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1 posted on 01/15/2013 11:10:40 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

I’ve said in on other threads today- but I’ll say it here too- there’s a very powerful delusion sweeping across thsi nation (and world really), and i’m beginnign to wonder if this is the time that God talked abotu in His word when He said that He would send strong delusions so that the people beleive the lies they are told

Standign back fro mthe fray- and just watchign everythign goign down so rapidly, you have to wonder how we coudl go from such a strong moral nation to an imoral one in a mattyer of a few short years, and watchign all the icnredible assaults on our constitutional rights, you have to wonder how people can fall for the lies- it should be so obvious to them that they vow to take a stand agaisnt the blatant lies, but the people are loving hte lies- and hte left is revelling i nthe fact that the peopel have fallen or these lies-

You really have to wonder if This isn’t the ‘powerful strong delusions the bible speaks of in the end times


2 posted on 01/15/2013 11:16:03 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Morgana

Christianity in ANY flavor is based on the Old Testament as well as the New. Christ said he came to fulfill the scriptures, not destroy them. And the God of Israel made very clear what he thought of Sodomites and other perverts.

And sexual perversions like homosexuality are totally incompatible with Christianity or orthodox Judaism.


5 posted on 01/15/2013 11:51:55 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: Morgana

Consider the lament of Juvenal, who lived circa 100 AD, but was evidently unaware of the budding religion of Christianity:

O father of our city, whence came such wickedness among thy Latin shepherds? How did such a lust possess thy grandchildren, O Gradivus?

He was “conservative”, and his views are largely discounted on this basis in our day ( well ... he was anti-gay ! ). He further opined, after describing a privately performed “gay marriage”, that “If we live long enough, we shall see these things done openly.” Of course, he was assuming a continuous evolution of Roman culture. Little could he have imagined that this would come true 2000 years in the future.

I’m just waiting for his Satires to be banned and supressed.


7 posted on 01/16/2013 12:06:49 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: Morgana; lightman; madison10; Belteshazzar; CottShop
This is a continuous attack on all Christian groups. They want us to believe that "accepting homosexuality" is the new "progressive" thing

As I said in another thread, our mistake was sitting back and letting the ECUSA, ELCA, PCUSA get ensnared -- we thought it wouldn't affect us, but now the media goes "oh, they accept homosexuality, why don't you?"

10 posted on 01/16/2013 1:13:16 AM PST by Cronos (Middle English prest, priest, Old English pruost, Late Latin presbyter, Latin presbuteros)
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To: Morgana
"Loving and tolerant Christians"
Loving and tolerant = liberal

Liberal Christians = those Christians who bend God's laws

Christians who bend God's laws are no longer Christians

So....there is no such thing. I'm tired of having the "loving and tolerant" thing beating me over the head. I'm not a loving and tolerant Christian, I'm a PO'd Christian. And I believe Christ himself would be a little PO'd at what is going on now. Money changers are nothing compared to he would encounter in the "temple" today. If he was angry then, He would be furious now! I don't picture a loving and tolerant Christ today, I picture a furious Christ.

12 posted on 01/16/2013 6:09:46 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: Morgana

“With the government set to debate ‘gay marriage’...”

If you agree that there can be a ‘debate’ about gay marriage, I think you are ceding the point that the state has the power to create something called ‘gay marriage’ if it wanted to. This is an indication that many have been conditioned to think that marriage comes from and is defined by the state.

The definition of marriage the state uses to recognize the institution is whatever judges, pols, or 51% of the voting public think it can be at any one time. That’s it, that’s all it will ever be in the modern era. It was always a danger that it woud depart from the actual definition, indeed some faiths will never accept remarriage after civil divorce, while the state has already done so for many, many years.

‘Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.’

—Pope Leo XIII, 1880

Freegards


13 posted on 01/16/2013 6:33:12 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Morgana

A true Evangelical will NOT except what is NOT in the BIBLE.

Assembly of God Evangelical CHRISTian!


15 posted on 01/16/2013 7:13:42 AM PST by GailA ( those who do not keep promises to the Military, won't keep them to U)
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To: Morgana
Jesus said nothing about the issue

Really? What about Matthew 19:4-5 (emphasis added)? And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? Does he call this "nothing"?

16 posted on 01/16/2013 7:14:51 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Morgana

Also known as the “Emergent Church Movement” heresy.


17 posted on 01/16/2013 7:46:34 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Morgana

The left and the libertarians have the voting block of the Evangelicals standing in the way of their total victory over Christian opposition.


25 posted on 01/16/2013 2:32:54 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: Morgana

“It claims to have over 540 members of whom 82% are open members whose names are listed on the site. Other members have opted to remain ‘confidential’ because they ‘are concerned that their public support would put them at risk of prejudice or discrimination‘. “

Or of not getting tithing donations from folks who (SHOCK! GASP!) that the Holy Bible actually means what it says it means.

“Amongst the ‘open members’ are Benny Hazlehurst (pictured), who acts as secretary to the group, former Eden Baptist minister Roy Clements, ‘Courage’ founder Jeremy Marks, Ekklesia co-director Simon Barrow, ‘post-evangelical’ Dave Tomlinson and Oasis Trust founder Steve Chalke.”

I can honestly say I have no memory of ever hearing of anyone of them. That’s why I stick to the likes of R.C. Sproul, John MacArthur, Douglas Wilson and John Piper. Unless the preacher proudly and openly declares and preaches his belief in the inerrancy of the Bible in its original manuscripts, I do not have time for his preaching. This life is just too short.


29 posted on 01/17/2013 5:33:01 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Morgana

Ok, can someone answer me this then:

Evangelicals teach that all you have to do to be “saved” is to believe in Jesus. Works don’t mean anything.

So, to the Evangelicals, why does being gay matter at all since you teach it’s just all about believing?? If these people “believe”, what’s the issue?

I could see this being an issue to religions that teach that works make a difference.


30 posted on 01/17/2013 8:50:28 AM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: Morgana; All
And sexual perversions like homosexuality are totally incompatible with Christianity or orthodox Judaism.

This by far understates the issue. Homosexuality is incompatible with humanity.

I'm talking about homosexual activity, not how someone labels themselves. Homosexual activity is just a sign of a greater ill in society.

Homosexuality at it's base is selfish and a weakness. There's a whole list of attributes that go with this behavior.

I do not believe God destroyed Sodom because He lost His temper. But because like a cancer that behavior ate away at that city till there was no chance anyone would come back. Therefore to save future generations from that fate, He destroyed Sodom.

What you're seeing is a sign of the times. The whole world is going down that path. And once it gets there, it will be lost.
32 posted on 01/17/2013 11:16:46 AM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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