episcopal Church, and are no longer—as both are faithful orthodox seminaries.

The Anglican Church of North America (ACNA) kind of an unbrella group for churches that have left—or been established separately—since 1999 under foreign Anglican bishops-—claims to have about 100,000 members. Through the (Rwandan, Nigerian, Southern Cone, etc.) bishops most ACNA clergy have oversight and communion with Canterbury—hence are “authentic” Anglicans. ACNA was set up to eventually be the orthodox replacement of TEC...

http://www.anglicanchurch.net/

TEC claims 2+ million, but in reality has less than 700,000. I believe the AVERAGE age of TEC members is over 60....(and keeps going up, even as membership shrinks...). Both in money and membership—TEC is crashing. Even while the “new” Anglicans, ACNA churchs, are growing, alive and young...

Their pursuit of lawsuits ironically—may actually make TEC’s collapse faster, in that they are burning through money for lawyers—and then when/if they win, what do you do with empty church buildings—esp. during a real estate recession? The litigiousness also makes for very poor PR, even amoung liberals who would agree with them on homosexuality and other issues.

The reaping what you sow analogy is correct here. Some day—in the not too distant future—TEC as currently constituted will be no more.


18 posted on 12/15/2012 8:45:20 AM PST by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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18 Nashoda house, of Wisconsin, and Trinity of Ambridge, PA, were both affiliated with the Episcopal Church, and are no longer—as both are faithful orthodox seminaries.

Thank you for this clarification. I wasn't aware that Trinity had seperated from TEC (~2007). I knew Nashoda House had because I see its logo on David Virtue's web-site. So, TEC is down to 9 seminaries.

TEC claims 2+ million, but in reality has less than 700,000. I believe the AVERAGE age of TEC members is over 60....(and keeps going up, even as membership shrinks...). Both in money and membership—TEC is crashing. ...

Agreed.

... Even while the “new” Anglicans, ACNA churchs, are growing, alive and young...

I pray you are right, but I am unsure at this point. It is still early in the Anglican Realignment. I suppose the proper way to view this is that God's hand is still guiding this remnant of Anglicans who choose to "hold onto the faith once delivered."

Their pursuit of lawsuits ironically—may actually make TEC’s collapse faster, in that they are burning through money for lawyers—and then when/if they win, what do you do with empty church buildings—esp. during a real estate recession? The litigiousness also makes for very poor PR, even amoung liberals who would agree with them on homosexuality and other issues.

It is interesting to keep up with these matters on David Virtue's web-site, http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/index.php
It does sound like some within TEC are beginning to realize P-B Schori's crusade against the rebel orthodox will result in a pyrhhic victory.

The reaping what you sow analogy is correct here. Some day—in the not too distant future—TEC as currently constituted will be no more.

Agreed. I have thought for some time that at some point down the pike, all of these small, revisionist, Protestant denominations, i.e., the 4 "mainline" Protestant denominations in the U.S. - UCC, TEC, ELCA, PCUSA, and others (perhaps an element from within the UMC), will choose to merge around the theme of "social justice", i.e., full acceptance/inclusion of homosexuality within the church. After all, schisms and mergers are a constant theme within the U.S.

With POTUS BHO pushing his anti-Christian agenda, and making headway on it, it does make me wonder if we are going to see massive re-emergence of underground/home churches like we hear about in Red China. Should BHO be successful in stripping the tax exempt status from churches, it may come to that. Well, history shows us that Christianity thrived in secret during the darkest days of persecution under the Roman Empire. Mark Twain supposedly said that, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

19 posted on 12/17/2012 10:16:44 AM PST by MacNaughton
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