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The Sin That Brought The Flood...Genesis 6 pt 5
http://billrandles.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/the-sin-that-brought-the-flood-genesis-6-pt-5/ ^ | 1-28-13 | Bill Randles

Posted on 01/26/2013 7:20:52 PM PST by pastorbillrandles

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.(Genesis 6:1-3)

The signs of the day of Noah that we have discussed earlier; the population explosion, rapid progress in science, technology and the arts, the complete disregard for the primal law of marriage, the blurring of distinction between the lines of the godly and the godless, as well as the rejection of the preaching of Judgment and repentance by Seth, Enoch,Methuselah and Lamech, and the increasing phenomenon of universal violence had come to a head.

God had allowed conditions on earth to be such that people lived hundreds of years on earth. But increasingly, those years were almost universally lived out in a state of God rejection, evil practices, and as a society, an incredible, exponentially growing accumulation of evil. The dark “wisdom” of people who lived for hundreds of years was passed on to each generation, until men and women became hardened beyond any recovery.

But Genesis 6 records a new stage in the progress of evil, something so terrible it is almost impossible to contemplate. Sinful humanity, schooled in dark wisdom, broke through the barrier to communion between fallen Angels and God estranged humanity.

We are told that the “Sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair, and took of them wives…”.

The phrase, the “Sons of God” is a reference to Angels, fallen or otherwise, as recorded here in Job, which is believed to be the oldest book of the Bible;

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.(Job 1:6-7)

It was at the mention of this dark and mysterious development among men, that the Most High decreed a further limitation upon human life,

And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

There would no longer be hundreds of years of God rejection and accumulation of the experience and ‘wisdom’ of evil, at best, Man would be allowed 120 years to respond to the conviction and internal strivings of his Creator.

The Lord’s apostles, Jude and Peter both refer to this horrifying state of affairs,

And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.(Jude 6-7)

Jude likens the Angels which left their own God assigned state, to Sodomites who go “after strange flesh”. Both sins consist of the unnatural joining of the that which God separates, and both bring violent and everlasting punishment.

Peter also referenced this sin, linking it to Noah, the flood and Sodom and Gommorah.

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;(2 Peter 2:4-6)

Both apostles emphasize the immediacy and ferocity of the Divine Judgment which fell upon these Angels and those who participated with them. The flood, and the fact that those very Angels are presently in chains in a hellish prison, though the time for the judgment o the rest of the fallen Angels has not yet come, testifies to the seriousness of this sin.

But consider our day also, which is rapidly proving to be “As in the days of Noah and Lot”. How many Hollywood Movies have had as their theme the intercourse, spiritual and otherwise, of Angels and men.

Popular abominations such as “The City of Angels” starring Nicholas Cage, have as their theme romantic interplay between an Angel of God,(who leaves his first estate because he falls in Love with one of the fair daughters of men, sacrificing his own immortality), could have been lifted right off of the pages of Genesis.*

These movies are popular because they reflect aspirations among people for such things, Angel movies, Super Hero movies, UFO and Alien movies all reflect the same aspiration for communion with beings above and beyond humanity, but definitely not with the God of the Bible on the terms of Calvary. This is the very sin that brought the flood which wiped out the whole world, except the eight people who were saved.

* I want you to know that I have not seen this movie nor would I ever encourage anyone to see it, such things are damning and corrupting to the soul. I read a synopsis of the movie and was stunned that there were at the same time, several other similar offerings.

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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: crazy; endtimes; jesus; judgment; nephilim

1 posted on 01/26/2013 7:21:09 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles

I am sometimes curious about what the physical world was like before the flood. Like housing, infrastructure, technology. I wonder if there was anything like computers or electronics beforehand ?


2 posted on 01/26/2013 7:50:03 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: CORedneck
Not clear if there were, but Ecclesiastes 1:10 gives one cause to wonder.
Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
And this was written by Solomon, who was given a special gift of wisdom.
3 posted on 01/26/2013 7:57:53 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: pastorbillrandles
Sinful humanity, schooled in dark wisdom, broke through the barrier to communion between fallen Angels and God estranged humanity.

I have always thought this is exactly what happened. I think the nephilim were the infernal creatures to come out of this illicit communication between mankind and fallen angels, until God wiped them out in the flood. When the New Testament says, as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be. I wonder if it means this type of human/fallen angel contact will happen again? I don't know. I wonder what others think?

4 posted on 01/26/2013 8:01:57 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: CORedneck
I am sometimes curious about what the physical world was like before the flood. Like housing, infrastructure, technology. I wonder if there was anything like computers or electronics beforehand ?

I once read a book called "Did Genesis Man Conquer Space?" They may have had things like we would not believe, but who knows for sure?

6 posted on 01/26/2013 8:08:12 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: pastorbillrandles

“For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day I have begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?” (Hebrews 1:5)

The answer: None. “Sons of God” are believers, men.

“But as many as received him to them gave he power to become sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. Which were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” (John 1:12,13)

The Bible is full of many examples where “sons of God” intermarried with the “daughters of men” (idol worshipping locals) and were turned from God to evil.


7 posted on 01/26/2013 8:13:53 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting
true, there is no where in scripture that I know of where he adressed an individual Angel, calling him,"My Son", but I have already provided an account of a gathering of the "Sons of God" which included Satan,(a fallen Angel). The Angels collectively were called "Sons of God" "Job 38"7- When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8 posted on 01/26/2013 8:22:34 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles

You can bet they were doing that yoga stuff, too! Oh,yeah!

http://www.deuceofclubs.com/books/189did_genesis_man_conquer_space.htm


9 posted on 01/26/2013 8:41:27 PM PST by procrustes (You make Free Republic look bad!)
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To: pastorbillrandles

You can bet they were doing that yoga stuff, too! Oh,yeah!

http://www.deuceofclubs.com/books/189did_genesis_man_conquer_space.htm


10 posted on 01/26/2013 8:41:27 PM PST by procrustes (You make Free Republic look bad!)
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To: pastorbillrandles

I went to your we site pastor. Very good. I read another book called The Omega Conspiracy” I think the author was I D E Thomas, but I can not remember for sure. He was talking about the “sons of God” in Genesis 6, as being fallen angels, and that those fallen angels that were involved in this instance, are now confined. When the demons asked Jesus if He came to torment them before the time, they may have been referring to those fallen angels who were involved in Genesis 6, because they remembered.


11 posted on 01/26/2013 8:43:07 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Mark17; Olog-hai

Yeah it is a definite curiosity. One day we will know. Something else that has come into mind, I wonder if this discussion of the lost continent of Atlantis points to pre-flood days as well ? On the book, “Did Genesis Man Conquer Space?”, I will have to see if I can get my hands on that book.


12 posted on 01/26/2013 9:33:20 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: pastorbillrandles

makes a lot of sense. thanks for the post.


13 posted on 01/26/2013 9:51:08 PM PST by dadfly
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To: CORedneck
I will have to see if I can get my hands on that book.

I think you can. Google it, but you probably already did.

14 posted on 01/26/2013 10:36:31 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Mark17

I wonder if it means this type of human/fallen angel contact will happen again?

Could this be the modern human/fallen angel contact?

“This incredible scenario is the plan of one of the world’s leading geneticists, who is seeking a volunteer to help bring man’s long-extinct close relative back to life...”

Excerpt from http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265402/Adventurous-human-woman-wanted-birth-Neanderthal-man-Harvard-professor.html


15 posted on 01/26/2013 11:20:24 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Mark17

Zacharia Sitchen addressed these issues in his studies of the Sumerians. Now the Bible has written about this and the Sumerians wrote about it before the Bible. Somewhere you have to make a decision on what you want to believe. Nothing today relates.


16 posted on 01/26/2013 11:27:42 PM PST by juma (What i s the real answer ? Does anyone Know ?)
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To: Mark17

“When the New Testament says, as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be. I wonder if it means this type of human/fallen angel contact will happen again?”

Well, if you read that NT verse in context, it is talking about the situation where nobody in Noah’s day heeded his warnings, and just continued eating, drinking, and being merry right up until the heavens opened up. It’s possible that there is a second analogy implied, after all, we know that the fallen angels will make a reappearance during the End Times. However, the plainest reading of the text doesn’t make that specific implication.


17 posted on 01/26/2013 11:34:01 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Mark17

Yes, as best as I can figure by studying the Bible, the fallen angels who bred with men pre-flood (and probably post-flood as well), were imprisoned in what is called the “bottomless pit”. These seem to be a different set of angels from the ones who rebel with Satan against God. In Revelation, the bottomless pit is opened, and its inhabitants, depicted prophetically as locusts, are loosed upon the earth.


18 posted on 01/26/2013 11:45:37 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: stars & stripes forever

“Could this be the modern human/fallen angel contact?”

Too bad Quix skeedaddled, he thought the “alien abduction” phenomenon was fallen angels, possibly attempting to breed with men again, while laying the groundwork for an end times deception that they were messengers of peace and goodwill.


19 posted on 01/26/2013 11:48:10 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: pastorbillrandles
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

1 saw that the tree was good for food
2 that it was pleasant to the eyes
3 a tree to be desired to make one wise

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

1 sons of God saw the daughters of men
2 they were fair
3 took them wives of all which they chose

Some would say Satan's attempt to thwart the seed of the woman from coming as Satan attacks woman kind. The human race was contaminated and " Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations"

20 posted on 01/26/2013 11:50:09 PM PST by the_daug
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To: Boogieman
Well, if you read that NT verse in context, it is talking about the situation where nobody in Noah’s day heeded his warnings, and just continued eating, drinking, and being merry right up until the heavens opened up.

That is kind of my opinion too, that nobody is heeding God's warning, and are just continuing in their own little world. It's kind of like today, isn't it? It looks like not too many are paying attention.

21 posted on 01/27/2013 1:04:28 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Boogieman
"However, the plainest reading of the text doesn’t make that specific implication."

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark (Mat 24:38)

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. (Gen 6:2)

22 posted on 01/27/2013 2:15:55 AM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Boogieman
"However, the plainest reading of the text doesn’t make that specific implication."

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark (Mat 24:38)

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. (Gen 6:2)

23 posted on 01/27/2013 2:16:02 AM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: pastorbillrandles
Josephus: Book 1 Chapter 3 1. NOW this posterity of Seth continued to esteem God as the Lord of the universe, and to have an entire regard to virtue, for seven generations; but in process of time they were perverted, and forsook the practices of their forefathers; and did neither pay those honors to God which were appointed them, nor had they any concern to do justice towards men. But for what degree of zeal they had formerly shown for virtue, they now showed by their actions a double degree of wickedness, whereby they made God to be their enemy. For many angels (11) of God accompanied with women, and begat sons that proved unjust, and despisers of all that was good, on account of the confidence they had in their own strength; for the tradition is, that these men did what resembled the acts of those whom the Grecians call giants. But Noah was very uneasy at what they did; and being displeased at their conduct, persuaded them to change their dispositions and their acts for the better: but seeing they did not yield to him, but were slaves to their wicked pleasures, he was afraid they would kill him, together with his wife and children, and those they had married; so he departed out of that land. footnote: 11) This notion, that the fallen angels were, in some sense, the fathers of the old giants, was the constant opinion of antiquity.
24 posted on 01/27/2013 2:17:33 AM PST by Ymani Cricket ("It is my experience that Senators focus only on pleasing those who fund their campaigns" Obi-Wan)
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To: Mark17; Boogieman
"...that nobody is heeding God's warning, and are just continuing in their own little world. It's kind of like today, isn't it? It looks like not too many are paying attention."

Probably very similar indeed!

However,the more I think about it the more that "sons of God" keeps standing out and the fact that Jesus specifically mentions marriage sounds almost provocative considering 1st:the sons of God specifically took "wives for themselves" not just daughters,women etc but "wives" and 2nd: the obsession these days with alien intelligences,supernatural themes and entities,paranormal,new age conciousness etc etc etc ad nauseum.It seems a lot of modern culture spends a lot of time attempting to contact supernatural beings.And that without acknowledging God at all,in fact in a lot of cases in outright hostility towards Jesus Christ and the Bible.

I can't help thinking it actually is more than just a little implicit.

25 posted on 01/27/2013 2:29:58 AM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: pastorbillrandles

The world was created “good,” as was man. The evil that followed the entry of sin into the heart of man will never be eradicated. Ungodly governments spend all the their citizens money trying to re-create Eden, but they are doomed to failure. Societies without God are festering garbage dumps, the blind leading the blind.


26 posted on 01/27/2013 2:45:05 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Boogieman

Mat 24:37-40
(37) But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
(38) For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
(39) And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
(40) Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

A fairly standard minimal interpretation of Matt 24:38 emphasizes the thinking of man was upon daily carnal living void of spiritual life with God.


27 posted on 01/27/2013 3:17:38 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Volumes have been written in academia on the topic, especially from the turn of the century (1900’s) and with the rise of Dispensationalism.

Euhemerism focused upon the premise that mythology had some basis in historical fact, but studied to what extent it may have been factual vs allegorical or metaphorical in meaning.

I’ve recently began reading the Books of Enoch, and they nicely indicate where much of the GAP theory details were premised.

IMHO, just as a satanic strategy has existed to destroy all of Israel, thereby defeating Prophetic promises to man from God, there also was a prior strategic goal to corrupt all flesh, also attempting to prevent the completion of God’s Plan. Gap Theory is consistent with such observed satanic strategy.

While I recognize the Books of Enoch are extra biblical, and in reading them, they lack the same food for God the Holy Spirit during their study, I find it interesting that the Apocrypha is still considered canonical in the RCC. Also interesting is that the first 12 chapters of the first Book of Enoch makes references to the Rapture on several occasions, while the RCC frequently denies the Rapture, but insists upon the canonicity of the Book of Enoch.

Revelation tells us of a demon army that will be loosed from the Euphrates in the End Times and even its leader’s name.

I’ve wondered if some US military campaigns after WWII and Korea, haven’t been driven by occultic goals to bind and loose demons in those remote lands. I’ve conversed with many a Mason who believe in Vietnam/Cambodia, Bosnia, and in Afghanistan that UFOs an alien contact was documented. Also that many angelic manifestations occurred in those areas, but not always well reported, but kept quiet. I also have observed those who are attracted to the occult describe military operations in caves, which happened to involved blood letting and appeals to the angelic domain, indicating they had ulterior occultic agendas, even where most were unaware.

If such demons were loosed, then demon possession might be much more prevalent than we attribute their behavior/presence in our culture.

As in all things, through faith in Christ we may remain on path with His Plan to be in the right place at the right time to do the right thing in the right manner. So while such things might be interesting, and worthy to consider they might exist where least expected, we still remain focused on life through faith in Christ, and don’t need the preoccupation with the occult.


28 posted on 01/27/2013 3:39:22 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: juma
Now the Bible has written about this and the Sumerians wrote about it before the Bible.

Although the Word of God existed prior to the Sumerians.

29 posted on 01/27/2013 3:45:28 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

BFL


30 posted on 01/27/2013 3:46:22 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Cvengr

“A fairly standard minimal interpretation of Matt 24:38 emphasizes the thinking of man was upon daily carnal living void of spiritual life with God.”

Interestingly, what is mentioned “eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage” are all good things when God is in the picture. The problem comes when God is not factored in - one ends up with gluttony and drunkenness, trying to become one flesh without the commitment of marriage, so-called “gay marriages”, etc.


31 posted on 01/27/2013 5:34:57 AM PST by Diapason
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To: mitch5501

Getting married is an every day event, just like eating and drinking. There’s nothing in the text that implies the marriages referred to are anything out of the ordinary. In fact, the plainest reading of the text is that marriages are used because, just like eating and drinking, they are such a completely ordinary event.

I’m not saying that it couldn’t be an additional implication, but there is really nothing to lay your finger on that points to that which isn’t more easily explained by a less extraordinary interpretation.


32 posted on 01/27/2013 8:12:13 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Diapason

I believe the emphasis is on daily living and our happiness by our own provision, as opposed to reliance on God’s Provision.


33 posted on 01/27/2013 10:19:04 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: CORedneck

**I am sometimes curious about what the physical world was like before the flood. Like housing, infrastructure, technology. I wonder if there was anything like computers or electronics beforehand ?**

Steel is the basis, directly or indirectly, of everything we call a modern convenience. No steel= no electricity, no horseless carriages, no plastics, etc.

There’s no indication that they were that far along in manufacturing before the flood.

The ‘nothing new under the sun’ implies that man hasn’t created anything from nothing. He has seen God’s creatures perform tasks that he himself cannot do, but by using them as models, has tried to duplicate their capabilities, whether it be navigating under, on, or above the surface of the earth. Outerspace? Man simply realized he had to take some air with him when getting that high.

The human brain is still the model for computers, and always has been. It is still unsurpassed in it’s capabilities. Man still hasn’t created from nothing a better living creature of any type than what God has arleady created. Man still gets excited when he finds a another species that he didn’t know existed.


34 posted on 01/27/2013 12:01:46 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: CORedneck

The pre-flood people didn’t need as much technology as us. They were stronger, faster, smarter, healthier... They certainly didn’t need medical technology. I imagine that they could live a pretty good life without all the modern things we have and so there wouldn’t be a drive to develop these technologies.


35 posted on 01/27/2013 12:54:45 PM PST by Tramonto
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To: Boogieman
Thanks for your reply.

It's certainly not something I would want to argue over but it's still an interesting possibility especially considering the inordinate amount of interest in the occult these days.You can hardly read a magazine or newspaper without seeing a deluge of ads for so-called 'phsycics/mediums' offering guidance and so on.

Having said that I think you're right that the main implication is that man is carrying on as if nothing is happening.Totally blind to what's headed his way.We certainly live in interesting times!

God bless

36 posted on 01/27/2013 1:50:01 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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