Skip to comments.Catholic Church and Castro in cahoots to ‘eradicate’ homosexuals? MSNBC pundit’s incoherent rant
Posted on 01/04/2013 2:43:09 PM PST by NYer
ROME, January 3, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) Readers may be surprised to hear that Jesus Christ was the first socialist; every word of every article in the Vatican newspaper is virtually dictated personally by Pope Benedict; every country in Europe indeed in the whole world is socialist; the Catholic Church thrives under socialist regimes; and Fidel Castros mass murdering regime is on a moral par with the Catholic Church because they both allegedly want to eradicate homosexuals.
All of these assertions have come from the mouth of MSNBCs Lawrence ODonnell, who recorded a strange and confused 3.5 minute tirade against Pope Benedict XVIs Christmas address, in which the pope warned that abortion and the advance of the homosexualist political and social agenda is a threat to the stability of human societies.
ODonnell included several astonishing whoppers, including the assertion that a vow of celibacy automatically renders those who make it tragically ignorant about marriage. This despite the indisputable fact that the Pope, as well as nearly all clergy, are themselves the product of marriage, are surrounded like everyone else by married people and minister to married people, in addition to presumably being in possession of the normal human rational capacity that would allow them understand common cultural concepts.
Mr. ODonnell appears not to have noticed that the Catholic Church, whose clergy have been celibate for centuries, has been administering the sacrament of marriage, counselling married people and generally been intimately involved in the institution of marriage since the founding of Christian civilization.
Another jaw-dropper was the astonishing news that Jesus Christ was the original socialist because he fed the poor and admonished the moneychangers in the Temple. Because apparently in Mr. ODonnells odd universe, no one other than socialists have ever done any of these things.
Demonstrating his deep penetration of Vatican affairs, ODonnell goes on to say that everything in the Vatican newspaper [LOsservatore Romano] is virtually dictated by the pope. To which assertion many long-time Catholic observers of the Vatican scene will doubtless respond after they pick themselves up off the floor Oh, would that it were so!
But it is when ODonnell equates the Catholic Churchs teaching on the meaning of human sexuality with the mass murders undertaken by Fidel Castros regime after his takeover of Cuba, that the Wonderland Whirl really begins. So dizzyingly bizarre are the comparisons and insinuations that it becomes difficult to sort out just what point Mr. ODonnell is trying to make.
The most hard-core socialist practitioner of all time was also viciously anti-gay, says ODonnell. Castro, who started life as a Roman Catholic, rounded up homosexuals and sent them to re-education camps.
In Fidel Castros socialist utopia, gay sex was a criminal act, ODonnell continues. Castro believed he could actually rid his country of all homosexuality, and he did everything in his power to achieve that. Therefore, ODonnell said, socialism has not been a special friend to gay people.
At the same time, ODonnell claims, the Catholic Church has thrived in socialist countries around the world, although it this week seems to want to pretend it is suddenly threatened by socialism. These socialist countries, he says, include Italy. Yes, Italy is a socialist country, as is every country in Europe, as is every country in the world, to varying degrees, he adds.
He declined, however, to mention the countless thousands of Catholic inmates who perished in the Gulag system, prisons and torture chambers of the countries of the Soviet Union. He seems also never to have heard of any of the writings of any of the popes, largely before the 1960s, warning the world of the threat of socialistic Communism.
Untangled, ODonnells message seems to be that the Catholic Church is socialist, because it follows Jesus Christ, the first socialist, and it is therefore exactly like Castro in its desire to persecute, torture and murder homosexuals presumably with the approval of its socialist Founder.
Fortunately, Pope Benedict, who has been known to read a book or two now and then, was rather more coherent in his message for Christmas. However little Mr. ODonnell may be aware of it, there is very little dispute in academia or among the more serious-minded public commentators that the gender theory driving the far-left, homosexualist political agenda is an offshoot of radical academic feminism, that is itself the child of Marxist theory. So much can be discovered by simply Googling the search terms Engels, monogamous, family.
It is hardly credible to dispute the connection of the LGBTQ agenda with the left, particularly in Europe where it forms a cornerstone of all the socialist, leftist and green parties platforms. Benedict is among the many who have personally experienced the effects of socialistic theories put into practice in various totalitarian regimes in recent European history, and is well placed to issue warnings against its re-growth under new names.
In the Christmas address that Mr. ODonnell was at such pains to ridicule, Benedict warned that the attack on the family goes much deeper than was previously believed. It is a product, the pope said, ultimately of a foundational error about what it means to be human. It is a refusal to accept the very notion that there is such a thing as human nature, connected to their bodily identity, which we all share.
While up to now we regarded a false understanding of the nature of human freedom as one cause of the crisis of the family, it is now becoming clear that the very notion of being of what being human really means is being called into question, Pope Benedict said. Gender theorys adherents, and the many more people they have seduced, deny their nature and decide that it is not something previously given to them, but that they make it for themselves.
In the gender ideology, sex is no longer a given element of nature, that man has to accept and personally make sense of: it is a social role that we choose for ourselves, while in the past it was chosen for us by society.
The theory denies the immutable, dual nature of humanity, that being created by God as male and female pertains to the essence of the human creature. But, this duality is an essential aspect of what being human is all about, Pope Benedict said.
If there is no pre-ordained duality of man and woman in creation, then neither is the family any longer a reality established by creation, he said.
The manipulation of nature, which we deplore today where our environment is concerned, now becomes mans fundamental choice where he himself is concerned. From now on there is only the abstract human being, who chooses for himself what his nature is to be.
LOsservatore Romano followed up the popes address with the observation that the new theory of a mutable, essentially self-determined human nature, is part and parcel of the socialist attempt to entirely re-write the nature of human beings and human societies. Lucetta Scaraffia, an eminent Italian historian who has also presumably read a few books, wrote that gender theory and its political causes are in fact the ultimate expression of Marx and Engels initial call for the abolition of the two-parent, biologically-based family.
She warned that the societies will pay a high price for the attempt to found a society on these premises, as has already happened in the past when we have tried to achieve a complete economic and social equality.
Pope Benedict warned, perhaps most ominously of all, that the final results of the implementation of this theory is the total objectification of human beings, particularly children. From being a subject of rights, the child has become an object to which people have a right and which they have a right to obtain.
Sigh. Everybody talks about “eradicating homosexulas”, but nobody does anything about it. (Larry, this is sarcastic humor, which a lunatic like you would never ubderstand)
Bonnie Erbe recently penned a column gleefully celebrating the end of Christianity. Stay classy Bonnie.
There is no excuse for such libtard ignorance.
Romans 1:20 NIV
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualitieshis eternal power and divine naturehave been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
Oh my...Larry’s off his meds again.
Homosexuals should ban together and create their own country, welcoming all other homosexuals.
They can live anyway they way they want.
Eventually they will be gone.
If this moron is really concerned about his homosexual community he might want to stop worrying about the Pope and the Catholic Church and keep an eye out for his Muzzie buddies. They are the only group out there right now that I know of that is trying to wipe out the homosexuals. They frequently hang their homosexuals. The Pope and the Catholic Church isn’t doing that. O’Donnell is a clueless idiot.
Lately at least, Dr. Phil's show seems to be a bit reminiscent of the old "Jerry Springer" show (for those familiar with that old show, and all the bizarre whackjobs, nutballs, and fruitcakes who appeared on it years ago).
I bet Dr. Phil could achieve a real ratings bonanza if he could line up (for his show) all the insane lunatics who "function" as commentators on msnbc (like loony Lawrence O'Donnell), and try to bring some level of mental stability and psychological sanity to that bunch of bubbleheaded bozos.
(Now, that would be a real challenge!)
Well, to be fair, the Lord Jesus Christ did not care about money. His task was much greater - to save mankind from their sin and doom. Besides, since He is Lord of All -- He didn't need money.
All in all, a pretty asinine statement by the MSNBC talking head. In theory, I don't see anything awful about Socialism, as our focus should be in serving and glorifying God. In practice, and as clearly demonstrated over the past 100+ years, Socialism is an utter disaster when run by man (it seemed to have worked for a little while, right after Pentecost 33 A.D., when the Holy Spirit ran the Government of the first Believers).
Socialism turns Government into a 'god', and rewards those who will not work. Basically it gives Satan clear reign in this world, as he quickly takes authority of the government heads.
For the National Socialists in Germany -- it led to Nation/Race worship -- and hell on Earth; for the Maoist Socialists -- it led to personality worship -- and again hell on Earth; for Cuba -- again personality worship -- and hell on Earth. Same for Cambodia, North Korea, the USSR, etc... I suppose you could say that Sweden has not descended into the depths as these other places -- but give them time, it will end up the same when government becomes a people's god...
Psalm 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
If Lawrence O’Donnell is not a raving queen, then my gaydar is seriously broken.
Ping for later
O’Donnell is such a maroon.
I thought they were going to keep him off the air when he was drunk.
These people don,t want anything to do with Jesus Christ, yet when it comes to spreading their homosexual marriage or their socialism they will always try to make it look like that is what our Lord advocated, so fishy even an idiot could see through it.
The “To The Contrary” page on the PBS website twice says Bonnie Erbe is “non partisan”. Laugh of the day.