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1 posted on 02/02/2013 7:04:07 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

answer - some will. the more liberal the denomination, the more likely they will, if they are not already paying for it.


2 posted on 02/02/2013 7:12:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: John Leland 1789

There are some things you can compromise and some you can’t.

Agreeing to pay for the killing of babies is not something that any real Christian can possibly agree to.

The line in this case is very clear.


3 posted on 02/02/2013 7:16:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: John Leland 1789
"Who cares if the Constitution says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
"
It is only stupid words on paper dwarfed by our power.
What difference does it make?"


4 posted on 02/02/2013 7:21:29 PM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: John Leland 1789

Compromise is when both sides give up something. I have yet to see Obama give up anything.


5 posted on 02/02/2013 7:21:48 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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What compromise? “My way or the highway” only means something when there IS a highway to get away from this monstrosity that is misnamed “The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2011”.

MASSIVE RESISTANCE TO ACCEPTANCE OF THE TERMS OF THIS PILE OF CRAPOLA IS THE ONLY SANE RESPONSE. That said, what effective means do we have to resist the effects of this unworkable and ineffectual piece of legislation? Escape to another country does not seem to be an option, as there are fewer and fewer places anywhere that are not also mired in their own set of cockamamie rules and counter-intuitive actions against both the will and the best interests of those subjects ensnared by such gimmicks.

First, take back responsibility for your own health. By refusing to either maintain a government-sanctioned “insurance policy” filled with mandates and exclusions, or to pay the fines imposed for refusing to participate in this fraudulent practice, there is a very real probability that at some time or another, you shall be found in violation of the law as written. But if enough people resist, there are simply not enough law enforcement officers out there to capture them all.

This is much like trying to locate all the illegal immigrants in this country, both those who came legally but overstayed their visa, or those who entered clandestinely and never had a visa at all. The job of finding them is judged to be “impossible”, so their presence is unoffically tolerated by the supposed authorities in this country. Likewise with a sufficient number of people who resist this health legislation, throwing maybe 10% or more of the population into some kind of detention is not a practical response to the problem.

There would just be a lot of hardened attitudes, and just possibly, the nucleus of the creation of a breakaway republic within that territory once known as “the United States of America”.

Secession has never been tested in a court of law as to whether it is legal or not, it has only been suppressed by superior military action and economic embargo. “One Nation, under God, Indivisible” would still be operable, if in fact, we WERE “under God”, but effectively, nearly half of the people of this country no longer believe this nation is “under God”.

So the part that believes breaks away from the part that does not sincerely believe in that maxim.


9 posted on 02/02/2013 8:19:19 PM PST by alloysteel (If conspiracy does not exist everywhere, it exists nowhere.)
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“But back to his previous mistake about the martyrs. No, the church would not be silenced, at least not true churches. It might be one of the best things to happen in America if a thousand preachers went to jail for refusing to obey an oppressive government order. During 1662, over 2,000 preachers in England lost their pulpits or went to jail for refusing to obey the king’s order to strictly adhere to the Book of Common Prayer. In the 1600s, the government of England started losing control of religion in Wales when hundreds of independent churches and chapels were established by nonconformist Independents, Baptists, Quakers, and others. The Nonconformists were gaining too much influence in England and Wales so the King and Parliament decided to bring them under control. The Act of Uniformity of 1662 required all ministers to assent to the rites and liturgy of the Established Church. In fact, all clergy, college professors, and schoolmasters had to agree with everything in the Book of Common Prayer! All clerics who refused to follow the common prayer book were ejected from the Church. Out of approximately 10,000 preachers throughout the country, about 2,000 were ejected (and some went to jail) but 20% to 25% of the country continued to worship illegally, holding secret services in barns and other unapproved locations. That could happen here. “

Well said.


10 posted on 02/02/2013 9:14:29 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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