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Same-Sex Couples Cannot Adopt Russian Children
Interfax ^ | 2/5/13

Posted on 02/06/2013 7:51:58 AM PST by marshmallow

Moscow, February 5, Interfax - Same-sex couples are prohibited to adopt Russian orphans, Presidential Children's Rights Ombudsman Pavel Astakhov said in an interview published by Rossiyskaya Gazeta on Tuesday.

"Our fundamental laws - the Constitution and the Family Code - have already declared that position. They define a marriage as a union of a man and a woman. Nothing else. Period," Astakhov said.

There have been public protests in countries pondering same-sex marriage laws, such as France, the ombudsman said. Many people think they need a law banning homosexuality propaganda, just like Russia has endorsed, he said.

"They say that the French Education Ministry is introducing a standard of homosexual family propaganda in textbooks. Children are told that a family is not just the papa and the mama; it could be the papa and the papa or the mama and the mama," Astakhov said.

It is the question of humanitarian norms, which are being gradually transformed into international laws, the ombudsman said.

"Take the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. It says the child has the right to the papa and the mama. The adults do not have the mandatory right to have a child. But the child has the right to the mama and the papa. And it is being proposed to us to change the model of this world, this relationship," the children's rights ombudsman said.


TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 02/06/2013 7:52:02 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Smart


2 posted on 02/06/2013 7:55:03 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: marshmallow

Something wise and GOOD from Russia...


3 posted on 02/06/2013 7:56:22 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: marshmallow

Sounds ok to me. Anyone know what other countries have this same rule?


4 posted on 02/06/2013 7:58:00 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: marshmallow

Nice to see White people who actually use common sense for a change.


5 posted on 02/06/2013 8:00:09 AM PST by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: marshmallow

Who would have ever thought that the Russians would nhave more sense and better morals than America.


6 posted on 02/06/2013 8:02:54 AM PST by Venturer
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To: marshmallow

Russia is starting to look good to me lately..


7 posted on 02/06/2013 8:03:30 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: marshmallow

My how things have changed since the days of American Pie. With the rebels now in fool, err full, control of the US government, the morals have fallen away.


8 posted on 02/06/2013 8:03:41 AM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: marshmallow

My goodness. Who here would EVER have seen the day Russia become more Conservative than the USA??


9 posted on 02/06/2013 8:06:16 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Venturer

“”Take the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. It says the child has the right to the papa and the mama. The adults do not have the mandatory right to have a child. But the child has the right to the mama and the papa.”

I hate quoting anything from the UN, but this one makes sense.


10 posted on 02/06/2013 8:07:18 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: marshmallow
Never, ever thought I'd be typing this, but Good for the Russians!
11 posted on 02/06/2013 8:08:01 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: marshmallow

I could have sworn I read that they already did so, at least as far back as 2010. I rememeber looking it up after the hubbub a few weeks ago.

Freegards, thanks for all the threads on FR


12 posted on 02/06/2013 8:09:15 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: marshmallow

Finally some common sense in this whole crazy debate.


13 posted on 02/06/2013 8:24:23 AM PST by I want the USA back (Freedom of speech - a myth about a long-gone country.)
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To: marshmallow

The Russkies have common sense, something that’s lacking in the USA.


14 posted on 02/06/2013 8:40:45 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: stuartcr
Sounds ok to me. Anyone know what other countries have this same rule?

Nearly all countries that allow significant amounts of international adoption at all!

We have adopted three children, and have looked at international adoption before going domestic.

Countries have age, religious, weight, health, ethnicity, financial, education requirements as well. Some of these have to do with prioritization.

Some of them are maddening, others are arbitrary. The U.K. won't allow a Scot to adopt a Welsh. Either the Phillippines or S. Korea (I forget which) have an insanely low weight restriction, etc.

But many other countries (read most of Europe, especially Western Euroope) make it pretty much impossible, preferring foster care or institutions for those children whose parents or extended family cannot raise them, which make the arbitary restrictions look pretty reasonable by comparison.

So, a country like Norway is likely to try to bully Poland or the Phillipines into opening up to formally registered perverts, while they don't have much in the way of adoption available to ANYbody.
15 posted on 02/06/2013 8:51:45 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Dr. Sivana

OK thanks. I didn’t realise so many people adopted kids from other countries. Which country adopts the majority of American orphans?


16 posted on 02/06/2013 8:56:09 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: marshmallow

In my Boomer youth, I never would have thought I would see the day when a statement from Russia would have them outshine the US in terms of moral conviction. Sad.


17 posted on 02/06/2013 9:19:29 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: stuartcr

Russia has banned gay adoption for some time, this is not new

Also China


18 posted on 02/06/2013 9:28:11 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: marshmallow

The Constitution and the Family Code,logic at it’s finest.


19 posted on 02/06/2013 9:42:07 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: stuartcr
Which country adopts the majority of American orphans?

Canada, I believe, in large part because adoption within Canada is trickier. Though most adopted are here.

In many cases, I would not describe the children adopted as orphans. Many times arrangements are made even before the birth, with placement depending on the birth mother finding a suitable family. The goal is to provide the best care possible for the child.
20 posted on 02/06/2013 11:02:22 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: marshmallow

It’s sad when a communist country has more morals than us. Good for Russia anyhow.


21 posted on 02/06/2013 11:19:40 AM PST by Epsdude
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To: Dr. Sivana

Why do so many Americans adopt foreign babies?


22 posted on 02/06/2013 11:56:50 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Epsdude

I guess people can be both Godless and moral at the same time.


23 posted on 02/06/2013 11:58:28 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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Why do so many Americans adopt foreign babies?

More reasons than I can cover here, and the answers vary by country. The main reason is lack of young children available for adoption here. Many of the children available for adoption here languished (by reasons of law or circumstance) in the foster care system for a several years. Though many foster parents do adopt placed children. the reasons for wanting young children vary from the preference of the adoptive mother, to emotional damage that may have come to the children available (e.g. Attachment Disorder). Some adopting parents have fear that the adoption may not be truly finalized, and that they will ultimately be hounded by a birth mother (this is rare when adoptions are done properly). Depending on the state, an international adoption may move more quickly, and certainly more reliably. Time and money is needed in most adoptions (though not as much in the foster to adopt). If a parent would like a child of a certain look, for whatever reason, perhaps to blend in better with other children, countries like Russia become more popular. For those with tight funds, an African or Haitian adoption may be a relative financial bargain. Though these places are prone to corruption and debilitating natural disasters that can send you back to square one.

In recent years, a down economy combined with the onerous Hague Convention plus new U.S. regulations have caused a serious downturn in international adoptions.

There is much, much more to this. I can say that a loving adoption of any child, foreign and domestic, is well-worth doing for many, many reasons.
24 posted on 02/06/2013 12:53:13 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Seems that if the adoption process was looked at and addressed differently, it may make abortions less attractive.


25 posted on 02/06/2013 1:01:53 PM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

Yes!


26 posted on 02/06/2013 1:16:27 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: marshmallow

I’m thinking that may be why Putin prohibited American adoptions of Russian children.


27 posted on 02/06/2013 5:48:40 PM PST by ReformationFan
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