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What if Mary had known about abortion?
Renew America ^ | 12-15-17 | Mark H Creech

Posted on 12/15/2012 5:20:33 AM PST by ReformationFan

Recently I saw a t-shirt that said, "The Virgin Mary was an Unwed Teenage Mother." That's true and it reminded me of an interruption that took place at a Quebec pro-life conference back in October of this year. LifeSiteNews.com says about a dozen pro-choice protestors descended upon an evangelical church where the conference was being held, chanting blasphemous slogans, one of which was a French pro-abortion sing-song against the Virgin Mary: Ah si Marie avait connu l'avortment, on n'aurait pas tous ces emmerdement.s. Translated this means, "Oh, If Mary had known about abortion, we wouldn't have to deal with all this nonsense." [1]

Mary was surely a remarkable young woman. When the angel Gabriel came to her and announced she would bear the Messiah as a virgin, Mary embraced the will of God knowing the sacrifices it would likely bring (Luke 1:26-38). The plans for her marriage would be scuttled. For when the news of her pregnancy reached her espoused husband, Joseph, he would seek to put her away privately. It was only after Joseph was confronted by an angel himself that he decided to follow through on the marriage (Matthew 1:18-20). Her pregnancy would also cast a shadow of scandal over her and her family. This was seen in a skirmish Jesus had with the religious leaders of his day, when he referred to them as children of the devil. They in turn viciously shot-back at Him with the intimation that He was a bastard child, born of fornication (John 8:41).

By today's standards in a culture of death, this teenage mother would have been urged to abort her child. But what if it had been possible for Mary to abort Jesus?

In his book, What if Jesus Had Never Been Born, the late Dr. D. James Kennedy writes

(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.com ...


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; History; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: abortion; djameskennedy; jesus; markhcreech; mary; pharmakeia; prolife
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1 posted on 12/15/2012 5:20:43 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
"The Virgin Mary was an Unwed Teenage Mother."
You have to really strain your neck to look past Mother of God.
2 posted on 12/15/2012 5:28:16 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: ReformationFan

I’ve always said I’m waiting for the day the Left tries to delegitimize Christianity by making the point Mary didn’t have a choice in the matter. (If they haven’t already.)


3 posted on 12/15/2012 5:28:43 AM PST by CommieCutter
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To: ReformationFan

“Ah si Marie avait connu l’avortment, on n’aurait pas tous ces emmerdement.s.”

Unnecessary roughness. Stupid, immature and uncultured.


4 posted on 12/15/2012 5:30:13 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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Prolife CHRISTmas bump

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(who yesterday spotted a bumper sticker saying "Pro-Life" in the Coca-Cola font)

5 posted on 12/15/2012 5:34:24 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: ReformationFan; zot; SeekAndFind

There were methods of abortion known at that time, look at the Roman culture and history. And no doubt those methods were known among the Jews of Israel. It is that Mary believed God’s message to her that has been a blessing to all of us today. For faithful Jews, they then as today reject abortion.

The person who made the quote was only wanting to have his or her on desire to destroy life to be accepted without question.

The world is still a difficult and evil place to exist, even after 2000 years of the spreading of Jesus’ message; as a historian, I can’t really imagine how much worse it would be without that message and of His sacrifice for our salvation.


6 posted on 12/15/2012 5:34:44 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: ReformationFan

..and the point about life - this is an argument that stands with strength - the difference between Christian and Moslem - in that, Christ, the Son of God brought to those that know him and love him - and accept Him - he gives life - success - and well being...compared to the counter. Evil transgresses throughout daily life - but having a shield that deflects and knocks it away gives us the time to do good for humanity...where we are not tearing down society, destroying, and targeting those that may not have our religious beliefs and condemning them to death...

This article and the beginning struggle that the Holy Mother had to endure proves why Christianity is the savior of mankind and why nations that prescribe to Christian beliefs in their public institutions and daily life succeed.


7 posted on 12/15/2012 5:40:01 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: ReformationFan

Good article and I agree with his main points. However, I always cringe a little when someone, especially a fellow Christian, refers to Mary as “an un-wed mother”. Though I understand the facility of applying this term to Mary to try to draw a sympathetic connection to un-wed mothers in our modern society, this isn’t the case at all.
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“In the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a town of Galilee called Nazareth, to a virgin betrothed to a man named Joseph, of the house of David, and the virgin’s name was Mary.” (Luke 1:26-27). In considering the marriage of Joseph and Mary it is important to grasp from the outset the Jewish conception of the betrothal as distinguished from the marriage ceremony itself. A betrothal among the Jews was different from an engagement as we know it. The espousals were a solemn contract concerning a marriage; they were made before witnesses, and had for object the union of the parties. According to Jewish legislation, the betrothal established between the bride and the groom a legal bond much closer than with us. The betrothed woman was considered as the wife of the man from the moment of the betrothal (Deuteronomy 22:23-24), although she had not yet entered the habitation of her husband. The husband could not repudiate his betrothed without giving her a bill of divorce; in case of fornication with another man the betrothed was treated as an adulteress.

The engaged couple were given, by anticipation, the titles of husband and wife. St. Matthew likewise assigns these titles to Mary and Joseph even before the marriage ceremony had taken place: “Whereupon Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing publicly to expose her, was minded to put her away privately. But while he thought on these things, behold the Angel of the Lord appeared to him in his sleep, saying: Joseph, son of David, fear not to take unto thee (by marriage ceremony) Mary thy wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost” (Matthew 1:19-20).
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The relationship between Joseph and Mary was closer to being a marriage than, say, our modern concept of engagement. Thus she could not be considered “un-wed”.


8 posted on 12/15/2012 5:45:28 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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The relationship between Joseph and Mary was closer to being a marriage than, say, our modern concept of engagement. Thus she could not be considered “un-wed”.

Is there any reason to believe the actual wedding didn't occur between the conception and birth of Jesus?

9 posted on 12/15/2012 5:55:21 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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To: ReformationFan

the virgin mary was married to joseph at the time of his birth, so she was NOT an unmarried teenage mother.


10 posted on 12/15/2012 6:02:45 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Is there any reason to believe the actual wedding didn't occur between the conception and birth of Jesus?

We aren't told; only that it apparently hadn't occurred up until the time of the angel's announcement to Joseph.

11 posted on 12/15/2012 6:06:58 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: ReformationFan

You really have to be a dork to even think of a scenario such as this.

God willed the coming of Christ, end of discussion.


12 posted on 12/15/2012 6:07:19 AM PST by Venturer
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Mary didn’t think it was punishment being immaculated with a heavenly baby. Plus there were no Planned Messiah-hood centers at that time. (’


13 posted on 12/15/2012 6:36:07 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: ReformationFan
"The Virgin Mary was an Unwed Teenage Mother."

The assertion is false on it's face !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
14 posted on 12/15/2012 8:15:31 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Mother of God

G-d does not have a mother or he is not god!
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
15 posted on 12/15/2012 8:17:44 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Mary: Mother of God
16 posted on 12/15/2012 8:29:01 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Mary: Mother of God

The creator of the universe does not have a mother.

YHvH: the G-d of Abraham, Isaac & Israel does not have a mother.

Seek YHvH in His WORD.

Shabbat Shalom !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
17 posted on 12/15/2012 8:48:59 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
G-d does not have a mother or he(sic) is not god!(sic)

The creator of the universe does not have a mother.(sic)

You continue to omit the caveat "in my unlearned opinion."

God incarnate does indeed have a human mother just as Scripture teaches.

"And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" Luke 1:43

18 posted on 12/15/2012 10:14:32 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: ReformationFan
From The Didache

Chapter 2. The Second Commandment: Gross Sin Forbidden

And the second commandment of the Teaching; You shall not commit murder, you shall not commit adultery, Exodus 20:13-14 you shall not commit pederasty, you shall not commit fornication, you shall not steal, Exodus 20:15 you shall not practice magic, you shall not practice witchcraft, you shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is begotten. You shall not covet the things of your neighbour, Exodus 20:17 you shall not forswear yourself, Matthew 5:34 you shall not bear false witness, Exodus 20:16 you shall not speak evil, you shall bear no grudge. You shall not be double-minded nor double-tongued; for to be double-tongued is a snare of death. Your speech shall not be false, nor empty, but fulfilled by deed. You shall not be covetous, nor rapacious, nor a hypocrite, nor evil disposed, nor haughty. You shall not take evil counsel against your neighbour. You shall not hate any man; but some you shall reprove, and concerning some you shall pray, and some you shall love more than your own life.

19 posted on 12/15/2012 10:23:52 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Please distinguish between the mishkan or tabernacle and the shekinah within.

Miriam was instrumental in the creation of the mishkan.

Absolutely not in the creation of the shekinah !

Have a wonderful Sabbath of YHvH !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

20 posted on 12/15/2012 10:30:11 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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