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To: rusty schucklefurd

i can see evidence for both views, pre, and in the middle of the tribulation. i personally see more for the latter than the former.

my own personal views are if pretrib is right, i will happily accept it. if not i know i’ll either die fighting or be going upwards at the midpoint.

rev3:10 also supports an later rapture as the word most often translated “from” (from the hour of temptation) can also be translated “through”.

I also think of Noah. Noah and his family were not raptured out of the worldwide flood, they were kicked around all over by the largest torrents and storms ever to hit the earth, they were carried through their tribulation.


10 posted on 01/13/2013 9:54:49 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"rev3:10 also supports an later rapture as the word most often translated “from” (from the hour of temptation) can also be translated “through”."

Rev 3:10 also supports a pre-trib rapture because sometimes "from" actually means from.

Also in Rev 3 The church that "hast kept the word of my patience" has "before thee an open door, and no man can shut it" and "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation"

Whilst the church that thinks it has everything has "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock"..ie:the door is not open and no man shut it.

Psalm 27:5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.

21 posted on 01/13/2013 11:11:05 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Secret Agent Man
Noah and his family are a picture of Israel, which will be preserved through the Tribulation.

The picture of the church is Enoch who, as God tells us, was a righteous man who walked with God and was "raptured" before the flood.

31 posted on 01/14/2013 1:32:13 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta (In the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: Secret Agent Man

Since Noah’s family was the only small group of people left alive on the earth, in a sense we ALL were on that ark with them, in the seed of their mortal bodies - we had to have been. - Irvin Baxter has an interesting program (End of the Age) on Bible prophecy on the Christian programming tv channels during the week; he also has changed his thinking on this rapture timing. Not that it matters; but for sure, counting on things to go as we plan isn’t advisable. Of course, we are to pray to “escape all these things that must soon come to pass”, but that may possibly just mean to be held up through whatever comes.


35 posted on 01/14/2013 2:48:47 AM PST by Twinkie (The earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof; the world and they that dwell therein. Ps. 24:1)
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