I’ve said in on other threads today- but I’ll say it here too- there’s a very powerful delusion sweeping across thsi nation (and world really), and i’m beginnign to wonder if this is the time that God talked abotu in His word when He said that He would send strong delusions so that the people beleive the lies they are told
Standign back fro mthe fray- and just watchign everythign goign down so rapidly, you have to wonder how we coudl go from such a strong moral nation to an imoral one in a mattyer of a few short years, and watchign all the icnredible assaults on our constitutional rights, you have to wonder how people can fall for the lies- it should be so obvious to them that they vow to take a stand agaisnt the blatant lies, but the people are loving hte lies- and hte left is revelling i nthe fact that the peopel have fallen or these lies-
You really have to wonder if This isn’t the ‘powerful strong delusions the bible speaks of in the end times
Christianity in ANY flavor is based on the Old Testament as well as the New. Christ said he came to fulfill the scriptures, not destroy them. And the God of Israel made very clear what he thought of Sodomites and other perverts.
And sexual perversions like homosexuality are totally incompatible with Christianity or orthodox Judaism.
Consider the lament of Juvenal, who lived circa 100 AD, but was evidently unaware of the budding religion of Christianity:
O father of our city, whence came such wickedness among thy Latin shepherds? How did such a lust possess thy grandchildren, O Gradivus?
He was “conservative”, and his views are largely discounted on this basis in our day ( well ... he was anti-gay ! ). He further opined, after describing a privately performed “gay marriage”, that “If we live long enough, we shall see these things done openly.” Of course, he was assuming a continuous evolution of Roman culture. Little could he have imagined that this would come true 2000 years in the future.
I’m just waiting for his Satires to be banned and supressed.
As I said in another thread, our mistake was sitting back and letting the ECUSA, ELCA, PCUSA get ensnared -- we thought it wouldn't affect us, but now the media goes "oh, they accept homosexuality, why don't you?"
Liberal Christians = those Christians who bend God's laws
Christians who bend God's laws are no longer Christians
So....there is no such thing. I'm tired of having the "loving and tolerant" thing beating me over the head. I'm not a loving and tolerant Christian, I'm a PO'd Christian. And I believe Christ himself would be a little PO'd at what is going on now. Money changers are nothing compared to he would encounter in the "temple" today. If he was angry then, He would be furious now! I don't picture a loving and tolerant Christ today, I picture a furious Christ.
“With the government set to debate gay marriage...”
If you agree that there can be a ‘debate’ about gay marriage, I think you are ceding the point that the state has the power to create something called ‘gay marriage’ if it wanted to. This is an indication that many have been conditioned to think that marriage comes from and is defined by the state.
The definition of marriage the state uses to recognize the institution is whatever judges, pols, or 51% of the voting public think it can be at any one time. That’s it, that’s all it will ever be in the modern era. It was always a danger that it woud depart from the actual definition, indeed some faiths will never accept remarriage after civil divorce, while the state has already done so for many, many years.
‘Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.’
—Pope Leo XIII, 1880
A true Evangelical will NOT except what is NOT in the BIBLE.
Assembly of God Evangelical CHRISTian!
Really? What about Matthew 19:4-5 (emphasis added)? And He answered and said to them, Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh? Does he call this "nothing"?
Also known as the “Emergent Church Movement” heresy.
The left and the libertarians have the voting block of the Evangelicals standing in the way of their total victory over Christian opposition.
“It claims to have over 540 members of whom 82% are open members whose names are listed on the site. Other members have opted to remain confidential because they are concerned that their public support would put them at risk of prejudice or discrimination. “
Or of not getting tithing donations from folks who (SHOCK! GASP!) that the Holy Bible actually means what it says it means.
“Amongst the open members are Benny Hazlehurst (pictured), who acts as secretary to the group, former Eden Baptist minister Roy Clements, Courage founder Jeremy Marks, Ekklesia co-director Simon Barrow, post-evangelical Dave Tomlinson and Oasis Trust founder Steve Chalke.”
I can honestly say I have no memory of ever hearing of anyone of them. That’s why I stick to the likes of R.C. Sproul, John MacArthur, Douglas Wilson and John Piper. Unless the preacher proudly and openly declares and preaches his belief in the inerrancy of the Bible in its original manuscripts, I do not have time for his preaching. This life is just too short.
Ok, can someone answer me this then:
Evangelicals teach that all you have to do to be “saved” is to believe in Jesus. Works don’t mean anything.
So, to the Evangelicals, why does being gay matter at all since you teach it’s just all about believing?? If these people “believe”, what’s the issue?
I could see this being an issue to religions that teach that works make a difference.