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Next pope will be African according to odds from Irish bookmaker
Irish Central ^ | 08/2012 | By PATRICK COUNIHAN

Posted on 01/11/2013 2:37:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The next pope is very likely to be African according to Paddy Power, Ireland’s leading bookmaker, who has come out with a list of “papabile,” those considered papal material.

The list comes at a time of increased health problems for Pope Benedict, who, at 85, has begun using a cane and is appearing more frail.

Favorite is Cardinal Francis Arinze of Nigeria, who is 15/8 (bet eight to win fifteen), while in second place is Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana at 9/4.

That’s two top Africans in the top two spots according to the bookmaker’s odds.

In third place in the odds is Archbishop Angelo Scola of Venice at 7/1 while in fourth is Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiago of Honduras at 10/1 while Cardinal Albert Malcolm Ranjith at 33.1 rounds out the top five.

Rinze was considered papabile in 2005 when Benedict was elected, and he now has Benedict’s old job within the Vatican.

Against him is his age, he is almost 80 and may be too old when Benedict passes Cardinal Turkson is only 64, born to a Methodist mother and Catholic father, and has said that "if God would wish to see a black man also as pope, thanks be to God.” The Catholic Church chronicler Rocco Palmo called Turkson the lone Scripture scholar in the Pope's "Senate" and believes that his status as a potential "papabile" has been elevated due to his appointment as spokesman for Second Synod for Africa in 2009.

Three recent popes have come from the Venice archdiocese which makes Cardinal Scola an automatic favorite as the top Italian. Church experts say the best outsider is Cardinal Marc Ouellet from Canada who handled the recent Eucharistic Conference in Dublin.


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: african; catholic; pope

1 posted on 01/11/2013 2:37:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I am going with Sheldon Cooper on this one: The odds favor the next Pontiff being named “mohammed Lee.”


2 posted on 01/11/2013 2:40:24 PM PST by freedumb2003 (MOLON LABE)
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To: SeekAndFind
CARDINAL FRANCIS ARINZE OF NIGERIA



CARDINAL PETER KODWO APPIAH TURKSON OF GHANA

3 posted on 01/11/2013 2:40:49 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It will be “Peter the Roman”


4 posted on 01/11/2013 2:41:09 PM PST by Edgar3 (Don't THREAD on me!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, wasn’t that the line for the current Pope. I suspect the Irish aren’t certain if Austria is in Africa or not.


5 posted on 01/11/2013 2:42:47 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It does not matter what he is as long as he eats away at the legacy of Vatican II with its clown masses and guitar-playing hippie freaks.


6 posted on 01/11/2013 2:42:50 PM PST by Buddy Sorrell ( John Boehner is our Pierre Laval. We need a Charles DeGaulle.)
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To: SeekAndFind

should be interesting if it comes to pass.

How does THE WON deal with THE OTHER WON?


7 posted on 01/11/2013 2:43:04 PM PST by LadyBuck (Strangeways, here we come....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can they wait for the current one to pass away before making odds?

As an outsider to the Catholic church, I do think it would be cool if they picked one of the Bishops from China, a real one, not one the Communist Party appointed. It would send a strong message, I think.


8 posted on 01/11/2013 2:44:17 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

These are the same bishops they trotted out last time.


9 posted on 01/11/2013 2:48:22 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: SeekAndFind

The African Methodists are saving the Methodist church from itself. If it weren’t for them, gay marriage would have been approved. I don’t know about Catholics, but the African Methodists are way more conservative than their brethren in the US.


10 posted on 01/11/2013 2:51:59 PM PST by Montanabound
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems to be the fad.


11 posted on 01/11/2013 2:52:09 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

“They” is the bookmakers, not the Vatican. I’d be surprised if it was any one of these.

BXVI has appointed a number of new cardinals (from everywhere), so that the majority by the time of picking the new Pope will probably be pretty conservative. Beyond that, I don’t know.

I do think it may be an English-speaker, but that could be anybody from a Brit to an American to an African to an Indian. I don’t think it will be an Italian, no matter what.


12 posted on 01/11/2013 2:55:23 PM PST by livius
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To: JCBreckenridge

“Trotted out”, that’s a funny way to put it. Makes me imagine the bishops are stored up in the attic, with dropcloths over them to keep the dust off until it’s time to pick a new pope.


13 posted on 01/11/2013 2:57:11 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind
PETRUS ROMANUS: THE FINAL POPE IS HERE:

14 posted on 01/11/2013 2:58:56 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: freedumb2003

I seem to recall a “prophecy” from “someone”, that the next Pope, will be the last Pope.

Anyone else have more info on this?


15 posted on 01/11/2013 2:59:20 PM PST by Paisan
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To: Edgar3

The last Pope?


16 posted on 01/11/2013 3:00:19 PM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: Paisan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes


17 posted on 01/11/2013 3:06:05 PM PST by EEGator
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To: bmwcyle
The last Pope?

From what I've read.
18 posted on 01/11/2013 3:16:19 PM PST by Edgar3 (Don't THREAD on me!)
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To: Edgar3

I was in Rome. I saw the list on the wall. That name you posted was the last.


19 posted on 01/11/2013 3:24:11 PM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cardinal Francis Arinze of Nigeria was the African favorite last time.


20 posted on 01/11/2013 3:27:18 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: EEGator

grazie


21 posted on 01/11/2013 3:27:51 PM PST by Paisan
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To: livius

I think these people ought to shut-up. I remain praying our beloved Pope Benedict XVI lives 120 happy, healthy years.


22 posted on 01/11/2013 3:29:58 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Paisan

Prego.


23 posted on 01/11/2013 3:30:23 PM PST by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind
Cardinal Francis Arinze is a Holy and good man. He would make a great Pope! Long live Benedict XVI!
24 posted on 01/11/2013 3:31:02 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have a lot of respect for somebody who comes from a place where being a Catholic (or any kind of Christian) isn’t easy.


25 posted on 01/11/2013 3:33:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Doubtful and african will be the pope renamed “Peter the Roman.”


26 posted on 01/11/2013 3:38:39 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Edgar3
It will be “Peter the Roman”

Bill Clinton?...

Oh Wait a minute that's "the Roman' Peter"...

27 posted on 01/11/2013 3:43:32 PM PST by apillar
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To: Boogieman

“As an outsider to the Catholic church, I do think it would be cool if they picked one of the Bishops from China, a real one, not one the Communist Party appointed. It would send a strong message, I think.”

They won’t. The Underground Catholic Church is severely persecuted. Those are the saints and martyrs of this age along with so many others.

Bringing the Patriotic Catholic Church (read State Church) back into the fold is the goal along with protecting the underground. There are many faithful clergy and laity in the State church who need to be given the strength and courage to disavow the Communists, but not now. This is a very slow process, very delicate and very much based on safeguarding as many as can be saved.

There have been several Patriotic Church clergy arrested for not adhering to the Communist line over the past couple of years.

One has to remember that the Chinese Communists will not act with restraint in any manner when threatened.

One young underground priest arrested last January was forced to stand in a water filled cell, no shoes in freezing weather. There are many narratives of brutal beatings and persecution along with murder (execution).

The Catholic Church can move glacially slowly but with reason.

An African priest? Maybe. I’ve known some extraordinarily gifted African priests with great charisms from the Holy Spirit. A reclamation of the American Catholics might come about from their gifts.


28 posted on 01/11/2013 4:06:14 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Boogieman

The media repeated this story for the same tired bishops for the last 15 years.

These were supposed to be the bishops last time, same ones, but nobody picked Benedict, one of the few cardinals not chosen by Pope John Paul II.

I’m sure they will be wrong again.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 4:11:42 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

It is amusing, isn’t it?

I’m sure the Holy Spirit can’t be second-guessed and that is what the media don’t understand.


30 posted on 01/11/2013 4:19:53 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: JCBreckenridge

Yep, the names sure are familiar. The media is probably trying to push a minority candidate for some “social justice” agenda. Though, in fairness, all of these guys are probably more qualified for the job than a first term Senator would be qualified to be President.


31 posted on 01/11/2013 4:40:26 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: OpusatFR

Sure, I can understand that there are practical concerns why the church wants to be careful and not poke the hungry dragon with a stick. Sometimes I just get sick of everyone playing patty cake with the evil regimes, and wish we would all show more backbone in opposing them.


32 posted on 01/11/2013 4:49:36 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

They look like two cornball brothers to me.


33 posted on 01/11/2013 5:09:47 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: onyx
I think these people ought to shut-up. I remain praying our beloved Pope Benedict XVI lives 120 happy, healthy years.
I'm with you, onyx. Wouldn't that be awesome?
34 posted on 01/11/2013 5:43:00 PM PST by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Doesn’t surprise me. I think Cardinal Arinze would make a wonderful Pope. He’s certainly serious about the Faith.


35 posted on 01/11/2013 5:58:21 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Edgar3
It will be “Peter the Roman”

And that name would have to change quickly.

36 posted on 01/11/2013 6:39:03 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: SeekAndFind; a fool in paradise

It’ll be Shaykuawan I !


37 posted on 01/11/2013 6:43:24 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Boogieman

Unfortunately the media knows very little about their theology, and very much more about their appearances.

Benedict has been a phenomenal pope. It is not often you find yourself staring at a problem and realizing that the Pope is staring at the same problem. And takes steps to address it.


38 posted on 01/11/2013 8:53:36 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Yeah, I like him too, he is a pretty solid thinker, and more importantly, he has the backbone to say what needs to be said.


39 posted on 01/12/2013 8:32:15 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Revolting cat!

Mohammad The First.


40 posted on 01/12/2013 3:05:38 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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