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To: marshmallow
God is everywhere, we just need the eyes to see. Everything is God - it cannot be otherwise. That's what "infinite" means. People who don't grasp this are like people who look at all of the jewelry in a store and classify it by it's shape and purpose and design, rather than the single fact that it's all made out of gold. God is like the gold. God is what Creation is made out of - it can't be otherwise. before Creation, there was only God. So Creation was made "out of" God. Creation is God "being" Creation.

Jesus could look straight at that and see God in everything, and everyone, everywhere. For Jesus, in a sense, there was no Creation - there was just God. So looking at Jesus was "seeing God," since Jesus recognized no difference betweeen Himself and God.

In a sense, therefore, all spirituality is to regain that vision of God. On the other hand, that visionis not seen with physical eyes, and these words are merely metaphor for an experience so profound that the former person ceases to exist who has it, and a new person is born from the vision. Nevertheless, while we change through our perception of God, God does not change through our perception of God. And neither does God's infinity change due to our experience of it, or our lack of experience of it.

24 posted on 01/16/2013 2:22:14 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
“God is everywhere, we just need the eyes to see”. True. but “everything is God”. false. I believe that is called Pantheism if I'm not mistaken. Let me ask you, if God is everything, is he an idol? Is he a child molester? If answer is no, than God is not everything. If I missed your point by getting hung up on your first few sentences or misunderstood your meaning, maybe you could rephrase it.
31 posted on 01/16/2013 11:29:46 PM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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