Anglican Head Rowan Williams Backs Gun Control in US

The Christian Post ^ | 12-23-12 | Anugrah Kumar

[ReformationFan]

The outgoing Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, talked about the recent Sandy Hook shooting in Newtown, Conn., discounting the argument put forward, including by many Christians in the United States, that "it's not guns that kill, it's people."

"People use guns. But in a sense guns use people, too. When we have the technology for violence easily to hand, our choices are skewed and we are more vulnerable to being manipulated into violent action," the leader of the world's 80 million-strong Anglican Communion said, delivering BBC Radio 4's "Thought for the Day" on Saturday.

[ReformationFan]

After the terrific job he did with the Church of England, of course I will follow Rowan Williams' brilliance on the issue of gun control/sarc

[driftdiver]

And I support the public tar and feathering of the outgoing Archbishop of Canterbury.

[JRandomFreeper]

When we have the technology for violence easily to hand,

Because fertilizer and fuel oil can't kill more people much easier.

He ain't no Jesuit.

/johnny

[Third Person]

Stuff it, Redcoat.

[atomic conspiracy]

People in the UK would pay no more attention to the CoE than Americans do if it weren’t for complaining about the costs. The arch-shaman needs to remind people he is still there. He won’t accept that his chief job is to serve as a mascot and period character at tourist attractions like Canterbury Cathedral, something like the Mickey people at Disney World.

[ReformationFan]

Perhaps he and his fellow redcoat Piers Morgan can form their own country somewhere?

[Enten]

This is the fool that also advocates accommodating sharia law. What has happened to the UK?

[Boogieman]

Well, I back Rowan Williams control in England, so there :P

[MasterGunner01]

Perhaps the Church of England should consider burning the heretic witch, Dr. Rowan Martin, at the stake like was done in the old days? Or, better, turn him over to the Muslims for Sharia “justice” that’s all the rage in the UK judicial and elite circles these days. Just a thought.

[Argus]

Come and take them, Limey.

[Little Ray]

Hey, there is reason we shot their sorry bums, enlisted all the help we could get, and kicked them out of the Colonies.

[Lee N. Field]

“shove it, brit.”

[Liberty Valance]

LOL - *ouch*

[youngidiot]

Sorry a**holes, we have the 2nd amendment and no ex post facto laws. The hundreds of millions of guns we already have aren’t going anywhere - mine certainly aren’t.

[Eastbound]

" . . . being manipulated into violent action, . . ."

Arguable. Many would say, including myself, that bullets are quicker, cleaner, and more humane than any other kind of violence designed to separate the body from the soul.

Certainly a helluva less traumatic and less violent than the bathing of the blood and guts of the victims the crazies bathe themselves in the during the execuation of their ritualistic mayhem while muttering some stupid mantra to their dog that removes their consciences from the act they are performing.

[plain talk]

"People use guns. But in a sense guns use people, too. When we have the technology for violence easily to hand, our choices are skewed and we are more vulnerable to being manipulated into violent action,"

So guns can manipulate people? As a side note I've been to Canterbury and heard a Williams' Christmas Day sermon. Jesus was mentioned maybe once. The whole sermon was man-centered liberal feel-good nonsense. I was astounded how on Christmas Day he could avoid the name Jesus.

[ReformationFan]

“I was astounded how on Christmas Day he could avoid the name Jesus.”

It’s amazing how many liberals(including liberal clergymen) do.

[Cicero]

Probably he would think that the guns should be condemned to Hell—if he believed in Hell.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

I wonder what foreign entity or person Adam Lanza bent over backwards to protect by destroying (allegedly) his computer hard drive? 9/11 was a mission perpetrated by American residents and masterminded by a man in Afghanistan. Who and where is Sandy Hook's mastermind? Hmmm?

Very odd that it turns out Nancy Lanza had no connection whatsoever to Sandy Hook elementary school, WE WERE REPEATED TOLD BY MULTIPLE NEWS OUTLETS that Adam killed those children 'probably because his mother loved those kids more than him'.

But..

"Despite earlier reports that Nancy Lanza, mother of shooter Adam Lanza, was a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary School, new details are emerging that suggest otherwise. CNN, The Wall Street Journal, and several other news outlets are reporting now that Nancy Lanza may not have had any connection to the school where the shootings took place. Janet Vollmer, a kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary, told CNN that Lanza was not a teacher there. Lillian Bittman, a former school board official, said “no one has heard” of Lanza and that “teachers don’t know her.” Talking Points Memo reports that Lanza is not listed on the Newton School District Website. TPM also notes the origin of the misinformation may have been an AP story which quoted law enforcement officials “speaking on the condition of anonymity” about Lanza’s possible connection to school."

Question: What type of massacre would result in maximum outrage by the populus against guns and gun owners and even convert some gun owners into being anti-gun?
Answer: A mass murder of young children in a school classroom.

Could the motive of the Sandy Hook killings been to evoke maximum outrage against guns and gun owners for the purpose of GOVERNMENT JUSTIFICATION FOR a gun ban in the United States? Could this massacre have had nothing to do with 'revenge' or anger? Why would the killer resort to going to a school and killing children because he was "angry about being committed to a mental hospital?"

And here's more food for thought, regarding this incident:

http://www.sott.net/article/254873-Sandy-Hook-massacre-Official-story-spins-out-of-control

[WashingtonSource]

Dear Rowan. Please shut up and retire — and then go off and die somewhere quickly. What a loser!

[Longbow1969]

Far too many of these supposedly Christian leaders are absolute idiots when it comes to stuff like gun control and social justice issues. All too often they align themselves with the secular socialist left...and then wonder why Western Christianity is under constant attack (by the very same liberal politicians they keep supporting).

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Again, let me suggest that on Williams departure from his current job, he return to his first love, moving to Stonehenge and running around naked in the local forest with flowers in his hair. In winter he can don a body suit made from the pelts of a hundred grey squirrels, subsisting on rabbit pasties and rainwater.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

And if England had passed tougher gun control laws Thomas Becket would not have been killed!

Oh, wait!

[Calvin Locke]

What has happened to the UK?

I was just watching some Youtube clips. Woody Allen had a tête-à-tête as it were, with WF Buckley circa late 1967/early 1968.

Buckley made a reference comparing liberalism and LBJ to a some [forgotten] woman that went something like "she helped bring socialism to Britain after WWII, then prompted abandoned the resulting ashes for France."

So-called "elitism" at work.

[ReformationFan]

“Socialism is workable only in heaven where it isn’t needed, and in hell where they’ve got it”.-Sir Winston Churchill

[RetiredTexasVet]

If I’m not mistaken, he is also a “queer” friendly sponsor within the church.

[lurk]

So we’re obligated to respond to the verbal chirping of effeminate human figurines overseas now?

[elteemike]

What is it about these religious/scientist/academic/showbiz types thinking that a modicum of talent and moderate expertise in their one little narrow discipline automatically carries over to any other subject matter they’d care to tackle...?

And that we, the great unwashed, hang with bated breath upon every golden word that issues forth from their actually ignoramus cake holes...?

Example: The recent “Demand A Plan” on YouTube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OayyLQi6vE&sns=em

Pampered “celebrities” who, each and every one, have and do presently make a lavish living acting in or producing the most violent, blood and gore, slash and shoot-’em-up “films” imaginable, and then have the gall to demand in turn that we produce a plan to end violence...

And imagine further, the “plan” these hypocrits “demand” mostly involves all of the rest of us disarming...

While they will continue as before, living secure in their gated communities, and traveling with an entourage of armed bodyguards...

The rest of us should demand that these “celebrities” and “experts” all STFU!

[Cronos]

When we have the technology for violence easily to hand, our choices are skewed and we are more vulnerable to being manipulated into violent action,

Rowan makes two mistakes:

1. This then outlaws the "technology" of martial arts and boxing and also not only knives but even sticks or stones or bricks. It also means that a big guy like me should be "outlawed" too
   
2. In a no-guns society, the ones with the guns are criminals. in a free-gun society, the criminals will be wary because good people can fire back...