Posted on 01/29/2013 11:48:34 AM PST by pastorbillrandles
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.( Genesis 6:1-6)
We have been discussing the days of Noah, leading to the flood, which destroyed the entire World that was as a judgment of God upon the sinful world. Noah, his wife, three sons and their wives were all that were saved out of it. Jesus tells us that the last days before he returns would be As in the days of Noah.
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.(Matthew 24:37-39)
We have already discussed the manifold conditions which led up to the flood; the population explosion, rapid increase in technology,agriculture and the arts with a view to mitigating the curse without repentance, the disregard for the primal laws of marriage, the confusion of sexual roles, the exponential increase in violence, the eradication of distinction between the Godly and the ungodly, and the overall rejection of the prophetic warning.
Finally sinful humanity arrived at a new stage in the progress of evil, for some among them, dared breach the divine barrier to interaction between fallen Angel and man. This developed to the point of actual union between the daughters of men and the fallen angelic Sons of God, the Angels who kept not their first estate as the Lords apostles told us.
Scripture tells us the unthinkable, that out of the union of humans and fallen Angels came the Giants, literally the Nephilim, the fallen ones. This rebellious hybridization of the human race, mixing men and Angels(I have no idea how this was possible, but scripture teaches this), is literally the final sin that brought the flood.
These mighty ones, the Men of renown were not necessarily Giants in the sense of size. Some of them may have been gigantic indeed, as were Goliath and his brothers centuries later, but the idea is that this hybridized humanity, these Fallen ones were remarkable for power and intelligence as well as stature, they were prodigies, or heroes.
There are many who believe that figures such as the Greek and Roman gods such as Hercules,(Half man and half god), or the Titans ,Sons of Heaven and earth came from the distant human memory of these pre-flood monsters. They were famous for their exploits, feats of strength or perhaps of intelligence. But they were evil.
In our own day, the fascination of the young with Super Heroes is an ominous portent. Usually the Super Heroes are said to be good, they fight for justice . But what are we to make of the new Gay Super Hero, or of Superman a saviour Son sent to earth, found in a Barnand raised by adoptive parents.
In the trailer for the Movie,Superman, Marlon Brandos voice narrates for Supermans Father, Jor-El from outer space, commissioning his son to come into the world to allow humanity to reach its full human potential,
Even though youve been raised as a human being youre not one of them. They can be a great people, Kal-El. They wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I sent them you my only son.
Fallen humanity yearns for a humanistic salvation brought about by humanistic Saviours, men of powers, famous for their exploits, and who make no moral demands, and show no weakness, nor do they turn us back in humility to our Creator.
Whether it be the fascination with Super Heros, or the fantasy world, or apparitions of the Virgin Mary, or channeled Spirits, the Mahdi, Visualization, there is something for everyone now, for we are again in the days of Noah.
The Spiritual world has broken through to communication with the sons and daughters of men. Several decades of massive rejection of the Judeo Christian message, with the vacuum filled by an influx of Eastern Religions, the occult, Drug usage, Transcendental Meditation, Islam, and New Age spirituality has opened the door of consciousness to the invasion of evil Spirits and the frightening deception they will bring upon the world.
There are many who believe that figures such as the Greek and Roman gods such as Hercules,(Half man and half god), or the Titans ,Sons of Heaven and earth came from the distant human memory of these pre-flood monsters. They were famous for their exploits, feats of strength or perhaps of intelligence. But they were evil.
I thought about this recently when I watched an old documentary called “Chariots of the gods”. Lots of smiliar ancient paintings around the word depicting “ancient astronaughts”. Also, brilliant arcitecture in unlikley places like modern Zimbabwe.
Scripture tells us the unthinkable, that out of the union of humans and fallen Angels came the Giants, literally the Nephilim, the fallen ones. This rebellious hybridization of the human race, mixing men and Angels(I have no idea how this was possible, but scripture teaches this), is literally the final sin that brought the flood.”
The idea that the Nephilim are Angels breeding with humans comes from the Book of Enoch, not from the Bible.
No my point is that there is something to the aspiration and fascination with Superheros that is idolatrous.Not to say it is a sin to go see Batman, or Superman, but to be aware of the Spiritual nature of it. In the days of Noah, you could literally say that there were “Superheros”, the Nephilim.
No , the idea that Angels left their first estate and went after strange flesh comes from the Bible, 2 Peter and Jude. I have never read the book of Enoch and put no stock in it. I have read the inspired prophecy of Enoch recorded in Jude.
A faggot Superman certainly may be.
I know a movie I’m not going to see...
Genesis 6 term for “Sons of God” is Nephilim...the same as was in Enoch.
Given the increasing accounts of folk who feel they have been “alien abducted”, an increasing population of young folks who seem hardened to the truth and appear to have no natural conscience and I would say that the “Nephilim” may have struck again!
“....humanity yearns for a humanistic salvation brought about by humanistic ‘Saviours’...”
in more ways than one, and not only does this yearning exist, it is promoted and encouraged that people should have this yearning - as it is altogether intentional to turn human yearning AWAY from G-d
That’s correct. This entire post is based on someone’s interpretation of enoch. It is conjecture and not based on scripture. Might as well say the “giants” were aliens. I always just thought they were great men and left it at that.
I am the poster, and will not read Enoch because it is non canonical. This post is based upon Genesis Jude and 2 Peter.The Word of God does indeed tell us of the Nephilim, mighty men of renown, Giants. Is I Samuel 17(Goliath) conjecture also?
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How could He not have seen it coming?
literally the Nephilim, the fallen ones.
Nephilim, does not mean “fallen ones” but rather “Thos that came down” recommend that you read “The 12 th. Planet” by Zecharia Sitchin and specifically “There were Giants upon the Earth” same author. the book of Enoch and the Epic of Gilgamesh to, lots of evidence that support the bible here, none that take anything away, the word “Engels” actually means emissary or messenger, As mentioned in another post, Chariots of the Gods? by Eric Von Daniken have evidence to of visits in the long ago by “GODS” from extra terestial places, things that can’t be explained having been build by stoneage people, open minds and follow the evidence beats blind faith every time
I always wondered how human imagination, which to me is quite limited, had developed these ideas of Greek and Roman gods without there being some associated reality. So they must have existed, but it would seem it was a long time ago. The flood would explain where they went. God “bound” the really bad ones (200 I think?) into Tartarus.
Go to the movie theaters, we are being prepared for VERY extreme visuals, the current movies are dominated by apocalyptic scenarios, extreme violence or super natural phenomena. Satan is laying the foundation with the unknowing for his attempted takeover. Thankfully we can have faith in how this story ends.
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Non-scriptural, but a very interesting tangential hypothesis: http://www.themandus.org/
The referenced website does not make the claim that there is a link, but the similarities are intriguing.
None of those verses mention angels breeding with men. You likely based your statements on someone else's conclusions who read Enoch. Or perhaps you independently came to the same conclusion but that seems unlikely.
In any event there are differing theological interpretations of what was meant by nephilim and "sons of God". Some believe as you do. Others believe they were descendants of Seth. Some believe they were just great big men. In contrast with the tone of your post this is not established theology and there are differing interpretations. Is that fair?
It is indeed fair to say that equally sincere Christians differ on the interpretation of Genesis 6.
You got that right!
There is account of the angels leaving their first estate, and being held in’chains’. Nothing in between, other than possessing the bodies and minds of humans. If they were so smart, how come they didn’t have sea going vessels to travel to and fro before the flood? Or organize an assult on the Ark before the waters lifted it away? In the righteous cause of fairness, and equality, even Barry Obummer would have thought of that.
No, I seriously doubt that God would have been outsmarted, in mistakenly allowing the possibility of angels procreating with humans. The sons of God were most likely the religious men of the day, that were mentally and physically exceptional as well.
The carnal mind has always had the tendency to want self glorification. And when one receives it from others, the desire is increased like a drug addiction. Look at some of the oratory and musically talented ‘pastors’ of recent decades. They let themselves get lifted up with pride, some without even realizing it, cave to lust, and crash!
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