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Atheism as the new World "Religion" (ZOT!)
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Posted on 02/08/2013 3:30:15 PM PST by JaneAnna23

Hello fellow free republicans! I've been reading more and more online about how Atheists have started a movement to have Atheistic Churches the way doctrinal/theological religions do. Regardless of where you stand it's certainly a thought-provoking movement seeing as Atheism has long been an intellectual perspective of DOUBT in any religion. But I found an interesting video on youtube/cleantv.com about it. It's only 3 minutes so it is well worth your time. So check it out! I'm interested to see what others think about atheistic movements in our culture.

http://www.clean.tv/Web/ProgramDetail.aspx?pid=670


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1 posted on 02/08/2013 3:30:25 PM PST by JaneAnna23
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To: JaneAnna23

It’s called Unitarianism.


2 posted on 02/08/2013 3:33:59 PM PST by onedoug
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To: JaneAnna23

Have you ever met or even listened to someone professing to be an atheist? Have you any idea how farcical ity is to claim you KNOW there is no God, no Creator?


3 posted on 02/08/2013 3:34:52 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: JaneAnna23

IBZT!


4 posted on 02/08/2013 3:35:17 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: JaneAnna23; TheOldLady; humblegunner; null and void; Chode; Old Sarge; Arrowhead1952; ...
Hello fellow free republicans!

Sorry but the GOP isn't exactly popular round here right now Ms. "I signed up yesterday to post this"


5 posted on 02/08/2013 3:37:13 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: JaneAnna23

Having just signed up yesterday your first post here is about atheists? Don’t be surprised if your stay here on FR (under your current screen name,at least) is a short one.Like hours...if not minutes.


6 posted on 02/08/2013 3:37:56 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: MHGinTN

Atheists are kooky.


7 posted on 02/08/2013 3:42:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: JaneAnna23

IBTZ.


8 posted on 02/08/2013 3:42:19 PM PST by OKSooner ("Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!!")
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To: JaneAnna23

The “Agnostic Church” just doesn’t know about those other guys


9 posted on 02/08/2013 3:44:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: JaneAnna23

Self-loathing atheists??

Self-Contradicting atheists??


10 posted on 02/08/2013 3:44:10 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: JaneAnna23

I’m not a republican.


11 posted on 02/08/2013 3:44:25 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: GeronL

“Please allow me to introduce myself

I’m a man of wealth and taste

I’ve been around for a long, long years

Stole many a man’s soul and faith”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBecM3CQVD8


12 posted on 02/08/2013 3:47:58 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: JaneAnna23

You can’t trust some of these so-called atheists, most of them are faking it...try the Vlad the Impaler test and give them a seat on a ten foot sharpened stake, and see if they cry out for Nobody, Oh my Nobody, for Nobody’s sake help me Nobody, Nobody save me I promise I’ll change, I swear to Nobody. Aieeeee.

Now, that hardly ever happens.


13 posted on 02/08/2013 3:55:38 PM PST by fattigermaster (If the tiger feasts, the jackal profits...when tigers sleep, the jackals rule.)
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To: JaneAnna23

Here’s my take, and I understand everyone has a first post....

The fool has said there is no God.

And, everyone believes in something....be it a deity, money, power...

And no, the world will not embrace atheism as it’s religion. There’s a guy out there, probably right now, just waiting to be the messiah for the masses. And they will lap it up like dogs.


14 posted on 02/08/2013 3:58:07 PM PST by mom4melody
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To: JaneAnna23
"Regardless of where you stand it's certainly a thought-provoking movement seeing as Atheism has long been an intellectual perspective of DOUBT in any religion"

Atheism is the sincere belief in DOUBT.

Meow.

15 posted on 02/08/2013 3:58:39 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: onedoug

Unitarians? Oh, you mean like those people last week who came and knocked on my door, but didn’t know why?


16 posted on 02/08/2013 3:58:39 PM PST by OKSooner ("Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!!")
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To: OKSooner

If you burn a question mark on a Unitarian’s lawn, is that a hate crime?


17 posted on 02/08/2013 4:00:23 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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Why go to the bother of starting a church that doesn’t believe in God when there’s probably quite a few to choose from in any decently sized city already?


18 posted on 02/08/2013 4:00:57 PM PST by Hayride
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To: kosciusko51

:)


19 posted on 02/08/2013 4:02:28 PM PST by OKSooner ("Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!!")
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To: StAnDeliver

No, Agnosticism is a sincere position of doubt.


20 posted on 02/08/2013 4:02:46 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: JaneAnna23

Old religion... there were two trees in the garden of Eden. Anyone with half a brain cell could figure out which tree the self professed knowers of absolutely the unkown worship. I know, I used to be an aetheist.. then I grew up and understand that at least I can humbly admit I know, that I do not.


21 posted on 02/08/2013 4:08:17 PM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: onedoug

I went to an old, stately looking church in Concord, MA a year or two ago. It was a craft show or something, and I went with my wife.

What I saw there really startled me, and, well...horrified isn’t really the right word, but...I had never been in a church like that before.

It LOOKED like a church...had all the trappings of a church, had posters all over the place indicating a lot of interaction and engagement of youth, but...it wasn’t what it appeared.

My wife was looking at jewelry and crafts, so I was perusing the posters on the wall, and there was one, a list of guiding principles, bigger than the rest, aimed at kids and one of the numbered principles said: “Don’t let anyone tell you what is right and what is wrong. You are free to decide, it is your own personal decision.”

I stood there for a long time looking at that and wondering about it. Don’t let anyone tell you what is right and what is wrong? A “principle” aimed at kids?

As I started really reading stuff, these people didn’t believe in God. They believed in sunshine, flowers. trees and feeling good as God.

I still cannot believe it. Now, I know God is in all of those things, but these people excised God cleanly out of it. It was a real shock to see that.

It was a Unitarian church.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 4:14:39 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: JaneAnna23

Worldwide Atheism is required for worldwide communism.

The democratic republic set up here by the Founding Fathers requires Godly people.

Who’s winning this round?


23 posted on 02/08/2013 4:15:04 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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To: JaneAnna23

“Mental parasites, they took up a universal vague religion”—WH Auden

“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools”—Paul


24 posted on 02/08/2013 4:18:26 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: momincombatboots

Wild and wonderful, as I lit my rotors to a hot and glowing adventure of freedom and potential.

Coming down the mountain,

Stomp the gas

Stomp the brakes

again and again, till you discover

Something is on fire.


25 posted on 02/08/2013 4:18:26 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

They might win the Round, but ultimately, the fight will be won by the good guys.


26 posted on 02/08/2013 4:20:02 PM PST by mom4melody
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To: JaneAnna23
Hello fellow free republicans! I've been reading more and more online about how Atheists have started a movement to have Atheistic Churches the way doctrinal/theological religions do. Regardless of where you stand it's certainly a thought-provoking movement seeing as Atheism has long been an intellectual perspective of DOUBT in any religion. But I found an interesting video on youtube/cleantv.com about it. It's only 3 minutes so it is well worth your time. So check it out! I'm interested to see what others think about atheistic movements in our culture.

"Fellow free republicans"? Hello, Democrat!
JaneAnna23
Since Feb 7, 2013

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good.
-- Psalm 14:1

27 posted on 02/08/2013 4:21:23 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: mom4melody

Exactly! I would contend that true atheism doesn’t exist, as worship is integral to our identity as humans. Those who do not believe in a divinity that teaches humanity the difference between right and wrong, do one of two things.

A)They worship themselves,dictating that if they desire it, it cannot be wrong. They are only accountable to themselves, because they are the center of the universe.

B)They worship another human. You could apply this to most Democrats and loyal Norks.

Has anyone else wondered if this is an attempt to get some sort of benefit for atheists?


28 posted on 02/08/2013 4:27:03 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: JaneAnna23

No, thanks. I’d say you’re wasting your time here.


29 posted on 02/08/2013 4:36:21 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: JaneAnna23
Atheists have started a movement to have Atheistic Churches the way doctrinal/theological religions do.

Secular Humanism is even more openly religious than Marxism. The first Humanist Manifesto described the agenda of "religious" Humanists.

The 1980 preface to the Humanist Manifestos I & II, written by Paul Kurtz says, "Humanism is a philosophical, religious, and moral point of view.

"Among religions in this country...[is]... secular humanism"

Supreme Court Justice Black, 1960
Torasco v. Watkins

Humanism believes that mankind should evolve into a world community, and that such a community necessitates a world government. Corliss Lamont declares, "a truly Humanist civilization must be a world civilization."

This sentiment is reiterated in the Humanist Manifesto II: "Each person's future is in some way linked to all. We thus reaffirm a commitment to the building of world community, at the same time recognizing that this commits us to some hard choices." One of these hard choices involves calling for a world government."

30 posted on 02/08/2013 4:38:27 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: JaneAnna23

It’s an interesting little wrinkle in their strategies. On the one hand, many atheists are quite the mockers of religion and its trappings, imagining that they are far too intelligent to be seduced by such pageantry. Yet, one of the express purposes of the Atheist churches is to mimic the effects of the religious rituals that they view as silly and superstitious. They want to try to obtain the benefits of religion without giving up their high horse attitudes on the matter.

They’ve also been contending that religions are detrimental and not a benefit to society and communities. Yet, if that were true, then there would be no sense in Atheists trying to mimic any of the habits of the religious in order to build up their community. So it seems to betray the hidden truth that their atheism has left at least some void in their lives, even if they are not willing yet to admit that the void is a God-shaped one.


32 posted on 02/08/2013 4:56:40 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: JaneAnna23
IBTZ

You need to read this statement from the site founder:

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.

I somehow doubt your stay will be very long.

33 posted on 02/08/2013 5:01:19 PM PST by Waryone
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To: JaneAnna23

” Regardless of where you stand it’s certainly a thought-provoking movement”

No. It isn’t. I know that sucks for you, but really, it just makes you attention seeking trash.


34 posted on 02/08/2013 5:05:44 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Alex Murphy; JaneAnna23
"The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good.

-- Psalm 14:1"

That particular Scripture has been on my mind all afternoon. I went to town to do some shopping (town happens to be Lynchburg, VA, where Thomas Road Church is based). Folks who go to that church often have "Not I, But Christ" decals on their vehicles.

Well, I saw a car with a decal that said, "Not I, NOT CHRIST, but Mother Earth." I should probably be unshockable by now, but seeing that was like a kick in the stomach....it actually made me feel sick. That person was denying Christ and putting her faith in a rock....she chose the creation over the Creator.

What an arrogant fool.

35 posted on 02/08/2013 5:08:55 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: CatherineofAragon

bump


36 posted on 02/08/2013 5:15:01 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Waryone

Don’t be so shortsighted.


37 posted on 02/08/2013 5:15:31 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Dostoevsky said, “if God is dead, everything is permitted”

The atheist has accountability to no one and is free to live a completely selfish, useless life.


38 posted on 02/08/2013 5:21:48 PM PST by Liberty Wins
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To: JaneAnna23

Welcome n00b!

You are unaware of the rules. I’m here to help your little n00bie hide.

If you post an article, and it is full of falsehoods, silliness or ridiculous claims, the title should be followed with a Barf Alert in parenthesis.

Carry one.


39 posted on 02/08/2013 5:24:58 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: JaneAnna23
Welcome to FR
40 posted on 02/08/2013 5:26:08 PM PST by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: Liberty Wins

Awesome !!!

My daughter in college loves Dostoevsky.

Can you help point me to the source?

Maybe she gets more than I think.

Either way, it never hurts to be prepared.


41 posted on 02/08/2013 5:26:59 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: JaneAnna23
I'm sure you won't be here for long


42 posted on 02/08/2013 5:28:28 PM PST by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: erod

“There’s something happening here

What it is ain’t exactly clear

There’s a man with a gun over there

Telling me I got to beware”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5M_Ttstbgs


43 posted on 02/08/2013 5:33:17 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: JaneAnna23
The fundamentalist evangelical Atheists are on the rise!
44 posted on 02/08/2013 5:42:55 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Zeneta

The actual quote is, “If there is no God, everything is permitted.”

Not sure, but it might be Brothers Karamozov, where the atheistic brother discovers God.

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/f/fyodor_dostoevsky.html#L3qeS4bbS8EPvgoK.99


45 posted on 02/08/2013 5:43:16 PM PST by Liberty Wins
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To: Liberty Wins; GeronL

Yes, while believing they are somehow superior. But that feeling of self-satisfaction is going to vanish when they kneel before the Christ they spent so much time mocking.


46 posted on 02/08/2013 5:49:16 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Liberty Wins

Thanks,

She gave me “The house of the dead” and “notes from the underground”

I will be all over the link/reference you sent.

Thanks again.


47 posted on 02/08/2013 5:55:42 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: Liberty Wins

WOW,

I just discovered that she also gave me “Brothers Karamazov”

I’m off to read it.


48 posted on 02/08/2013 6:08:53 PM PST by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
For the record, agnostics can't prove or disprove, athiests believe here is nothing to be proven...one is a religion, the other is not.

There is no reason why an agnostic cannot be as good or better a member of the Judeo-Christian community as any avowed true believer.

An athiest, not so very likely.

49 posted on 02/08/2013 6:13:13 PM PST by norton
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To: JaneAnna23; 50mm; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; Darksheare; TheOldLady; Lady Jag; Chode; shibumi; ...
Signed up yesterday, posts a blog pimp link, and doesn't come back.


50 posted on 02/08/2013 6:50:59 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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