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...Police investigate claims that Mormons kept wives from escaping Utah enclave
UK Daily Mail ^ | Jan. 23, 2013 | Sam Webb

Posted on 02/05/2013 8:08:03 PM PST by Colofornian

Police in a Utah town dominated by one of the largest polygamous sects in the U.S. have been stopping women from leaving, according to a top lawman.

Arizona's attorney general Tom Horne yesterday announced a criminal probe of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS) and the Marshal's Office, which serves as a small police force in the twin polygamous towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona.

During a news conference held in Phoenix, Mr Horne also announced that a 26-year-old woman had been granted temporary custody of her six children and had fled the town of Colorado City, the home base of the FLDS.

He said she was forced by by its jailed leader Warren Jeffs to marry her brother-in-law at the age of 14, and had since been virtually held captive in the town on the Utah-Arizona border, along with many other women who want to leave.

'What they do is say, "Everybody watch her so she won't run away". Then she can't leave,' Horne said.

'Women who wanted to escape have been forcibly held by the marshals against their will.'...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: svcw
flds follow the original teachings of Joseph Smith, it is the current SLC lds that do not.

Well; SLC may not follow the POLY part of D&C 132 (58-66); but I'll bet they sure believe and rely on THIS part of it!!!


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


41 posted on 02/07/2013 3:00:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sherman Logan
FLDS is generally considered to have around 10,000 members.

They's more than 50,000 of US!!!



42 posted on 02/07/2013 3:01:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sherman Logan
And referring to the FLDS' extremist activity as "Mormon" without further explanation is unfair.

And know that...


... referring to the LDS' heretical activity as "CHRISTIAN" without further explanation is a deceptive lie.

43 posted on 02/07/2013 3:03:15 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ansel12
By Mormon standards, that is probably the second largest denomination. in MORMONism.

(I think the old Rlds bunch, now known as Community of Christ, is really #2.)

44 posted on 02/07/2013 3:05:47 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JoeProBono; Utah Binger

Where’s them pigtails?


45 posted on 02/07/2013 3:06:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MayflowerMadam
How this can occur in America is astounding; it’s third-world stuff.

We young?

46 posted on 02/07/2013 3:08:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jimt
This is today's THREE MINUTES HATE.

Yup, Jimt; it IS rather ugly when this stuff is exposed!



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

47 posted on 02/07/2013 3:09:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jimt
Truth has nothing to do with it as long as it's defamatory and sensational.


The

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 71

Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238–239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.

1–4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5–11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.

1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.

2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be made known unto you.

3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.

4 Wherefore, labor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.

5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also;

6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power.

7 Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest.

8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord.

9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper;

10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.

11 Wherefore, keep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.

 

48 posted on 02/07/2013 3:10:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MeOnTheBeach
Are you telling me that if someone is being held in that town against their will, they can't pick up a phone and call the state police?


49 posted on 02/07/2013 3:17:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sherman Logan
I guess you are right. Sad.

Why are you guessing?

Did he(?) post ANYthing to rebut what the article said?

Any FACTS?

Any thing other than ACCUSATION?

50 posted on 02/07/2013 3:18:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: D-fendr
Call National Enquirer, you have a scoop....

Or THIS guy!!



51 posted on 02/07/2013 3:23:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Offhand, I don’t believe I have ever referred to LDS as “Christian” without further explanation.


52 posted on 02/07/2013 3:47:16 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

And I have never claimed you did.


53 posted on 02/07/2013 5:16:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie




54 posted on 02/07/2013 5:38:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Get on the horn to British Intelligence and let them know about this.
55 posted on 02/07/2013 5:47:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jimt

hum?
What part of the article do you find hateful?
The information being exposed or the activities or the poster?
The information is not new but the activities of the flds continue, the poster is posting a legitimate newsworthy article.

So to review, which part is hate?
The activities of the flds..
the newspaper’s reporting of the flds..
or the poster’s exposing of the flds using a legitimate news source?


56 posted on 02/07/2013 7:55:46 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Sherman Logan

You state you are sad, why?

Are you sad because women and girls are held against their will?
Are you sad that young girls are forced into marriage?
Are you sad young girls are forced to marry old men?

Or are you sad this is yet another news story about the flds, exposing their hideous activities or are you sad it is on going and people seem unable or unwilling to stop the practice or are you sad because it was posted?

What part makes you sad?


57 posted on 02/07/2013 8:04:44 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Elsie

I knew there were many lds/mormon spin offs just didn’t realize so many.
And here I thought there was only one true lds/mormon group and they are in SLC.
Makes you wonder which one is really “true”, one or all of these groups who adhere to Joseph Smith’s teachings or the group/corporation that does not.
It is amazing how many of these groups call themselves “the true” or “the righteous” or “the perfected”.


58 posted on 02/07/2013 8:29:32 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw
All human beings—male and female—are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, each has a divine nature and destiny.
 
Speaking of DESTINY; are there ANY of you "damned " SLC mormons reading this, whom has got any information from your church that old B.Y. was:
 
1. Speaking the very words of GOD
2. Drunk
3. On peyote
4. REALLY upset at SOMEone
5. Or just running his mouth as a man: a mere mortal, prone to the slings and arrows that beset us all or do you
6. just accept the FACT that you are, truly, damned for not following your Scripture found in D&C 132:58-66?
 
 
 
 
 
The following apparently are MORMON; but if pinged, nearly all will NOT respond and the couple that might, get really upset that they've been pinged.
 
So; I will NOT 'ping' them, but if they are searching for their names on FR, they can find them.
 
 
 
Adam-ondi-Ahman ; America always; Antonello; Arrowhead; asparagus ; BlueMoose; Come Up Higher; Dan(9698) ; DanielLongo; DelphiUser; Enough_Deceit ; frgoff; filospinato; Grig; GovernmentShrinker; Haroldson; Hodar; jared; Jenny Hatch ; jeff head; JEFF FULLER; JustTheTruth; jafojeffsurf ; KateUTWS; kbennkc; killermedic ; kkmo9; LeGrande; Lachoneus ; lady lawyer; LakerCJL; LemurFox; Logophile ; maui Hawaii; night reader ;novemberslady; old mountain man ; old student; Monkey Face; panaxanax; pseudogratix; radiohead; Ragtop; Rameumptom; Reaganesque; republicanbred; reno232; restornu; rscully; Safford; Sandude; Saundra duffy; sevenbak; siunevada; spiff; Stourme ; sundog ; sydneybristow ; teppe; TChris; TheDon; T. P. Pole;urroner ; utah girl; VegasBaby; Yellow Roses; bone52; JDW11235; Normandy; 1010RD; Paragon Defender; CARTOUCHE; Saundra duffy; killermedic; 1010RD; Ripliancum

59 posted on 02/07/2013 9:26:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svcw
All human beings—male and female—are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, each has a divine nature and ...

Sorry that I left out the MORMON heresy ALERT warning...

60 posted on 02/07/2013 9:28:23 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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