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“Excommunication, I’m still glowing”
Splendor of Truth ^ | January 2, 2013

Posted on 01/03/2013 1:20:24 PM PST by NYer

Marc Barnes says of this women’s ordination video “Ordain a lady: that “This might be the greatest video ever to happen to the Catholic Church.” and goes on in post Why The Catholic Priesthood Is Composed of Dudes

Ordain A Lady YouTube Video

This is certainly the funniest thing I have seen in a while and one of the best defenses for the Church’s teaching. I would have been hard-pressed to make a better parody and the words are genius. Well at least it would be a genius video if it wasn’t real.

Though one thing that really gets my ire up. I am so tired of women’s ordination proponents using Saint Thérèse of Lisieux as if she was also a proponent of women’s ordination. This is pure calumny.

“If only I were a priest! How lovingly I would bear You in my hands, my Jesus, when my voice had brought You down from Heaven. How lovingly I would give. You to souls!” “Yet while wanting to be a priest, I admire St. Francis of Assisi and envy his humility, longing to imitate him in refusing this sublime dignity.”

By the logic they use I guess Therese also wanted to get a sex change operation to be a man since she admired St. Francis’ humility. Funny also how women’s ordination proponents also usually leave out the part about envying humility. But humility does not go hand and hand when you say you are right and the Church guided by the Holy Spirit is wrong.


TOPICS: Catholic; Humor; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: feminists

1 posted on 01/03/2013 1:20:27 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
From the YouTube Video ...

Other churches try to shmooze me but I'm a catholic, so ordain me!

Lol ... they're not giving up.

2 posted on 01/03/2013 1:22:43 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

It took me a couple of minutes to realize that this wasn’t a parody video of some sort. It was so cheesy and over the top that I thought it just had to be a joke of some sort.


3 posted on 01/03/2013 1:25:14 PM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: NYer

Thanks for the laugh, NYer! These women are on crack.


4 posted on 01/03/2013 1:32:57 PM PST by eastsider
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To: NYer
Ordain a Lady

YouTube: "Comments are disabled for this video."

5 posted on 01/03/2013 1:33:13 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("If you're going through hell, keep on going."--Winston Churchill)
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To: NYer
How lovingly I would bear You in my hands, my Jesus, when my voice had brought You down from Heaven. How lovingly I would give. You to souls!”

Just an editorial note that Autofill inserted a period incorrectly after "give", probably because of the atypical capitalization of the word "You" when it refers to any person of the triune God. Should read:

"...How lovingly I would give You to souls!”

6 posted on 01/03/2013 1:41:00 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("If you're going through hell, keep on going."--Winston Churchill)
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To: NYer

sigh. All this gender bickering makes my head hurt.

I don’t believe Jesus wanted us to continue getting stuck in a mindset like the pharisees. He wanted our hearts and minds and bodies to serve Him, and our human nature has to go and screw up that simple thing.

I’m not gonna get into the my priest is better than your priest business. We get too focused on man-made and church-made rules and forget to be like Jesus, do like Jesus.

I think He will come back soon anyway and He’ll continue to fulfill every prophecy ever written about Him. I just want to be in His number, and have the sweet task of worshiping Him at His throne! And I bet there will be a lot of female “priests/pastors” who will be there right beside me, just like I can bet that there will be quite a few male priests/pastors who will NOT be there! Gender doesn’t automatically da#$ you to the eternal fires—it’s SIN. I’m not gonna get into the Church’s long list of types of sin, categories of sin, when children become aware of sin, where my soul goes when I die, etc. I’ll leave that to folks who have lots of time on their hands to argue such stuff.

It’s like the different types of baptism. I just tell my daughter it’s man’s way of messing up a very simple commitment to Jesus and then trying to make sure everyone else feels bad or inferior about their kind of baptism. We quarrel and quibble too much about stupid stuff and meanwhile souls and hearts are lost to Him. That is the real shame.


7 posted on 01/03/2013 1:47:48 PM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: NYer

Perhaps I’m wrong here but my understanding was that reserving ordination for men was like reserving it for celibate men - ecclesiology rather than theology. That is its a matter for the church on earth to bind or let loose.

The church could, in theory, permit priests to marry as in the Eastern Orodox churches (although I understand why they do not). Could they not permit female ordination in the same way?

Please excuse any ignorance. I ask because some Orthodox churches are adding diaconesses to the roster again. Apparently it fell out of common practice for 1,400 years but it was never forbidden as such.


8 posted on 01/03/2013 1:54:11 PM PST by texanred
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To: texanred
Dear texanred,

The Church cannot permit priests to marry.

However, she can permit married men to be ordained to the priesthood. That is a matter of discipline.

She cannot validly ordain women. That is a matter of doctrine.


sitetest

9 posted on 01/03/2013 2:20:57 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: texanred
Thank you, texanred, for the post and ping! You raise some excellent questions. Hopefully, I can address them.

my understanding was that reserving ordination for men was like reserving it for celibate men

Not exactly. At the most basic level, the answer to the question of a male priesthood is simple: The New Testament priesthood is the priesthood of Christ Himself. All men who, through the Sacrament of Holy Orders, have become priests (or bishops) participate in Christ's priesthood. And they participate in it in a very special way: They act in persona Christi Capitis, in the person of Christ, the Head of His Body, the Church. The ordination of men is an unbroken tradition that goes back not only to the Apostles but to Christ Himself. Ordination does not simply give a man permission to perform the functions of a priest; it imparts to him an indelible (permanent) spiritual character that makes him a priest, and since Christ and His Apostles chose only men to be priests, only men can validly become priests.

Insofar as the issue of celibacy, All Catholic Churches, with the exception of the Latin Church, allow for a married priesthood, like the Orthodox Churches. Although it is not widely known in our Western world, the Catholic Church is actually a communion of Churches. At present there are 22 Churches that comprise the Catholic Church. While this diversity within the one Catholic Church can appear confusing at first, it in no way compromises the Church's unity. In a certain sense, it is a reflection of the mystery of the Trinity. Just as God is three Persons, yet one God, so the Church is 22 Churches, yet one Church.

Speaking to the 11th General Synod Fathers, gathered for their eighth meeting at the Vatican in 2005, Cardinal Nasrallah Pierre Sfeir, who is Patriarch of Antioch of the Maronites in Lebanon--a Catholic rite which allows for married priests--addressed the issue, which had been brought up by many.

While pointing out that "the Maronite Church admits married priests" and that "half of our diocesan priests are married", the Cardinal Patriarch said that "it must be recognized that if admitting married men resolves one problem, it creates others just as serious."

"A married priest", he said, "has the duty to look after his wife and family, ensuring his children receive a good education and overseeing their entry into society. ... Another difficulty facing a married priest arises if he does not enjoy a good relationship with his parishioners; his bishop cannot transfer him because of the difficulty of transferring his whole family.

Essentially, the costs of maintaining a married priest and his family must either be borne by the parish community or the priest must take a job to earn sufficient funds to support the financial needs of his family. This includes: housing, transportation, medical & dental insurance, groceries, clothing, and education, to cite just a few items. The Maronite Catholic Church only allows married priests to serve in Lebanon. Outside that country, all of their clergy are celibate.

Could they not permit female ordination in the same way? I ask because some Orthodox churches are adding diaconesses to the roster again. Apparently it fell out of common practice for 1,400 years but it was never forbidden as such.

"No." The basis for the Church’s teaching on ordination is found in the New Testament as well as in the writings of the Church Fathers.

While women could publicly pray and prophesy in church (1 Cor. 11:1–16), they could not teach or have authority over a man (1 Tim. 2:11–14), since these were two essential functions of the clergy. Nor could women publicly question or challenge the teaching of the clergy (1 Cor. 14:34–38).

The following quotations from the Church Fathers indicate that women do play an active role in the Church and that in the age of the Fathers there were orders of virgins, widows, and deaconesses, but that these women were not ordained.

The Fathers rejected women's ordination, not because it was incompatible with Christian culture, but because it was incompatible with Christian faith. Thus, together with biblical declarations, the teaching of the Fathers on this issue formed the tradition of the Church that taught that priestly ordination was reserved to men. Throughout medieval times and even up until the present day, this teaching has not changed.

Further, in 1994 Pope John Paul II formally declared that the Church does not have the power to ordain women. He stated, "Although the teaching that priestly ordination is to be reserved to men alone has been preserved by the constant and universal tradition of the Church and firmly taught by the magisterium in its more recent documents, at the present time in some places it is nonetheless considered still open to debate, or the Church’s judgment that women are not to be admitted to ordination is considered to have a merely disciplinary force. Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church’s divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Luke 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful" (OrdinatioSacerdotalis 4).

10 posted on 01/03/2013 2:22:39 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

Form your own religion or join one who follows your beliefs. The Catholic church rules are not yours.


11 posted on 01/03/2013 2:29:36 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: NYer

As always, interesting post...


12 posted on 01/03/2013 2:38:42 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: texanred
Celibacy for Catholic priests is a disciplinary matter, not dogmatic; however, the reservation of the ordained priesthood to male candidates is decidedly theological. According to Catholic sacramental theology, an ordained priest acts in the person of Christ the head (in persona Christi capitis), the bridegroom of the Church. To the extent that Christ is male, as is the concept of bridegroom, only males are called to the Catholic priesthood. (For the last word on the matter, please see the Apostolic Letter Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, promulgated 22 May 1994 by Blessed John Paul II.)

It should be noted that the priesthood of the Christian faithful is enjoyed by all baptized Christians, male and female alike.

13 posted on 01/03/2013 2:44:46 PM PST by eastsider
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To: NYer

Thanks, that was a complete and thorough response!


14 posted on 01/03/2013 2:50:00 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: NYer

Thanks, that was a complete and thorough response!


15 posted on 01/03/2013 2:51:01 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: texanred; NYer
Thank you for your humble and courtous way of asking questions. (Looking around.) Wish there were more of you around here. :o)

Priests aren't allowed to marry anywhere, never have been, now or then, East or West. But married men can be ordained priests per the Eastern Churches. No problems there. It may seem confusing but here's the thing: you can be a married man and become a priest. You can't be ordained a priest first, and then get married.

Women priests? No, and not ever. Even if the Pope lost his mind and started ordaining women in the Sistine Chapel with the oooh-mystical sound of chanting all around and readings from the Book of Neuteronomy: no. It's not that it's not "allowed," it's that it's not "possible." In fact, that's how we'd know the Pope had lost his mind! -- or better, had been kidnapped and replaced by a somebody from the planet Erehwon -- right over there to the left of Kolob :o).

Why?

It's not something to do with the job description: women can certainly "do" preaching, praying, parish administration, whatever. It has to do with "being" --- that is, with the embodied sign. Whiuch is the very substance of a Sacrament (not a function, a sign: I can't say that enough.)

Mo' later, I don't have time to do essay-form right now...

but think: does sex (being created male or female) have embodied meaning? Yes. And in two sacraments that makes a difference. The first is Matrimony: has to be a man and a woman because they "mean" the goodness of God's creating us male and female: in some mysterious way:

"So God created man in His own image,
in the image of God created He him;
male and female created He them."

And the other Sacrament where embodied sex counts, is Holy Orders. Because the priest is not just doing the work of Christ, he is an embodied sign of Christ.

It's the "embodied sign" thing. Not the job description.

Bye for now!!

16 posted on 01/03/2013 3:21:58 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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To: NYer

Thanks for this great post! I am going to copy it to my Word program, bump it up to font size 22, and read it a second time carefully!


17 posted on 01/03/2013 3:24:00 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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To: NYer
But humility does not go hand and hand when you say you are right and the Church guided by the Holy Spirit is wrong.

And those same folks who have pushed for ordination for women for so many years, have now glommed on to the homosexual marriage movement, and have it in their heads that it is an injustice for the Church NOT to allow them to marry.

Hubris, pure and simple.

18 posted on 01/03/2013 3:49:34 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: NYer

That is a hoot and is typical in all churches. God “called” her??? I think she got her lines crossed.


19 posted on 01/03/2013 4:37:56 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: sitetest; texanred

With the dilineation/guideline that if their wife dies, they then cannot remarry and must remain celibate.

There are more and more Anglican priests coming to the Catholic Church; I believe we have two or three in our diocese. I went to the ordination of one (along with eight other men) and his wife and grown children were there with him.


20 posted on 01/03/2013 4:39:16 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: sitetest
The Church could permit priests to marry. The ordination of women is forbidden, now and forever.
21 posted on 01/03/2013 4:43:51 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: SuziQ

Abortions, feminism and homosexuality all have the same goal in mind: to destroy all differences between men and women.


22 posted on 01/03/2013 6:01:10 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: NYer
"Excommunication, I’m still glowing"

(And they may be glowing for a long, long, long time!!!)

(I hope not!!!    I hope they "see the light".)   


23 posted on 01/03/2013 6:29:31 PM PST by Heart-Rest ("I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse; therefore choose life" Deuteronomy 30:19)
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To: RPTMS
Dear RPTMS,

You raise interesting issues.

With regard to women's ordination, of course, the Church teaches that you can say the words of ordination over a woman, and just nothing will happen. You don't have proper matter, you need a baptized man, not a woman.

With regard to permitting the already-ordained to marry, the Church does permit men previously ordained to marry, and they are validly married. It actually happens. Of course, the Church requires laicization first, but even the loss of the clerical state does not undo the ontological effects of ordination. The man, though having rejoined the laity, is still a priest, even if he may not licitly call himself one anymore.

Yet, I think that the mind of the Church is not that this is like the discipline of not permitting married men generally to become priests.

There are others who could better speak to the theology involved with this, but I think that what the Church is saying is that the discipline of ordaining only celibate men is a good one, but not an absolute moral necessity, while the practice of barring clerics from marrying post-ordination is a matter of moral necessity, even if it is not a matter of ontological impossibility.

So, although it might be that a cleric might validly marry, it would be like a man who steals or commits adultery. It's possible, but intrinsically evil.


sitetest

24 posted on 01/03/2013 6:29:41 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: NYer
Oh, brother.

I mean, um, sister.

I mean --- smash the gender binary ---SIBLING!!

25 posted on 01/03/2013 6:32:27 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: sassy steel magnolia

You wrote:

“We get too focused on man-made and church-made rules and forget to be like Jesus, do like Jesus.”

Jesus ordained ONLY men. That’s what we do.


26 posted on 01/03/2013 6:32:54 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: sitetest; RPTMS; NYer; Mrs. Don-o

Excellent discussion, sitetest. The distinction between what is “allowed or not allowed” and what is “possible or impossible” is often lost.


27 posted on 01/04/2013 4:48:26 AM PST by Tax-chick (Mostly just confused.)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi; Tax-chick; NYer; RPTMS; don-o
Now this really is sad.

I looked up the original Youtube video this was based on --- "Call Me Maybe" by Carly Rae Jepsen (Link) --- and OK, this is a spoiler--- after this girl tries so hard to catch this guy, and it looks like he's taking an interest and young lust is a-startin' to heat up nicely, the guy of her dreammmmmssss starts puttin the move on somebody else in Carly Rae's band! ---(sob) --- another GUY!

Oh, Heat-loss and Heartbreak!

And it illustrates just what we've been saying, in an ironic way: there's a difference between male and female. There's supposed to be! And when you kick over the traces and do the gender-erases, all manner of absurdity ensues. Oh, Dang and Heart-Pang!

Poor Carly Rae.

And these poor girls, fed such a line of !@$#@ by the Women's Ordination Conference.

AAAAARGH!!!!

28 posted on 01/04/2013 8:36:09 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
somebody else in Carly Rae's band! ---(sob) --- another GUY

I have a new theory that I think explains some otherwise confusing elements in our society's approach to the relations of the sexes.

Imagine you're a young man. You have a powerful sexual urge. You want a sex-partner who is as eager to engage in sex acts as you are. You want the partner to have a firm, muscular body. You don't want the partner to expect an exclusive sexual relationship, whether temporary or permanent. You don't want the partner to have tiresome emotional complications, or to expect attention when you'd rather watch sports, play video games, or drink beer with your friends. You don't want the partner to produce consequences, such as babies. to put it bluntly, you just want to ejaculate.

Doesn't this sound like "you," our modern young American man, really want ANOTHER GUY, not one of those *shudder* women?

29 posted on 01/04/2013 9:09:06 AM PST by Tax-chick (Mostly just confused.)
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To: texanred

“The church could, in theory, permit priests to marry as in the Eastern Orthodox churches (although I understand why they do not).”

To clarify this somewhat further....

The Eastern Orthodox allow a married man to become a priest. But once he has become a priest he is not allowed to marry. If he becomes a priest as a single man he can never marry. If his wife dies he can never marry again.

The Western Catholic church, in general, does not allow a married man to become a priest, though it could and indeed does in some cases, and without scandal. Most noteably when it receives a man into the priesthood that is a priest in another faith. This is most prominently happening with the influx of Anglican/Episcopal priests and parishes into the Catholic church via the new Ordinariate.

So the upshot is, in neither east or west can a priest marry but both allow a married man to become a priest, in the east this is the norm, in the west it is the rare exception.


30 posted on 01/04/2013 10:16:22 AM PST by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: sassy steel magnolia

You need to study Scripture, all of it, carefully.


31 posted on 01/04/2013 10:18:36 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: Tax-chick
DING - DING - DING - DING!

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a WINNAH!!

You are exactly right. For a man (a certain kind of man, for convenience we'll call him a triflin' Leftist man, but hey, could be secular white Right or even Libertarian!) the ideal lust object being another MAN (or boy, they're smoother and tauter) --- and any lingering repugnance over unseemly contact with the solid waste system is quickly overcome by the consideration that no surprise offspring will ensue, and no intricate emotional entanglements. In short, no baby and no baggage.

And here's an ever sadder thing: Germain Greer was saying something LIKE this 40+ years ago in "The Female Eunuch"--- oddly, though: forever getting it smack-right, and then instantly reversing and upending herself.

She used to say that the hellacious thing about gender stereotyping is, not that gay men are expected to be feminized like women, but that women are expected to be eunuchs like gay men.

Greer used to say that men (here again, she means trifling Leftist men, the only kind she knew) hate women, though the (Leftist) women do not realize this and are taught to hate themselves.

At one point she yells, "I’m sick of being a transvestite. I refuse to be a female impersonator. I am a woman, not a castrate!

Then she goes on to idiotically recommend that all women become female nullos anyway, no functional attachment-feelings, no really functional attachment-parts, all their fertility and feelings disabled---

I mean, how is a contracepting or sterilized woman so much different from a F2M Trannie? Basically your systems have been knocked out, hormonally and/or surgically doctored, neutered, "fixed."

All that's left is artifice. You may was well be an android.

[I-hate-contraception-and-female-nullification-rant-mode-OFF]

32 posted on 01/04/2013 10:46:36 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: ReformationFan; SuzyQ
Hey Reformation Fan---

I think you're exactly right, it's ultimately a push to destroy "male and female created He them." To erode the idea that we have created natures; that anything or anybody has a created nature. You might like the following:

#28

#29

#31

33 posted on 01/04/2013 11:23:13 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Somebody else has always thought of things before I did! Not that that’s bad or anything ...

A lot of data fit this paradigm. There’s the idea that all women, even married ones innocently shopping at Walmart, are on a sexual display like men in a San Francisco “pride” parade. There’s the lack of criticism of a sexually immoral woman, UNTIL she’s pregnant or has a child: she goes from “hottie” to “slut” if she steps out of the role of no-consequences sexual outlet. There’s the ever-more-open favoring of sodomitic sex acts, even among men who consider themselves heterosexual, along with the disparagement of natural women’s bodies of all descriptions. There’s the expectation that women, even casual acquaintances, should comfortably, with men, view lewd pictures or participate in lewd conversation.

Random point: We were listening to a rock station on satellite radio last night while I was driving some kids to a Scout meeting, and the announcer starting talking about his penis! After quickly changing the station (”Not BLUEGRASS!”) I observed that the speaker was either homosexual or at the maturity level of a newly potty-trained 3-year-old.


34 posted on 01/04/2013 12:11:56 PM PST by Tax-chick (Mostly just confused.)
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To: Tax-chick
((((sigh)))))

I know some sane and loving, lovable, intelligent, intelligible men and women. I do. I have to say that right now.

The vulgarity and rutty-nuttiness isn't everywhere, all the time. I know that for a fact.

35 posted on 01/04/2013 12:44:29 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

“Doesn't this sound like ‘you,’ our modern young American man, really want ANOTHER GUY, not one of those *shudder* women?”

That's one of the themes of Updike's The Rumor.

I used to have a photograph of two devices sitting next to each other. One had an on-off switch. It was labeled, “man.” The other had many switches, dials and controls. It was labeled, “woman.”

Men ARE easier.

But this man thinks the ladies are infinitely more fun.


sitetest

36 posted on 01/04/2013 12:57:18 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I know some sane and loving, lovable, intelligent, intelligible men and women.

So do I. In fact, in my real life, such as it is, practically everyone seems to be an actual human being, and treats others the same way.

However, the observations behind my posts are drawn largely from comments on Free Republic, so it's not as if this phenomenon is limited to liberal twerps. I often retreat to the kitchen shaking my head, saying, "Who ARE these people?" and then I wonder if the people in real life are really like this, too, and I'm just too ditzy to realize it!

37 posted on 01/04/2013 1:55:55 PM PST by Tax-chick (Mostly just confused.)
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To: sitetest
one of the themes of Updike's The Rumor

Everything I think of, someone already did ...

I've seen that picture. It's always seemed to me to imply that the "Man" version is right and the "Woman" version is wrong, but that could just be my midlife crisis speaking. (That's also why I'm listening to the hard rock station on the radio ... some weird hormonal thing that makes me like the same music as a 16-year-old boy.)

38 posted on 01/04/2013 2:03:49 PM PST by Tax-chick (The paint is in the basket with the skulls in there. Don't tell me you can't find it!)
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To: texanred; sassy steel magnolia
1 Timothy 2
11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
The role of the priest is to teach and to have authority over those of his parish.
39 posted on 01/04/2013 2:57:52 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

Indeed. It seems like something done by the Zucker Brothers(Airplane!, Top Secret!, etc.)


40 posted on 01/06/2013 3:56:26 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan; NYer
RF, NY, another wunnerful, wunnderful response to "Ordain a Lady!" I just came across this at a Lutheran website. I suppose I'm plagiarizing or something, but I just had to share.

January 8, 2013 7:14 PM Carl Vehse said... Another hit single by the Antichristettes: Mr. Pope-man (to the tune of “Mr. Sandman“):

Mr. Pope-man, bring me a dream;
Make me a priestess like you’ve never seen.
Give me a stole and chasuble vestures,
And let me do those sacerdotal gestures.

Pope-man, it’s so unfair,
St. Paul’s epistles “males only” declare.
Change this with a papal bull;
Mr. Pope-man, give girls priest rule.

Mr. Pope-man, bring me a dream;
Make me a priestess like you’ve never seen.
A mitre to wear — it’s really no big deal;
Then someday I’ll need papal shoes in high heel.

Pope-man, I’m so alone,
No female cleric to call my own.
Please contrive a pontiff scheme;
Mr. Pope-man, give gals their dream.

Mr. Pope-man, bring me a dream;
Let women clergy be part of the team.
You’ll soon have girlish bishops and vicars
(And maybe GLBT priests in knickers).

Mr. Pope-man, a crozier to hold
Would be so peachy before I’m too old.
So change God’s Word with your decrees
Mr. Pope-man, ordain,
Please, please, ordain,
Mr. Pope-man, ordain girls priests.

41 posted on 01/12/2013 7:18:18 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Say it Loud! Meek and Proud!)
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