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Waiting for the hat to drop: Card. Mahony relieved of duties in Los Angeles [Catholic Caucus]
WDTPRS ^ | February 1, 2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 02/01/2013 1:51:36 PM PST by NYer

The Archbishop of Los Angeles, Most Rev. José H. Gomez, has said “Effective immediately, I have informed Cardinal Mahony that he will no longer have any administrative or public duties.” See the pdf of the letter HERE.

What this means is that His Eminence cannot be any sort of representative for the sitting Archbishop or for the Archdiocese. Canon law itself gives Cardinal some faculties. According to can. 357§2, “in those matters which pertain to their own person, cardinals living outside of Rome and outside their own diocese are exempt from the power of governance of the bishop of the diocese in which they are residing.” So, there is little that Archbp. Gomez can do, except cancel every public event in which Card. Mahony was going to play a principle part, such as confirmations.

We shall see what the happens next. It could be that this will roil and bubble for a couple weeks and then settle down. People have been thinking about Card. Mahony for a long time. So, this is not staggering news. Also, L.A. is not Boston. Card. Mahony lobbied for immigrants and migrant workers, therefore he will get a partial pass from the press and from catholic liberals such those at the National Schismatic Reporter (aka Fishwrap).

Will Mahony get a pass from Fishwrap? There is an editorial over there but it reads as if it were written and released before the news about Archbp. Gomez’s letter. Predictably, the editors of the National Schismatic Reporter take advantage of this dreadful news to bash the Holy See and Bp. Finn. The dopiest line in their piece must be this: “The most egregious and glaring example of a lack of accountability among the hierarchy is Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St. Joseph, Mo.” Say what? The “most egregious” example is Bp. Finn and not Card. Mahony? Is this L.A. or LaLa Land?

The National Schismatic Reporter, ladies and gents!

Given what has happened, I cannot see an alternative to Pope Benedict XVI removing Card. Mahony from the College of Cardinals.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: cardinal; mahony

1 posted on 02/01/2013 1:51:45 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Back in 2002, Paul Likoudis wrote a lengthy article on how certain bishops were chosen for the US.

... Jadot is still proud of some of his most notorious picks, such as Bishop Walter Sullivan of Richmond, Va., Archbishop Rembert Weakiand of Milwaukee, and Roger Cardinal Mahony of Los Angeles - to name but a few, many of whom are known more for their advocacy of homosexual rights, their protection of pederast priests, and their conunitment to modernism than to their commitment to the Church's doctrines.

Archbishop Jean Jadot, responsible for the spate of bad bishops in the US, was following a plan. It was anticipated that by appointing very young bishops (Bishop Hubbard was one of the youngest - in his 30s), they would eventually be elevated to cardinal, making them eligible to vote for a future pope. By choosing progressives, the intention was that a progressive pope would be elected who would convene Vatican Council III at which time changes initiated in VCII, would be completed, such as women priests. What Jadot failed to factor in, however, was the work of the Holy Spirit.

If Mahony is removed from the College of Cardinals, so go his voting rights. Read more at this link: Still Proud of Bishops He Gave the US

2 posted on 02/01/2013 1:58:25 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

Yes, the Holy Spirit took charge.


3 posted on 02/01/2013 2:06:28 PM PST by Shark24
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Ping!


4 posted on 02/01/2013 2:11:10 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer
Has Mahony himself, personally, violated any statues of the State of California or of the United States of America?

Viscerally, one is inclined to think he belongs in prison ... I'm just not clear on what he, himself personally, may have committed for which a secular criminal court could prosecute him.

5 posted on 02/01/2013 2:11:23 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer
Boy, that's nearly as bad as that piddly suspension a Divinis the SSPX bishops got.
6 posted on 02/01/2013 2:36:14 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: steve86
Mahony, Hubbard, Weakland, et al. did not get what they deserved.

That is injustice.

LeFebvre, Williamson, et al. deserved what they got.

That is justice.

7 posted on 02/01/2013 2:42:03 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

The ones who enabled the horrible abuses must be punished BIGTIME. I just hope this thread does not end up becoming a Catholic bashing thread.


8 posted on 02/01/2013 2:52:13 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: NYer

I waiting for LA DA file charges against Roger Mahoney they try find more victims NYER


9 posted on 02/01/2013 4:00:34 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: ArrogantBustard; steve86; RIghtwardHo; Reaganite Republican; Clintons Are White Trash; ...

“LeFebvre, Williamson, et al. deserved what they got.”

Pope Benedict lifts excommunication of bishops ordained by Lefebvre

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope_benedict_lifts_excommunication_of_bishops_ordained_by_lefebvre/

“His Holiness Benedict XVI – fatherly sensitive to the spiritual suffering expressed by those who face the sanction of excommunication” and who also trusts in the bishop’s commitment “not spare any effort to further engage in the necessary dialogue with the authorities of the Holy See over the unanswered questions…has decided to reconsider the canonical situation of bishops Bernard Fellay, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and Alfonso de Galarreta created by their episcopal consecration.”

“With this act –the decree continues- we wish to consolidate the mutual relations of trust and intensify and provide stability to the relation of the Society of St. Pius X with this Apostolic See.”

“This gift of peace, concluding the Christmas celebrations, wishes to also be a sign for promoting the unity in charity of the Universal church and to achieve the elimination of the scandal of division,” the decree states.

“We hope that this step may be followed by the caring accomplishment of the full communion with the Church of the whole Society of St. Pius X, thus witnessing true fidelity and truthful recognition of the Magisterium and the Pope’s authority with the proof of visible unity.”

“On behalf of the faculties expressly granted by the Holy Father Benedict XVI, in virtue of the current decree, I lift the censure of excommunication latae sententiae to Bishops Bernard Fellay, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and Alfonso de Galarreta declared by this Congregation on July 1, 1988, while I declare null of juridical consequences, as of today, the decree released in the past.”

The decree is signed by Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re, Prefect of the Congregation of Bishops, on January 21, 2009.


10 posted on 02/01/2013 6:11:43 PM PST by narses
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To: ArrogantBustard; steve86; RIghtwardHo; Reaganite Republican; Clintons Are White Trash; ...

“LeFebvre, Williamson, et al. deserved what they got.”

Pope Benedict lifts excommunication of bishops ordained by Lefebvre

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope_benedict_lifts_excommunication_of_bishops_ordained_by_lefebvre/

“His Holiness Benedict XVI – fatherly sensitive to the spiritual suffering expressed by those who face the sanction of excommunication” and who also trusts in the bishop’s commitment “not spare any effort to further engage in the necessary dialogue with the authorities of the Holy See over the unanswered questions…has decided to reconsider the canonical situation of bishops Bernard Fellay, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and Alfonso de Galarreta created by their episcopal consecration.”

“With this act –the decree continues- we wish to consolidate the mutual relations of trust and intensify and provide stability to the relation of the Society of St. Pius X with this Apostolic See.”

“This gift of peace, concluding the Christmas celebrations, wishes to also be a sign for promoting the unity in charity of the Universal church and to achieve the elimination of the scandal of division,” the decree states.

“We hope that this step may be followed by the caring accomplishment of the full communion with the Church of the whole Society of St. Pius X, thus witnessing true fidelity and truthful recognition of the Magisterium and the Pope’s authority with the proof of visible unity.”

“On behalf of the faculties expressly granted by the Holy Father Benedict XVI, in virtue of the current decree, I lift the censure of excommunication latae sententiae to Bishops Bernard Fellay, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and Alfonso de Galarreta declared by this Congregation on July 1, 1988, while I declare null of juridical consequences, as of today, the decree released in the past.”

The decree is signed by Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re, Prefect of the Congregation of Bishops, on January 21, 2009.


11 posted on 02/01/2013 6:12:14 PM PST by narses
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To: NYer

I would differentiate between bishops who were merely negligent, or didn’t fully understand the problem, and bishops who actually aided and abetted the homosexual invasion of the Catholic seminaries and clergy.

Rembert Weakland was certainly such a case, and he was duly punished. Cardinal Mahoney was another, from everything I have seen and read about him. He didn’t just allow abuses—he encouraged them. He deserves any punishment they give him.


12 posted on 02/01/2013 6:20:13 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NYer

I know Jadot had a major part in these bad Bishops, but I call them Bernardin’s Boys since I believe that Bernardin had something to do with their nominations also.


13 posted on 02/01/2013 6:41:27 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Mahony protected molestors, moved them around, etc. Read the first article that came up today.


14 posted on 02/01/2013 6:43:43 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Local LA morning news just said that Mahoney has issued a statement critizing Gomez for this action.


15 posted on 02/02/2013 8:26:51 AM PST by Shark24
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To: NYer
I cannot see an alternative to Pope Benedict XVI removing Card. Mahony from the College of Cardinals.

Yes. Please. He is a stain on American Catholicism.

16 posted on 02/02/2013 9:01:56 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Each time I think of the bishops of SSPX I muster no other feeling but gratitude for their courage.


17 posted on 02/02/2013 9:04:53 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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