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Boy Scouts, Mormon Church Settle Sex Abuse Lawsuit
Oregon Herald ^ | Nov. 25, 2012 | Donna Millsap

Posted on 02/10/2013 10:44:37 AM PST by Colofornian

PORTLAND, Oregon — The Boys Scouts of America and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have agreed to settle a lawsuit filed by a Portland man who said they didn't do enough to stop a Scout troop leader from sexually abusing children.

A document filed Nov. 15 in U.S. District Court in Boise said both sides agreed to an undisclosed monetary settlement.

SNIP

The lawsuit alleges the leader of a Boy Scout troop in Nampa in southwestern Idaho sexually abused the plaintiff over three years in both Idaho and Oregon starting in 1967, and that the abuse left him with debilitating physical, emotional and mental injuries.

The lawsuit was initially filed in February 2008 in Malheur County Circuit Court in Vale, Ore., by a then 53-year-old man who sought $5 million in damages and contended the Scouts and church didn't do enough to stop the troop leader from sexually abusing children...

The suit said the troop was jointly operated by the Boy Scouts and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Nampa ward of the church "called" the troop leader to educate and minister to LDS families and their kids, the lawsuit said.

A federal judge in August 2010 ruled the lawsuit must focus on alleged sexual abuse suffered in Oregon because it was too late to sue over similar claims in Idaho. The judge found Idaho's statute of limitations prevented the plaintiff from suing in that state. The judge also found that Idaho's two-year statute of limitations prohibited the plaintiff from suing over the immediate damages he suffered from the alleged sexual abuse in Idaho, since he claimed the abuse happened between 1967 and 1970.

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonherald.com ...


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KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; homosexualagenda; inman; lawsuit; lds; ldschurch; moralabsolutes; mormon; pedophile; sexabuse; sexoffenders
From the article: The Boys Scouts of America and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have agreed to settle a lawsuit filed by a Portland man who said they didn't do enough to stop a Scout troop leader from sexually abusing children...The lawsuit alleges the leader of a Boy Scout troop in Nampa in southwestern Idaho sexually abused the plaintiff over three years in both Idaho and Oregon starting in 1967, and that the abuse left him with debilitating physical, emotional and mental injuries...The suit said the troop was jointly operated by the Boy Scouts and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Nampa ward of the church "called" the troop leader to educate and minister to LDS families and their kids, the lawsuit said.

Scouts are at risk now...that will increase if the homosexual activists have their way...

1 posted on 02/10/2013 10:44:42 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

“If you think healthcare’s expensive now, just wait until it’s free.”

If you think sex abuse is bad now, wait until the BSA “normalizes” faggotism/pedophilia.


2 posted on 02/10/2013 10:52:00 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: Colofornian

How can anyone defend himself against claims of offenses that happened about 40 years ago?


3 posted on 02/10/2013 10:52:47 AM PST by Bob
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To: Colofornian
I think you are having a problem with your bold tag. For some reason the phrase The Boys Scouts of America is preventing the tag from including that key part of the bolded sentences. Strange. I think you need to switch browsers. You had another IE problem on another thread you just posted where it left out the very last, and important paragraph.
4 posted on 02/10/2013 11:07:01 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Bob

Maybe BSA and others should file a counter suit against cities and Gay Les organizations to say that THEIR actions allowed members of their/this “class” to be involved and they should pay for being a party to these gross actions.


5 posted on 02/10/2013 11:10:25 AM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: mnehring; All
I think you are having a problem with your bold tag. For some reason the phrase The Boys Scouts of America is preventing the tag from including that key part of the bolded sentences. Strange.

(a) I didn't know that Boy Scouts of America "called" people to certain positions...whereas the Lds church did in this circumstance;
(b) Unlike other churches, the Mormon church claims to have THE ONE PROPHET-OFFICIAL REP of God leading its church...a church that claims such a "prophet" would ne'er lead it astray...;
And (c)

Finally, in a classic comment of yours, I see that you're more upset over how the article poster uses an bold-faced tag than you are that the Mormon church didn't do enough to oversee a repeat child sexual abuser who left a victim with "debilitating physical, emotional and mental injuries" (Glad to see your provocation senses are all "working in proper order")


6 posted on 02/10/2013 11:22:05 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Just trying to do you a favor, lighten up. You wouldn’t want to be accused of pulling an NBC and deliberately highlighting or hiding parts of stories to fit the storyline you want. Kind of like them editing Zimmerman’s 911 call.


7 posted on 02/10/2013 11:29:04 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring
Not bold-facing a phrase = "hiding"???

Wow!

(If you knew a pedophile was a fellow Boy Scout leader on an outing, not sure you would make for the best advocate for the kids on such a weekend...I think you'd be heavily focused on the extra loop either missing or sloppily tied in a knot-tying exercise)

8 posted on 02/10/2013 11:35:49 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

If a pedophile was a Boy Scout leader, the operative fact would be whether he is a Mormon. Clearly.


9 posted on 02/10/2013 11:39:39 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Colofornian
Stop abusing the children. Pedophilia is a CRIME. STOP IT!


10 posted on 02/10/2013 11:42:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: Colofornian

‘hiding’ was in reference to your deliberately cutting out parts of the other article you just posted prior to this that didn’t fit the narrative you wanted to paint.


11 posted on 02/10/2013 11:50:35 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

In the other article you reference, DesNews requires excerpting....If DesNews didn’t have that requirement, there would have been no need to bother with excerpting at all.


12 posted on 02/10/2013 11:52:30 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Bob
Generally its really effing easy in these cases.
This is a crime the public does not want to believe happens over much.

Likely if there is a ruling in favor of the plaintiff then there is a pretty fair amount of corroborating evidence.

As medical debilitation is stated, the most probable factor in this case would be colon scarring which sometimes tears - leading to occasional bleeding, irritable bowel syndrome from that causing more occaisional bleeding, and perhaps a torn or herniated rectum ... you guessed it, trouble holding in bowel movements and more occasional bleeding. Stress fractures in the lower leg bones from where a grown man's knees supported his weight on a child can also continue to be a problem for decades if the abuse is chronic.

There could also be corroborating witnesses.

A jury isn't likely to be persuaded by uncorroborated testimony.

13 posted on 02/10/2013 11:58:36 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Colofornian

If DesNews requires excerpting, I fail to see how excerpting one paragraph makes any difference. Why didn’t you just then excerpt a word, or a punctuation mark?


14 posted on 02/10/2013 12:13:56 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; mnehring
Wow! Nitpickers Unanimous, eh?

I actually "made up" for cutting out the final 65 words of the article by putting the "ex" in the headline brackets...

How would that be considered "hiding" or concealing if I actually moved the info excerpted to the very headline????

What? You both have flunked basic reading skills? Go back to the article and you can see -- in the brackets

Ex-Lds prez

Are you so blinded by siding against me -- that you don't realize that you come across as siding with sex perps???

Why are you more provoked by me cutting the final 65 words of an article that demands excerpting than by a perp committing sexual assault upon a mom & her two kids -- resulting in surgery for a boy who had his penis bit by a man -- who was AT THAT TIME an Lds branch president?

What? Do you always go bat for such perps...or just Mormon perps?

You're both pathetic, coming across as advocates for these perps...

(Let me know when these kinds of crimes actually start to bother you in any degree)

15 posted on 02/10/2013 12:31:53 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: mnehring; Colofornian
I think you are having a problem with your bold tag.

I think you are having a problem with the fact that this is the Religion Forum and the Boy Scouts of America is not a religious entity.

Perhaps you feel that you are the posting police today?

16 posted on 02/10/2013 1:58:49 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Thanks Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian

Colofornian ... maybe you should lay off your hatred obsession for a while, and get a life.


17 posted on 02/10/2013 2:13:38 PM PST by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country)
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To: teppe; Religion Moderator
Sorry, Tep, but your accusations when it comes to the "Religion section" involve casting aspersions on motivation...against Religion Forum rules...

Will you repent of that?

18 posted on 02/10/2013 2:16:34 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Scouts are at risk now...that will increase if the homosexual activists have their way...

Yeah but...
 
 
 
..."uhhhhh, that's not part of our campaign"

19 posted on 02/10/2013 2:24:28 PM PST by TArcher
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To: Colofornian

Are you “casting aspersions on [my] motivation?” ROTFLMAO


20 posted on 02/10/2013 2:27:46 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Colofornian
Isn't there a statute of limitations about such crimes?

And then there is the problem of false memory syndrome and fake lawsuits.

I'm not saying abuse didn't occur, I'm just wondering why it took so many years for the suit to happen. Is there a “paper trail” suggesting he revealed it in the past to a counselor etc?

21 posted on 02/10/2013 5:02:03 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: Colofornian

You always post about abuse, so maybe you might want to know that 20 percent of gay teenaged boys and 5 percent of heterosexual teenaged boys have had intercourse below age 13, according to the CDC.

So you can’t just point fingers at a church you dislike when a sexual predator pretends to be religious to target kids.


22 posted on 02/10/2013 5:08:30 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: LadyDoc; Washi
Re: the church -- in THIS particular instance -- the issue isn't simply that sex abuse occurred at the hands of a church rep. It was that the Lds church failed to act after receiving info about this man.

This is FAR from the only case involving Lds Boy Scout leaders.

Here -- go to Mormon (Latter Day Saints) Sexual Abuse Lawyer (Perhaps FREEPER Washi can find a parallel "Evangelical Sexual Abuse Lawyer" Web site).

Per this Web site:
We began fighting for those abused in the context of the Mormon Church in 2005, and since then have represented several dozen men and women who were abused by missionaries, home teachers, bishops, Scout leaders and others in positions of LDS callings. In 2007, Kelly Clark, along with Gilion Dumas and Kristian Roggendorf, won major pretrial victories against the LDS Church on disputed legal questions such as the statute of limitations, punitive damages and– most significantly– won a ruling from the trial court, backed up by the Oregon Supreme Court, that the Church release its financial records. Perhaps not surprisingly, the case settled immediately after that decision. Beginning in 2007, we brought a case on behalf of six men against the LDS Church, with claims of harboring a serial child abuser in Portland, a Scout leader, who had confessed to his bishop to molesting 17 boys in the troop, and yet was allowed by this bishop to resume Scouting leadership within only a few months. The LDS settled out of that case in 2009, and in 2010 we proceeded to trial against only the BSA, winning a record verdict of nearly $20 million, including punitive damages of $18.5 million. Since that trial, we have continued to advocate for survivors of abuse in the LDS context, and in 2012, for example, Gilion Dumas and our firm defeated comprehensive motions brought by the Church in a case in federal court in Boise, Idaho. gain, that case settled just after the court’s ruling, as we were preparing to head to trial. Those who’ve survived Mormon abuse often have conflicting feelings of doubt, shame, anger, and an aversion to religion. At the same time, many remain deeply loyal to the Church. But all have been betrayed by an authority figure from that Church. This dynamic leads to much confusion and disillusionment for survivors of abuse in Mormonism. We understand this confusion, and while we never suggest that a person abandon his or her faith, we do believe that, for some survivors, securing justice for themselves and accountability for their abusers and those who may have enabled it is an important part of the healing process.

In the case re: this article, Gilion Dumas (mentioned above) was the attorney on behalf of the victim.

If you review the circumstances of MOST of these 2011 cases below, you'll find a common theme: Lds leaders were REPORTED to have KNOWN about reports of abuse, yet failed to act responsibly in addressing them...the odds of this happening in so many recent cases for ANY given SMALL denomination or sect would be astounding...which is why this SHOUTS for a response!

2011

* December, 2011: Judge weighing whether Mormon bishop should stand trial for failure to report abuse
* Mid-November, 2011: Provo city to file charges against LDS bishop
* April, 2011: Mormon Church Denies Prior Knowledge of Susan Brock Affair With Teen Boy, Which is a Lie
* March, 2011: Sacramento News & Review
* February, 2011: Father of The 5 Browns pleads guilty to sexually abusing his daughters

23 posted on 02/10/2013 5:25:17 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: LadyDoc; All
You always post about abuse, so maybe you might want to know that 20 percent of gay teenaged boys and 5 percent of heterosexual teenaged boys have had intercourse below age 13, according to the CDC. So you can’t just point fingers at a church you dislike when a sexual predator pretends to be religious to target kids.

Also, are you consistent here? For a while, there wasn't a week gone by that the MSM wasn't reporting of yet another public educator (and on occasion, a private-school educator as well) who had been arrested of sexually abusing a student.

Whenever these articles have popped up on FR (about school educators), have you posted the above stat with an accompanying, "So you can’t just point fingers at the public school system you dislike when a sexual predator pretends to be 'educationally-minded' to target kids" ????

And...by parallel, do you REALLY think all school teachers guilty of sexually abusing students merely have "pretended" to be kid-oriented (in a good way) and "educationally-minded" just to get them into closer proximity with kids??? I don't think so...; I think many do...and many don't ... but who knows the breakdown? (I don't)

What? Do you think all of these teachers merely disguised their pedophilia in order to get closer to kids, or do you think that perhaps in many cases, circumstances/temptations /poor choices could explain them as well???

Why is it that in these church cases, it's supposedly "pretend" Mormons or "EX-Mormons" with emphasis on the "Ex" part -- but when teachers are the guilty party, nobody accuses them of being "pretend" educators or emphasizes how they are now "ex-teachers" as ways of trying to exculpate the school system...???

...Seems awfully and highly inconsistent to me...Just sayin'...

24 posted on 02/10/2013 5:37:31 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
(Perhaps FREEPER Washi can find a parallel "Evangelical Sexual Abuse Lawyer" Web site)

Colofornian. You made the assertion, did you not, that Mormon's have "way more" than their share of sexual crimes?

I asked you to cite a study that backs your claim.

If such a study exists, certainly it would be an easy thing to post a link to it here and shut me up.

Anecdotal stories, cherry-picked from the Internet prove nothing, and you know it.

Find your study, show me that Mormons are statistically more likely to commit sexual crimes than Evangelicals or any other religion and I'll concede your point.

25 posted on 02/10/2013 6:27:56 PM PST by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: Colofornian

This thread is in “chat” - the Religion Forum guidelines do not apply here.


26 posted on 02/10/2013 7:52:24 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
(I understand that NOW...article was originally placed in the Religion Forum ... and moved by the mods...like others (plural) the mods have moved today ... seems like threads that would remain where they were -- had they been placed by any other FREEPER -- get moved by virtue of who placed them...but hey, that's life...nothing to get riled about)
27 posted on 02/10/2013 8:07:50 PM PST by Colofornian
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