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But why do YOU go to Mass? critical importance of rendering personal testimony in evangelization
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | January 6, 2013 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 01/07/2013 4:07:39 PM PST by NYer

Some decades ago the argument from authority was often invoked as we answered some question about the faith. It was often considered sufficient merely invoke the existence of a rule. And thus, to my nagging question, “Why should I have to go to mass?” my parents would often answer, “Because it’s a rule!” Other variations of the answer would be, “Because the Church says so,” or, “Because it’s in the Ten Commandments.”

Never mind that there might actually be reasons that there was a rule, or a commandment. It was considered enough in those old days simply to say, “It is a rule.”

If, to some degree, it was sufficient back in those days to merely invoke authority, it is now, for better or worse, no longer the case today that it is enough simply to do so. It is true that there is a rule that we must attend Mass. For as the Catechism says,

This practice of the Christian assembly dates from the beginnings of the apostolic age. The Letter to the Hebrews reminds the faithful “not to neglect to meet together, as is the habit of some, but to encourage one another.”…the faithful are obliged to participate in the Eucharist on days of obligation, unless excused for a serious reason (for example, illness, the care of infants) or dispensed by their own pastor. Those who deliberately fail in this obligation commit a grave sin. (CCC 2178, 2181)

And the Ten Commandments say,

Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy…. the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a day of sacred assembly. (Ex 20:18; Lev 23:3)

and Jesus says in John 6:53,

Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

As so it is clear, there is a Rule that we attend Mass. But it also remains true that the reasons the Church, the Lord, and Law all say this. For indeed, something is true not nearly because the Church or the Lord, or the Bible say so. But rather, the Lord, the Bible and the Church say so because it is true.

And from this perspective, perhaps it is a good thing that merely arguing from authority, or arguing from the existence of rules and Commandments, is not enough. We live in times where the reasons, and the logic behind such rules is often insisted upon.

Perhaps it is not unreasonable for those to whom we speak to demand such proof. For, as Scripture puts it, Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect (1 Peter 3:15). And thus it is good that we be able to give reasons for the things we teach, and the practices we rightfully insist upon. As never before, we are required not simply to say what we teach, but why.

So alright, parents, you rightfully should teach your children that they must go to Mass on Sunday, and also to pray, prepare for and receive Sacraments, and to belong to a believing community we call Parish, to insist that they ought to read Scripture know the Faith. Yes, it is right that a parent to teach their children these things. So alright you say to your children you must go to Mass on Sunday.

But but why do YOU go?

Notice that this question, does not ask merely for reasons to go to Mass, but asks for YOUR reasons. Why do you go, what is your personal testimony? For, frankly, it is not enough for us to give merely catechetical or apologetical reasons. Our children, as never before, need to have very personal testimony from their parents about the transformative power of faith in Jesus Christ. It’s time to testify, that is, to give her a personal testimony/ Yes, as never before, our children need to hear from us, parents, priests, catechists, parishioners.

So. why do you go to mass? Is there something you get out of it? How have you been blessed, and what are the fruits and effects having gone to Mass faithfully for many years? What effects have the Sacraments, prayer, liturgy in the Mass had on you?

Again, do not overlook personal quality that we must be invited to supply this testimony. Quoting the Saints and the teachings of the Church is indeed good and proper, but it is not enough. There comes a point in every Christian life when we who are mature in the faith need to testify: That what the Scriptures announce and the Church teaches is true. And I personally know it to be true because, in the laboratory of my own life, I have both tested and verified the truth of what is taught, and come to know personally that is true.

Therefore, the question remains, Why do YOU go to Mass?

Let me, as a priest, announce my own testimony. I want to say that since I was 24 years of age, when I entered the seminary, I have gone to Mass every day. I have both studied, and heard proclaimed, God’s Word every day. I have gathered with God’s people in the celebration of the sacred liturgy every day, and every Sunday. I pray every day for an hour, I pray the Liturgy of the Hours, and go to Confession once a week. I have lived in fellowship with other believers, gathering with them for prayer, and have experienced the both silent and vocal testimony of their faith and their experience that God is real, and God is good.

And I want to say, that as a result of all of this, I am a changed man. I have seen sins put to death, and new virtues come alive. I have a new mind, I think different thoughts, my priorities are different, and are better. I am more discerning, and my understanding of the meaning and purpose of my life is deeper. I have overcome terrible anxieties, and fears, and now I live in confidence, hope and joy. My life is not pain-free, or trouble-free, but I understand these troubles in a new way, seeing them as moments for growth, and grace. I am less negative, more positive and hopeful.

I could go on… But let me say this, I give God all the glory. It is his grace that transforms me. And I will say, He has done this primarily through the liturgy, through the holy Mass. He has accomplished this through the Sacraments, especially Holy Communion and Confession. These have been like medicine to me. And remaining faithful to God and to all of his sacraments, his Word and to the fellowship with the Church, I have been utterly transformed by Him and am being transformed more perfectly day by day.

I go to Mass, because through it, the Lord is changing me, is healing me, is transforming me. I have come to personally understand what the Lord means, that if we do not eat his Flesh and drink his Blood, we have no life in us. Without the Sacrament of his Body and Blood, my life would be so diminished, nothing compared to what it is now, in effect dead. It is only by the grace of God, his Word, his Sacraments, Prayer, and fellowship in the Church, that I have any life at all.

Of course we need to go to Mass on Sunday, of course! Without it I would be as dead as a diabetic without insulin, as starved man without food. I go to Mass, because through it the Lord saves me, feeds me, heals me. I have been privileged to walk with the same community of faith for the better part of 20 years. And in those years, in moments of crisis that arose, they have sung to me, prayed for me, witnessed to me, and shared Communion with me, summoning me to faith and reminding me the trouble don’t last always.

Where would I be without the Lord’s Church, without the Mass all the Sacraments, without the Word of God? At best, I would be nowhere, or it worst, is a very dark place.

Thus, I go to Mass receive the Sacraments, pray and keep fellowship, read and study God’s Word because it changes and transforms me. In no way do I see these as tedious rituals. No indeed, these are transformative realities, encounters with the living and healing Jesus Christ, to whom be all glory and thanksgiving.

Why do YOU go to Mass? What is your testimony. It is not enough today (if it ever was) to invoke rules. We have to say why, and we have to testify to it in a very personal way. Why do you go to Mass? Tell somebody!


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Worship
KEYWORDS: liturgy; mass
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1 posted on 01/07/2013 4:07:48 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Simply put ... to worship God!


2 posted on 01/07/2013 4:09:08 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Simply put ... to worship God!


3 posted on 01/07/2013 4:10:10 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

I am not a catholic so I do not attend mass. But I do attend services in my church and I go to Bible study for the reason that was best stated in Proverbs 27:17:

“As iron sharpens iron, so one person man sharpens another.”

We become better Christians by holding ourselves accountable one to another and we become better Christians by gaining wisdom one from another. For myself this best happens in church or at Bible study and for catholics it happens for them at mass.


4 posted on 01/07/2013 4:14:14 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: NYer

I am not a catholic so I do not attend mass. But I do attend services in my church and I go to Bible study for the reason that was best stated in Proverbs 27:17:

“As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.”

We become better Christians by holding ourselves accountable one to another and we become better Christians by gaining wisdom one from another. For myself this best happens in church or at Bible study and for catholics it happens for them at mass.


5 posted on 01/07/2013 4:14:27 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: NYer

“To worship God”

Well, yes... But I can do that from anywhere.

For me, I find it very peacefuller and personalty rewarding to sit for an hour reflecting on matters religion, going over in my mind how I’ve acted and reacted to my fellow man (and woman) and seeking Christ’s support in areas where I have been weak.


6 posted on 01/07/2013 4:19:54 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: NYer

Last time I went to mass, admittedly a long time ago, it was a three ring circus with everyone talking and children moving around like screaming banchees. I could not even hear the usual tired montone of the scripture reader and Priest. Fortunately, I could read what they were trying to impart.

Pray? Nope. I did some chanting as it was all I could conjure: “Father, forgive us.” I must has “prayed” that a thousand times before I finally exited stage right.


7 posted on 01/07/2013 4:25:11 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: NYer
To strengthen my connection to God and show my love and thanks for all He does for me and mine.
8 posted on 01/07/2013 4:43:38 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: NYer; All
I have seen sins put to death, and new virtues come alive. I have a new mind, I think different thoughts, my priorities are different, and are better. I am more discerning, and my understanding of the meaning and purpose of my life is deeper. I have overcome terrible anxieties, and fears, and now I live in confidence, hope and joy. My life is not pain-free, or trouble-free, but I understand these troubles in a new way, seeing them as moments for growth, and grace. I am less negative, more positive and hopeful.

Quote from the author.

This is pretty much the reason I go too, and I'd submit, for anyone to go.

Mass, along with other good works of the Church, are viewed by some as "requirements" without a reason, a good reason (like the one above), as if they are a checklist of some sort to get into heaven. Even some Catholics sadly believe this. But even this "checklist" rationale is not a good enough reason to go, after all there's always Confession if one misses a checkmark now and then.

There must be a reason *now* that benefits *us* now, or else even the most die hard rules follower will stumble now and then, and for no reason other than they are a flawed human. So this (the quote above) is the claim all must consider, and all must *expect* with true adherence to the Sunday obligation.

That is, it's quite simple, the Christian claim: Jesus is alive, today, and He wants to help you live a truly human life, now, in every way possible, sparing nothing, denying nothing. The only church to not only offer me this but actually give me this is the Catholic Church, in my experience. As I've said before, I don't know how other "churches" can fulfill such a promise, since the presence of Christ in other churches is at best, a broken presence, only recently "rediscovered" at some point in history where a direct break from the Church was observed, if not an indirect (break from a denomination that broke away from the Church).

But, who am I to argue with another's experience? I can't. If someone reading this who is not a Catholic can honestly say their life has been just as transformed as the authors' and/or mine, and credits this transformation not to their own effort but can honestly say the transformation can only have come from God, then more power to them. I would respectfully submit however, this is not the case, as it's all too easy to convince oneself of anything spiritual; only through careful, rational, reasoned examination of oneself and one's circumstances, can one know for certain a change was due to Christ, and not due to a self-imposed fantasy. And I don't say that to be a wet blanket on anyone's "faith"; merely as a word of both caution and celebration.

Caution, borne of a concern for my fellow man, so that he may not waste his time on this earth chasing after fantasies and empty promises. Celebration, borne of a knowledge that no matter how much time may be wasted, there's always an opportunity to "return home", and come to know the fruits of the "100 fold blessing" right now, here on earth, as the author and I both testify.

Don't believe me? "Come and see" (cf John 1). This is often overlooked I fear in debates about Catholicism. The simplest claim about Christianity is paradoxically the most powerful. And indeed, because we are human beings, it's the only thing that is going to really convince anyone: one's OWN, personal experience. Not an experience shadowed by sarcasm, devoid of reason, or perhaps worst of all, tainted by the evil acts of a few in the Church, but an objectively true experience, in every sense of the word "objective". (and yes, even personal experiences can be "objective").

Jesus, being the great Teacher He is, knew this, knew humanity's need for personal experience so completely and without hesitation, that every act he took interacting with humanity was meant to show who He was (and is) through their personal experience 2,000 years ago (and ours today). Consider this for a moment: He, being God, could have just flipped a switch of some sort and declared, "Everyone is saved, goodbye I'm going back to Heaven now". And that would be it. But He didn't.

Ask yourself "why", and then re-read John 1 again, also asking, "Does this phrase, 'come and see' mean something more? Does it only mean what it plainly reads, a simple request from Jesus to a few Apostles 2,000 years ago, or does it also have a deeper meaning about my relationship with Jesus today?"

9 posted on 01/07/2013 4:56:18 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: NYer

Because they made me go to mass. No smart 4th grader is going to mess with a Nun with a serious 5 O’clock shadow. Not when they will pick you up by the ankles and shake you upside down. Didn’t hurt but wasn’t necessary.


10 posted on 01/07/2013 5:11:32 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: NYer

The Eucharist!! ....duh


11 posted on 01/07/2013 5:17:26 PM PST by Inured
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To: babygene

generally i agree, but it isn’t a substitute for publicly worshipping God with other fellow Christians and actually being in a place of relative peace with other believers. if the church you go to isn’t very correct and substantive in its preaching, the problem isn’t going to church, it’s that particular church.


12 posted on 01/07/2013 5:19:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: SaraJohnson

again, it’s not going to church that sounds like the problem, maybe it’s that paticular church.


13 posted on 01/07/2013 5:21:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: NYer

The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass lets me bask in God’s wondrous presence.

But I like his idea of transformation. I can identify with that.


14 posted on 01/07/2013 5:41:38 PM PST by Bigg Red (Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we couldn't keep it.)
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To: NYer

I loved this article and it made me think. I go to Mass to receive the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, to pray, and to learn.

If I stop learning I will be six feet under! LOL! I’m always learning something new about the Scriptures and Holy Tradition as well as the Church.


15 posted on 01/07/2013 5:52:03 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: babygene

When Catholics go to Church they are indeed, in the presence of the Body and Blood of Christ himself. Yes, a quiet time at home is wonderful, but there is nothing like falling on your knees during Mass, and saying, “My Lord and my God” three times at the Consecration of both the bread and the wine.

Non-Catholics miss out on this real presence of the Lord through the miracle of transubstantiation.

Definition:
Trans — transfer
Substantiation — substance

The substance of bread changes to the Body of Christ.
The substance of wine is chaned to the Blood of Christ.

Some doubt this miracle, but numerous Eucharistic miracles have proven it to be absolutely true.

Look up the word “Lanciano.”


16 posted on 01/07/2013 5:56:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MeganC

Meagan, you would make a wonderful Catholic.


17 posted on 01/07/2013 5:58:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SaraJohnson

**“Father, forgive us.**

I very often do this for the people who are talking and trying to make Mass time into fellowship time.


18 posted on 01/07/2013 5:59:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: USMCPOP
No smart 4th grader is going to mess with a Nun with a serious 5 O’clock shadow. Not when they will pick you up by the ankles and shake you upside down.

LOL

That brought back some memories for me. I was a particularly ornery boy and was beaten quite a bit by the sisters. The one that beat me the most always prefaced the beating with "God help you, child!" One time, after she hit me I asked her, "How is beating me helping God or me?" She smacked me so hard that time she knocked me down and loosened a tooth.

19 posted on 01/07/2013 6:01:16 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: NYer

I go to Mass (almost daily) because I love the Mass. It is that simple. I cannot understand any Catholic not loving the Mass. Anyone who has to push themselves to Mass out of obligation needs to reevaluate their faith to find out what is missing. It should take wild horses to keep you from the Mass, not drag you to it.


20 posted on 01/07/2013 6:43:42 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: Salvation

Just saying...

I’ve probably been Catholic longer than you’ve been alive.


21 posted on 01/07/2013 7:34:27 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Secret Agent Man; Salvation

I don’t have a problem with my church, Which is St. Johns Cathedral in Boise.

The question was “why do you go to Mass (every Sunday)” I gave you my answer. What’s your problem? I stated why it is important to me.


22 posted on 01/07/2013 7:48:37 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

I don’t have a problem, I just replied to your post. Your answer sounded like you don’t go because you “can worship God anywhere”, and then you went on to describe your alternative preference for taking a quiet hour by yourself instead.

I didn’t really see anywhere in your answer you explaining how important going to church was for you. Or were you saying that you prefer just sitting quietly in church for an hour by yourself meditating? It’s not that clear but if I didn’t catch it, it wasn’t obvious. No matter, wasn’t trying to stir up a hornet’s nest.


23 posted on 01/07/2013 8:09:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The question was: Why you go to church (Mass) every Sunday. And I do go to Mass every Sunday and I stated why it was important to me, very clearly.


24 posted on 01/07/2013 8:19:00 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“generally i agree, but it isn’t a substitute for publicly worshipping God with other fellow Christians and actually being in a place of relative peace with other believers. if the church you go to isn’t very correct and substantive in its preaching, the problem isn’t going to church, it’s that particular church.”

Secret Agent Man, I don’t know what’s in the heads of other worshipers. Even my wife... Nor does it concern me. Nor does it matter what they are preaching. If I’m lucky and my hearing aids battery’s are up to snuff I can hear it. But I know what it is or should be after 65 years...


25 posted on 01/07/2013 8:28:02 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: NYer
As a proud fallen-away Catholic, I do not go to mass.

Two of my nephews and at least one very good friend were victims of priestly pedophilia. I've seen first hand three young lives horribly disfigured.

I've seen generations worth of sweat-earned contributions going to pay for the damages.

Two of my parish priests are now doing long prison sentences for molesting altar boys. One of my parish priests now runs a church in another state for the LGBT community.

After all of that growing up, I for one cannot look at a Roman collar without feeling the overpowering desire to vomit.

That's why I don't go to mass, my good Archbishop of New York. I'm actually doing you a favor, lest I do a "Mr. Creosote" on your parishioners.

26 posted on 01/07/2013 8:50:05 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: NYer

I go to mass because I believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirt.


27 posted on 01/08/2013 3:09:07 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

As opposed to what you’re doing now?

Why do I go - because I enjoy it. :)


28 posted on 01/08/2013 3:19:52 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: NYer

“I didn’t go to religion to make me happy. I always knew a nice bottle if port would do that. If you want a religion to make you feel really comfortable, I certainly don’t recommend Christianity.” - C. S. Lewis

IOW ... I go to Mass to worship, not to “get something out if it.”


29 posted on 01/08/2013 3:39:29 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: SaraJohnson

“..three ring circus..., etc.”

Find a traditional Latin mass right away!! (Extra ordinary)


30 posted on 01/08/2013 4:35:49 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: NYer

You could take the Monsignor’s paragraph about why he goes to Mass and change the “he’s” to “I’s”. Mass has changed me made be a better person, wife, mother. I go to daily Mass as often as possible. As the world descends into darkness in so many ways sometimes Mass and the Eucharist are the only things keeping me going. God’s grace through the sacraments, especially Confession.


31 posted on 01/08/2013 5:12:31 AM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: NYer
Good morning.

Sure, there are many great reasons to go to Mass. I go to Mass as often as possible to get a dose of the Holy Spirit. In this day, and these times, I need as much of G-d's Holy Spirit as I can get.

5.56mm

32 posted on 01/08/2013 5:28:27 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: SaraJohnson
I could not even hear the usual tired montone of the scripture reader and Priest. Fortunately, I could read what they were trying to impart.

The scripture readings and homily are not the central part of the Mass. They help to prepare you for the Eucharist, which is the central part. The reception of our Lords Precious Body and Blood, is what sustains us and keeps us in communion with the entire Church.

33 posted on 01/08/2013 5:37:37 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Gluteus Maximus
That's why I don't go to mass, my good Archbishop of New York. I'm actually doing you a favor, lest I do a "Mr. Creosote" on your parishioners. Be sure to let us know when you find that church that doesn't have any sinners in the pews or at the pulpit.
34 posted on 01/08/2013 5:45:40 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: NYer

I go to Catholic Church to love GOD and to receive HIM Body and Blood so that I can feel HIS LOVE.

We should feel privileged to be in the direct presence of GOD and to receive HIM in the Eucharist.

We are all sinners and God’s mercy is so great that he just wants our love and the commitment that comes with love.

Can you imagine the rejection that God must feel when we reject His love?

I pray that all people will learn to love GOD and go to Mass, and then we may have real peace on earth.


35 posted on 01/08/2013 6:21:37 AM PST by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

i love to go to Mass because i feel God’s presence there. i prefer daily Mass to Sunday Mass mostly because they dispense with all the singing and happy slappy feel good stuff and it’s just the barebones. I’m lucky that my church is 2 blocks from my ofc and has noon Mass daily.


36 posted on 01/08/2013 6:29:13 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: NYer

John: 6:54-55 he that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up on the last day.

I go to mass for the eucharist.


37 posted on 01/08/2013 8:17:23 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: verga
Be sure to let us know when you find that church that doesn't have any sinners in the pews or at the pulpit.

I'll be satisfied with one where children are safe and where homosexuality isn't preached from the pulpit.

38 posted on 01/08/2013 8:42:45 AM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Salvation

“Meagan, you would make a wonderful Catholic.”

Thank you. With your kind words I can tell that you already are a wonderful Catholic.


39 posted on 01/08/2013 10:14:10 AM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Gluteus Maximus
I'll be satisfied with one where children are safe and where homosexuality isn't preached from the pulpit.

Good luck with that. Google Protestant predators, and see what coems up.

40 posted on 01/08/2013 10:40:22 AM PST by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: verga
Good luck with that.

Indeed. Which is why I haven't been to any organized religious service in just the longest time.

41 posted on 01/08/2013 10:54:15 AM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: NYer
I go to Mass for several reasons...

Primarily out of a sense of obligation to God. I owe God everything, so I must worship Him. The Mass is the highest form of worship; not because of anything I do, but because Jesus offers Himself to the Father. I get to take part in that and offer myself also.

Aso to receive Jesus Himself in the Eucharist. What else can you say? Wow!

While the readings and the homily and the singing can be bonus material, they, like the lack of distractions, are immaterial to what is going on— that supreme sacrifice of Jesus, being made present once again.

42 posted on 01/08/2013 12:44:52 PM PST by shurwouldluv_a_smallergov
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To: NYer

“once” is used several times in Hebrews. (Douay-Rheims translation)

Hebrews 7:27
Who needeth not daily (as the other priests) to offer sacrifices first for his own sins, and then for the people’s: for this he did once, in offering himself.
Hebrews 7:26-28 (in Context) Hebrews 7 (Whole Chapter)

Hebrews 9:7
But into the second, the high priest alone, once a year: not without blood, which he offereth for his own, and the people’s ignorance:
Hebrews 9:6-8 (in Context) Hebrews 9 (Whole Chapter)

Hebrews 9:12
Neither by the blood of goats, or of calves, but by his own blood, entered once into the holies, having obtained eternal redemption.
Hebrews 9:11-13 (in Context) Hebrews 9 (Whole Chapter)

Hebrews 9:26
For then he ought to have suffered often from the beginning of the world: but now once at the end of ages, he hath appeared for the destruction of sin, by the sacrifice of himself.
Hebrews 9:25-27 (in Context) Hebrews 9 (Whole Chapter)

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this the judgment:
Hebrews 9:26-28 (in Context) Hebrews 9 (Whole Chapter)

Hebrews 9:28
So also Christ was offered once to exhaust the sins of many; the second time he shall appear without sin to them that expect him unto salvation.
Hebrews 9:27-28 (in Context) Hebrews 9 (Whole Chapter)

Hebrews 10:2
For then they would have ceased to be offered: because the worshippers once cleansed should have no conscience of sin any longer:
Hebrews 10:1-3 (in Context) Hebrews 10 (Whole Chapter)

Hebrews 10:10
In the which will, we are sanctified by the oblation of the body of Jesus Christ once.
Hebrews 10:9-11 (in Context) Hebrews 10 (Whole Chapter)


43 posted on 01/08/2013 3:58:43 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: NYer

The “sacrifice of the Mass” does NOT need to occur over and over again.

Only the LORD’S Supper need to be repeated on a regular basis.

P.S. I went to Mass every Sunday for many many years.

Jesus only died ONCE.


44 posted on 01/08/2013 4:01:20 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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FWIW, I think this video from Bishop Sheen is most inspiring and informative:

Bishop Fulton Sheen: The Meaning of the Mass

45 posted on 01/08/2013 5:08:59 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fishtank

Unless I am misunderstanding your post, you are misunderstanding, or not aware of, the Church teaching on the Mass and the Holy Eucharist as it concerns Our Savior’s death on the cross.

If you have time, the previously posted videos by Bishop Sheen offer a fairly complete view.


46 posted on 01/08/2013 6:54:10 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Or this shorter article would be quicker..

"Once for all"
The Catholic Church specifically says Christ does not die again—his death is once for all. It would be something else if the Church were to claim he does die again, but it doesn’t make that claim. Through his intercessory ministry in heaven and through the Mass, Jesus continues to offer himself to his Father as a living sacrifice, and he does so in what the Church specifically states is "an unbloody manner"—one that does not involve a new crucifixion.

47 posted on 01/08/2013 8:38:45 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fishtank
Ooops, meant to post this to you..

This shorter article would be quicker..

"Once for all"
The Catholic Church specifically says Christ does not die again—his death is once for all. It would be something else if the Church were to claim he does die again, but it doesn’t make that claim. Through his intercessory ministry in heaven and through the Mass, Jesus continues to offer himself to his Father as a living sacrifice, and he does so in what the Church specifically states is "an unbloody manner"—one that does not involve a new crucifixion.

The Institution of the Mass


48 posted on 01/08/2013 8:42:44 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Great post, thanks!


49 posted on 01/09/2013 6:00:41 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: D-fendr

Hi. I was RCC for a loooong time....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2327607/posts?page=13#13

“On my Catholic education:

8 years Catholic grade school

4 years Catholic high school

Weekly CCD classes by quite conservative Novus Ordo RCC priest

Parents subscribed to National Catholic Register, the Wanderer, Fidelity and The Remnant, and I read them while growing up.

I subscribed to Fidelity and Remnant in undergrad college and never stopped contending against modernism in the Catholic Church.”


50 posted on 01/09/2013 9:40:56 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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