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Southern Baptist Convention lists churches with Women Pastors (vanity)
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Posted on 12/31/2012 9:02:53 AM PST by wonkowasright

It appears that there are multiple churches currently affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention located Virginia that are either led by women pastors, or co-led by women pastors. Is the SBC now departing from its formal opposition and starting to quietly tolerate female pastors to avoid a decline in the number of congregations/members ? Virginias BGAV is unique in how it lists who leads the various churches so its not clear if this is unique to Virginia or is a growing phenomena in other states.

My understanding of Virginia Baptist is that there are two statewide bodies both affiliated with the national Southern Baptist Convention, Baptist General Association of Virginia (BGAV) and Southern Baptist Conservatives of Virginia (SBCV). These churches and who leads them came from the information on the BGAV and SBC websites as of a couple weeks ago. As with all data it may be changed after that point, may have been inaccurate at the time the list was compiled etc. There may very well be errors in this data. That said the great majority of these are currently listed as churches affiliated with the SBC on the SBC's own official website, as well as on the BGAV website. These are likely being counted in the "total congregations" and "members" data that the SBC is publishing.

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Rev. Jane T. Lyon, Antioch Baptist Church, Red Oak, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=08001
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=8101-23964


(?) Rev. Kelly A. Lane, Bridgewater Baptist Church, Bridgewater, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=04001
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=2456-22812


Senior Pastor : Rev. Donna H. Britt, Calvary Baptist, Roanoke, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=38007
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=9237-24016


Co Pastor Rev. Angeline Gullins, Calvary Revival Church, Richmond, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=45065
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=2011022015


Multi-Site Campus Pastor: Mrs. Donna Brooks, Coastal Community Church-Corporate Landing Campus, Virginia Beach, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=2808401
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=0000-23452


Senior Pastor : Rev. Lisa Hawkins, Convergence: A Creative Community of Faith, Alexandria, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=23021
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=6260-22302


Co-Pastor: Rev. Colleen Swingle-Titus, Crozet Baptist Church, Crozet, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=02012
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=5171-22932


(?)Rev. Jody Breeding, Garden Baptist Church, Oakwood, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=26011
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=3233-24631


Senior Pastor: Dr. Elizabeth P. Mills, Grace Baptist Church, Richmond, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=37015
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=0134-23221


Senior Pastor: Rev. Pamela Chisholm, Greenbrier Baptist Church, Arlington, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=23028
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=6688-22204


Senior Pastor: Rev. Kathy Shereda, High Hills Baptist Church, Jarratt, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=30019
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=8688-23867


Senior Pastor: Rev. Kathy P. Nicholls, Inglewood Baptist Church, Lynchburg, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=20009
[NO SBC LINK LISTED]


Senior Pastor: Dr. Rebecca Gunter, Lakesie Baptist Church, Henrico, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=37019
[NO SBC LINK LISTED]


Senior Pastor: Rev. Stacy Vanover, Maple Grove Baptist Church, Coeburn, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=44009
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=557-24230


Senior Pastor: Rev. Jillian M. Andrzejewki, Mooreland Baptist Church, North Garden, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=02024
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=3882-22959


http://mbc.avenue.org/pastor.htm [Mooreland Baptist Church] website states
During Jillian's time at Chamberlayne Baptist Church she experienced all parts of ministry: administration, pastoral care, preaching, leading meetings, and planning worship. She has also taught children's classes and Adult Bible study. She has seen Chamberlayne undergo a visioning process. She also did her internship for seminary there.
She was ordained at Chamberlayne in May of 2010.[NOTE: Chamberlayne isn't in this list but is an SBC church so there are more than just the churches in this list]


Co-Pastor: Rev. Lois Paige, New Canaan Baptist Church, Richmond, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=37087
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=2004051566


Co-Pastor: Jessica Williams, Nomini Baptist Church, Montross, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=36024
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=8429-22520


Multi-Site Campus Pastor: Rev. Angie Frame, Powhatan Community Church - Virtual Campus, Powhatan, VA [Church Website says "Online Campus Pastor"
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=2104802
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=2007089205


Interim Pastor: Rev. Jane Cicione, Preddys Creek Baptist Church, Barboursville, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=WC029
[NO SBC LINK]


Senior Pastor: Rev. Jennifer J. Kelly, Rapidan Baptist Church, Wolftown, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=40028
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=4709-22748


Senior Pastor: Rev. Dr. Sabrina St. Clair, Rhema Christian  Ministry, Fredricksburg, VA [appears to mix other data, such as a location with the pastors name]
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=13078
[NO SBC LINK]


Senior Pastor: Rev. Nancy S. McDaniel, Rhoadesville Baptist Church, Rhoadsville, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=14030
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=5364-22542


Multi-Site Campus Pastor: Mrs. Sheri Crawford, Spring Hill Baptist Church, Ruckersville, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=203401
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=7473-22968


Senior Pastor: Rev. Mary Ann Mann, Tomahawk Baptist Church, Midlothian, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=21033
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=2044-23112


Senior Pastor: Rev. Nancy R. Poti, Trinity Church, Baptist,  Richmond, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=37074
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=4936-23113


Senior Pastor: Rev. Carol H. Johnston, Troutville Baptist Church, Troutville, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=38061
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=1026-24175
According to what appears to be the local church website, Carol Johnston is senior pastor at Troutville Baptist Church. She was called here first as an interim pastor in September 1999, and then as senior pastor in February 2000. Before arriving at Troutville, Carol served at Grandin Court Baptist for 20 years.


Senior Pastor: Rev. Anna P. Miller, Westhunt Baptist Church, Richmond, VA
http://www.vbmb.org/apps/Churches/maps.cfm?ChurchID=10051
http://www.sbc.net/churchsearch/church.asp?ID=2983-23294


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Can the Pajama's Media help me understand the above ? Is it limited to Virginia ? I was involved in the baptist world for many years, but have lost touch with much of it now. It looks to me like, in liberal areas ( metro areas ) the baptists are softening on the idea of women pastors. Though I'm sure in the majority of areas this is not the case.

A few years ago First Baptist of Decatur reportedly was expelled from the SBC when it called Julie Pennington-Russell as its lead pastor. However according to the Texas Baptists ( formerly BGCT ) website, though not currently listed anymore, it is my understanding that Mrs. Russell was allegedly a lead speaker at a recent Women in Ministry conference. The Texas Baptists website is promoting the idea of women pastors and appears to be suggesting the should be ordained. This seems to indicate that in the liberal areas of Texas a move toward a more progressive approach is being made as well.



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1 posted on 12/31/2012 9:02:58 AM PST by wonkowasright
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To: wonkowasright

Some of those churches you listed are actually members of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship and not the SBC (although most probably still support SBC missions).


2 posted on 12/31/2012 9:10:25 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: wonkowasright

More info...

http://www.thefellowship.info/About-Us


3 posted on 12/31/2012 9:13:47 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: wonkowasright

This is so sad in my opinion. The Bible, throughout, designates men.


4 posted on 12/31/2012 9:14:31 AM PST by Salvation (("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26))
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To: gov_bean_ counter

That may very well be true that they are members of both. Indeed Texas Baptists at the state level are jointly affiliated with CBF and SBC. The silence of the SBC about Texas Baptists promoting women pastors on their official website is, to me, a surprising thing.

The thing I’m trying to find out is, and it does appear that way, has the SBC stopped removing churches from its membership lists just because they are calling female pastors.


5 posted on 12/31/2012 9:15:25 AM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: wonkowasright

My Texas Baptist church is not affiliated with CBF.


6 posted on 12/31/2012 9:20:38 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: wonkowasright

Wish I could help. Mrs. GBC any I currently have a membership with a CBF church in Alabama and I don’t have any past with the SBC and do not plan on having a future with them.


7 posted on 12/31/2012 9:22:06 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: wonkowasright

The SBC is bottom up. For a church to be removed, someone would have to make a complaint about the church, and a vote taken at the conference.


8 posted on 12/31/2012 9:23:49 AM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
My Texas Baptist church is not affiliated with CBF.

I don't doubt what you say at all. At your local church level and I suspect most of the texas baptist churches are not affiliated with CBF. However at the state association level the CBF is currently listed as a Partner right next to the Southern Baptist Convention on the official website in the links at the bottom.

Indeed the money flowing through the
BCGT ( Texas Baptists ) is routed to either the SBC or CBF now .

The upshot being that the state level has quietly taken a far more liberal stance than most of its member churches.
9 posted on 12/31/2012 9:32:56 AM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: wonkowasright; Resolute Conservative
The second link I posted was hosed up : http://texasbaptists.org/give/cooperative-program/2/
10 posted on 12/31/2012 9:34:42 AM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: Salvation
Check it again. Women were the first ones chosen by Jesus to preach the good news:

Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it. His countenance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow. And the guards shook for fear of him, and became like dead men.

But the angel answered and said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. He is not here; for He is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly and tell His disciples that He is risen from the dead, and indeed He is going before you into Galilee; there you will see Him. Behold, I have told you.”

So they went out quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to bring His disciples word.

And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, “Rejoice!” So they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him. Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid. Go and tell My brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see Me.”
Matthew 28:1-10

It was also the Samaritan woman at the well whom He revealed Himself as 'Messiah'. Jesus did more for equality for women than anyone else ever has.

11 posted on 12/31/2012 9:46:18 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Hoodat

But they were NOT the prebyters. Read Paul to Timothy, please.


12 posted on 12/31/2012 9:56:51 AM PST by Salvation (("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26))
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To: Hoodat

Giving out the Gospel is the job for all believers in our public ministry. The office of Elder/Pastor and Deacon is male only: and that is doctrine from Scripture in its precise context.


13 posted on 12/31/2012 9:58:39 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Hoodat; Salvation
The given passage does not give a commission to preach.

It is an instruction to give a specific piece of news to the disciples.

Jesus did more for equality for women than anyone else ever has.

That was not even a concept at the time.

Nor is it a goal of the Gospel.

Couching your exegesis in post-French Revolution terminology does not do it any favors.

The implied notion here is that being a pastor or a preacher is a "human right" instead of a calling.

Also implied is the notion that men and women are interchangeable equivalents, as opposed to the biblical concept that all human beings share in a divinely-bestowed dignity, each with their own responsibilities.

14 posted on 12/31/2012 9:59:43 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wonkowasright

What I find interesting about this is the fact that these women deliberately violate this Biblical teaching:

“I allow no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to remain in quietness and keep silence [in religious assemblies].” 1 Timothy 2:12(Amplified Bible translation)

yet at the same time these women believe it is sinful to baptize an infant which the Bible itself never forbids.


15 posted on 12/31/2012 10:01:19 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: wideawake

As far as I know all the apostles were men. LOL! Christ called men! How about that?


16 posted on 12/31/2012 10:02:01 AM PST by Salvation (("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26))
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To: wonkowasright

Churches in the SBC are independent. They are not tied to a set of rules to be maintained. Our local county Baptist association kicked out a church that elected women deacons. While an SBC church, they do not tell us who we can hire as pastor. That said, our church would not hire a female pastor. We stick to the biblical rules.


17 posted on 12/31/2012 10:05:49 AM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: Salvation
Indeed, and women as pastors is a deal breaker and most "churches" that allow that also belong to the extremely liberal National Council of Churches.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church •

18 posted on 12/31/2012 10:08:00 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Salvavida

Great tagline!

Amen, amen, amen!


19 posted on 12/31/2012 10:13:19 AM PST by Salvation (("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26))
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
Orthodox Church in America
Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America”

Really? I thought the Eastern Orthodox Church was pretty strict about limiting their priesthood to men only.


20 posted on 12/31/2012 10:14:17 AM PST by ReformationFan
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