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Vatican Discloses That Benedict Has Heart pacemaker
New York Times ^ | February 12, 2013 | ELISABETTA POVOLEDO

Posted on 02/12/2013 7:45:06 AM PST by Alex Murphy

ROME — A day after Pope Benedict XVI stunned Roman Catholics by announcing that he would resign at the end of the month, the Vatican disclosed new details about his physical well-being on Tuesday, saying he had been fitted with a heart pacemaker a decade ago but that had not influenced his decision to become the first pope in almost 600 years to step down.

The disclosure about the device, whose existence was not widely known, came as the Vatican grappled with a series of logistical questions raised by a decision that gave Benedict just 17 days to wind up his almost eight-year papacy.

At a news conference, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman said the pacemaker was installed some years ago, while the pope was still a cardinal before his election in 2005. The batteries were replaced three months ago in a routine prodecure that had not influenced the pope’s thinking about resigning, Father Lombardi said.

The intervention was “just a routine change of batteries, not an important operation.”

“This did not weigh on his decision, it is more about his forces diminishing.”

When he announced his resignation on Monday, the pope cited advancing years and weakness, saying his strength “has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me.”

Greg Burke, the Vatican’s senior communications adviser, said the pacemaker was fitted roughly 10 years ago — a period when Benedict, then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, was the head of the Vatican’s main doctrinal office, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

“You don’t resign because you have a pacemaker or because you have a new battery for a pacemaker,” Mr. Burke said.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: bertone; pacemakerbatteries; popebenedict; popecandidates; popepacemaker; poperesigns; vaticaninfighting
At a news conference, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman said the pacemaker was installed some years ago, while the pope was still a cardinal before his election in 2005. The batteries were replaced three months ago in a routine prodecure that had not influenced the pope’s thinking about resigning, Father Lombardi said....

....Greg Burke, the Vatican’s senior communications adviser, said the pacemaker was fitted roughly 10 years ago — a period when Benedict, then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, was the head of the Vatican’s main doctrinal office, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

1 posted on 02/12/2013 7:45:08 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

So he isn’t stepping down for all sorts of evil reasons? What will the media do?


2 posted on 02/12/2013 7:47:14 AM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: Alex Murphy

A heart pacemaker? As opposed to a liver pacemaker?


3 posted on 02/12/2013 7:50:22 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Alex Murphy

What I find more interesting than all these resigning popes (which I don’t consider a big deal) is the story of John Paul I...the smiling pope.


4 posted on 02/12/2013 7:53:08 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SoothingDave

I know some folks who might benefit from a stomach pacemaker ...


5 posted on 02/12/2013 7:53:52 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Alex Murphy

well they better handle this thing smartly because everybody is used to Popes leaving office feet first when they’re stone cold dead. With all the scandal hitting the Catholic Church, no wonder folks are thinking along conspiracy theory lines.


6 posted on 02/12/2013 7:54:05 AM PST by brooklyn dave (1st commandment THOU SHALT NOT BELIEVE THY GOVERNMENT)
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To: vpintheak
What will the media do?

Big Media will print half-truths, distortions, and fabrications.

What else would you expect?

They can't even report the weather without puking up some piece of leftist propaganda.

7 posted on 02/12/2013 7:55:38 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Alex Murphy

He’s too pooped to pope, so he’s generously making way for a more vigorous replacement.


8 posted on 02/12/2013 8:00:00 AM PST by Bluestocking
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To: Alex Murphy
My apologies, BTW.

I'm forgetting my manners.

I haven't invited you over lately, so THIS is just for you.

9 posted on 02/12/2013 8:03:05 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: brooklyn dave

I’m guessing he’s suffering from the beginnings of dementia, but the Vatican doesn’t want to come out and say it. Too many critics use it to hammer the Pope’s reforms....


10 posted on 02/12/2013 8:05:53 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: brooklyn dave; vpintheak; Alex Murphy
OK, speculations are being flung around by the pinch, the dash and the bucket, so I'll add mine to the soup:

From the moment he was elected, Pope Benedict made it clear that he hadn't wanted to be Pope: he said that the announcement was "like a guillotine blade coming down."

Knowing that at his age he'd only have a few years, and knowing all the sotto-voce skulduggery that goes on in any big institution, especially the Roman Curia, I'm betting he has been planning for his successor from Day One back in April 2005.

He's a patient man. He's planned 15 moves ahead, putting the chess pieces in place. Now, announcing RIGHT before Lent, he's basically forcing the Cardinals to wrap it up quick, because none of them wants to be out of their Diocese for the whole Holy Season, and certainly not for Easter.

Plus, with Benedict still being alive, they can each of them come in to consult with him, personally, if they want, about his successor. And he can undermine the plotters (yes, there are plotters, too: people who side with the Enemy.) This careful planning--- I hope --- is the long-term architecture of the thing. I think Benedict's moves are wise, Spirit-guided, brilliant.

Then, Benedict is going to retire to a life of intense prayer in a monastic setting.

Something big coming.

Really big.

People: pray, pray. pray.

11 posted on 02/12/2013 8:11:23 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the Living God: the Pillar and Foundation of the Truth." 1 Tim 3:15)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You make too much sense. Don’t you know what website you’re on? ;)

(I agree with you, though)


12 posted on 02/12/2013 8:14:24 AM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: Sacajaweau
"all these resigning popes"....????

Um, I read that this is the first time a Pope has resigned in 600 years....

13 posted on 02/12/2013 8:23:55 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Eepsy

You could be right, but I buy the loss of stamina theory. People with heart problems often notice a loss of stamina. I did. Add to that the Pontiff’s age. No wonder he’s tired.

I give him credit for recognizing that he can’t do the job anymore and that it is time to step aside for someone else. I just hope that his successor will be a conservative and a stalwart defender of the faith.


14 posted on 02/12/2013 8:27:55 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma
+{{{[:o)

Papal Smiley

15 posted on 02/12/2013 8:36:48 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the Living God: the Pillar and Foundation of the Truth." 1 Tim 3:15)
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To: goodnesswins

“...this is the first time a Pope has resigned in 600 years....”

Yes! They’re not exactly carting them off in wheelbarrows...


16 posted on 02/12/2013 8:44:33 AM PST by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: Alex Murphy

Hey, it’s hard work covering for pedophiles...


17 posted on 02/12/2013 8:45:24 AM PST by TSgt (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.)
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To: fatnotlazy

The insiders aren’t shocked despite their claim.
http://www.americancatholic.org/news/pope/popehospitalized/PopeSodano.asp

Sodano is rumored to be behind the Vatileaks as he wanted to get someone else in Bertone’s position before the Pope died.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2012/06/06/what-is-behind-the-vatileaks-plot-mainly-it-seems-its-a-conspiracy-against-the-popes-most-trusted-collaborator-so-we-should-pray-that-it-fails/

For all the talk of God leading spirtual paths blah blah blah to picking the Pope it is going to be a war between the Sodano and Bertone factions.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1202259.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/opinion/the-pope-could-still-right-the-wrongs.html?_r=0


18 posted on 02/12/2013 8:47:11 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Oh and for those that continue to claim that the Catholic Church is not a political organization....

Read this.

It is one big political soap opera.

http://www.mondayvatican.com/holy-see/babylon-behind-the-quiet-revolution-guerrila-from-inside-and-outside-the-church

http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/46410?eng=y


19 posted on 02/12/2013 8:52:50 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican Secretary of State, is desperately trying to defend his position while being besieged by many who want him to resign. His enemies appear to be led by the “old guard” who were ousted after the departure of Cardinal Bertone’s predecessor, Cardinal Angelo Sodano.”

“Nobody in the Curia seems to have heeded the Holy Father when, some years ago, he addressed the world’s bishops with these words from St Paul’s Letter to the Galatians: “If you go snapping at one another and tearing one another to pieces, take care: you will be eaten up by one another.”

So the war has begun. But regardless of who wins, the Church loses.”
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2012/02/09/the-church-is-the-loser-in-this-ugly-war-between-vatican-officials/


20 posted on 02/12/2013 9:01:44 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Alex Murphy
“You don’t resign because you have a pacemaker or because you have a new battery for a pacemaker,” Mr. Burke said.

Good grief! The man is old, feels old and knows that a younger man would be able to do the role as well or better than him.

My father is 83 and has a pacemaker and is in generally good health. I asked him how he would like to have the pace at which Benedict works, with the travel and constant meetings and greetings, not to mention the supervision of Papal documents and his own writing. My dad said, "I don't know how he keeps up with it all. Just thinking about what he does leaves me exhausted."

Before pacemakers pope's just died. There are enough good, younger, healthy men for the Holy Spirit to chose from.

21 posted on 02/12/2013 9:03:02 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: TSgt

To be fair to the current Pope, I am sure he was blocked more than once by Sodano
http://christianchildabuse.blogspot.com/2010/07/cardinal-sodano-is-catastrophe-waiting.html

Notice the motive

Money


22 posted on 02/12/2013 9:06:25 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Let’s not forget about Bertone who halted serial pedophile Lawrence Murphy’s canonical trial...


23 posted on 02/12/2013 9:12:49 AM PST by TSgt (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thank you for this thoughtful sober post. Praying hard every day!


24 posted on 02/12/2013 9:20:17 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Slyfox

He is not strong enough to deal with the Tsunami.

The Catholic Church is entangled in a Vatican Bank Scandal that is growing worse.

Tourists couldn’t even use credit cards at the Vatican in January. Don’t know if that has been resolved yet.

The Child Molesting scandal is growing worse - now Mahony , one of the most powerful Catholic leaders in the US has been stripped of his duties

And the Pope is fighting an internal power struggle.

Too much for the guy who didn’t even want the job.

He has been forced out over the Vatican Bank scandal.


25 posted on 02/12/2013 9:24:44 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Sounds good to me. Hope you’re right.


26 posted on 02/12/2013 9:25:25 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: RummyChick
"The pope had apparently tasked the financial executive with making the Vatican bank more transparent. But by approaching his task with perhaps an excess of zeal Gotti Tedeschi upset powerful forces within the Roman Curia, the Vatican's administrative and judicial apparatus. Several high-ranking officials within the Curia viewed the bank, officially known as the Institute for Works of Religion (IOR), as something akin to a trust company for clandestine monetary transactions that is not only used by the Church, but allegedly also by the mafia as well as corrupt politicians and companies. In one of the seized Gotti Tedeschi memos, he wrote: "I've seen things in the Vatican that scare me."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/a-growing-vatican-bank-scandal-threatens-catholic-church-image-a-842140.html

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It's bad when JP Morgan cuts you loose

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/06/26/the-vatican-bank-the-most-secret-bank-in-the-world/
"This past March, JP Morgan Chase closed a Vatican account in Milan after the IOR was “unable to respond” to questionable money transfers, according to Italy’s leading financial newspaper"
27 posted on 02/12/2013 9:41:00 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Believe it or not, Rummy, I agree with you on Angelo Sodano. I think that man gives every appearance of being deeply morally compromised, and a covert enemy of the Pope.

Furthermore, the Roman Curia IS full of political-minded players, and not all of them playing on the same team.

FWIW, here's my view:

From the moment he was elected, Pope Benedict made it clear that he hadn't wanted to be Pope: he said that the announcement felt "like a guillotine blade coming down."

Knowing that at his age he'd only have a few years, and knowing all the sotto-voce skulduggery that goes on in any big institution, especially the Roman Curia, I'm betting he has been planning for his successor from Day One back in April 2005.

He's a patient man. He's planned 15 moves ahead, putting the chess pieces in place. Now, announcing RIGHT before Lent, he's basically forcing the Cardinals to wrap it up quick, because none of them wants to be out of their Diocese for the whole Holy Season, and certainly not for Easter.

Plus, with Benedict still being alive, they can each of them come in to consult with him, personally, if they want, about his successor. And he can undermine the plotters (yes, there are plotters, too: people who side with the Enemy.) This careful planning--- I hope --- is the long-term architecture of the thing. I think Benedict's moves are wise, Spirit-guided, brilliant.

Then, Benedict is going to retire to a life of intense prayer in a monastic setting.

Something big coming.

Really big.

Good Christian friends, good people: pray, pray. pray.

28 posted on 02/12/2013 9:46:19 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the Living God: the Pillar and Foundation of the Truth." 1 Timothy 3:15))
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To: RummyChick

So what did the Pope and the Vatican Bank do when they could no longer take credit cards because of failure to comply with EU banking rules?????

What does a good mobster do??? Find a way around providing the transparency.

http://www.redliontrader.com/streamingnews/vatican-can-take-credit-cards-again/

Still think the Vatican isn’t hiding money laundering???

/


29 posted on 02/12/2013 9:46:34 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Sacajaweau
He only got to smile for 33 days.

CC

30 posted on 02/12/2013 9:48:38 AM PST by Celtic Conservative
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It appears to me that he is not strong enough to fight the Catholic “machine”.

It appears he wanted to clean up the Vatican Bank but maybe it can’t be cleaned up.

When you have an organization that has been standing as long as the Catholic Church - there are very powerful forces you have to contend with.

.

“”What you have to understand, John, is that sometimes there are forces and events too big, too powerful, with so much at stake for other people or institutions, that you cannot do anything about them, not matter how evil or wrong they are and no matter how dedicated or sincere you are or how much evidence you have. That is simply one of the hard facts of life you have to face.” ~ William Colby - Former CIA director found dead after a boating accident.


31 posted on 02/12/2013 9:53:53 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: goodnesswins
There were a lot of martyrs, plenty of scandals and then there's the Galileo fiasco.

The Pope thing of the Present is not the same as in the past.

32 posted on 02/12/2013 9:59:53 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: RummyChick

“The Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, is a powerful man in the Vatican. Maybe he is the most powerful. It was he who pulled in Brulhart. That should go some way to oil the investigation. How far is uncertain.”

http://www.stirringtroubleinternationally.com/2012/12/03/the-vatican-bank-is-about-to-get-cleaned-out-not-of-money-but-corruption-but-will-anyone-ever-believe-it/


33 posted on 02/12/2013 10:07:06 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

http://clericalwhispers.blogspot.com/2012/06/ex-head-of-vatican-bank-planned-to-give.html

Ettore Gotti Tedeschi feared for his life because his efforts to crack down on alleged money laundering and making the bank’s operations more transparent had targeted accounts held by mafia godfathers, the Italian media reported.
The banker was preparing to send a copy of a dossier of letters, emails and other documents that he had compiled to Monsignor Georg Ganswein, one of Benedict XVI’s two private secretaries.

He had also requested a private audience with the Pope a few days before he was ousted by the board of the bank on May 24 after three years at the helm of the institution.

He left instructions with his secretary to send two other copies to a lawyer and to a prominent Italian journalist, with notes saying that if anything happened to him, the explanation would be found within the documents.

The secret dossier consisted of 47 binders of documents, including some which related to Mr Gotti Tedeschi’s efforts to convince Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Vatican secretary of state and de facto prime minister, of the need to clean up the bank’s activities so that the city state could join an international “white list” of financially transparent countries.

Cardinal Bertone allegedly tried to water down some anti-money laundering regulations that Mr Gotti Tedeschi, 67, wanted to adopt, and engineered the banker’s dismissal.

The Vatican has denied the allegations and has claimed that it was in fact Mr Gotti Tedeschi who was dragging his feet on the reforms.


34 posted on 02/12/2013 10:11:03 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Alex Murphy
I don't have a conspiracy theory about this, I beleive Benedict is old and knows his time is short. He could wait but he's not which does make me wonder if he decided to act now so he could influence who his successor would be though.

For the past few papal elections there has always been buzz in the press (wishful thinking) about some uber-liberal cardinal getting the nod and ushering the church into a new era of enlightenment where values are relative,judgement is considered mean, "dogma" is set aside in favor of reaching out" and "inclusivness" and the church openly embraces liberation theology (a.k.a. marxism dressed in religous robes) but they've been disappointed when snarling conservative pontiffs like JP II and Benedict (whom the smeared with Nazi innuendo as "the panzer pontiff") have gotten in instead.

Perhaps Benedict wanted to ensure that the legacy of he and his mentor is not wiped aside by some John XXIII wannabe.

35 posted on 02/12/2013 10:13:31 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Then, Benedict is going to retire to a life of intense prayer in a monastic setting. Something big coming. Really big. People: pray, pray. pray."

Amen. I don't know what page you are reading from, but I think I found it last night. Just before prayers, I just got the very strong impression that "something has changed." What immediately came to mind was BXVI's resignation. Another thing that impressed me was that the burden of worry and anxiety for all that is happening felt somehow lighter. The Lord is Just. His timing is perfect. And HE IS WORTHY OF ALL PRAISE. Glory to Him, forever!

Oh, and I agree: PRAY, PRAY, PRAY. Remember Jesus' words, "This kind can only come out with prayer and fasting."

36 posted on 02/12/2013 10:14:09 AM PST by redhead (PRAY DAILY for a Restoration of the Righteous Intent of America)
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To: TSgt

Tsgt

I guess you know all about that.....


37 posted on 02/12/2013 10:52:21 AM PST by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: Alex Murphy

One person who got his first pacemaker in 1968 has gone through 12 of them and is still doing well.


38 posted on 02/12/2013 10:54:57 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Yes, he was reluctant. I think for pope’s one could apply D-fendr’s cop rule: “Anyone who really needs this job is disqualified for it.”

As I look back on his accomplishments, I am most amazed at the incredible and good effect he had in just eight years - while not in good health.

Thank God for Pope Benedict.


39 posted on 02/12/2013 12:19:33 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Rockiette
I guess you know all about that.....

LOL! Obsessive... projecting...

40 posted on 02/12/2013 12:34:43 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RummyChick
Rummy my friend:

Thank you most especially for this Catholic Herald-U.K. link:

VatiLeaks conspiracy against the Pope's most trusted advisor (Bertone)

Very enlightening. It seems our good German Shepherd is surrounded by wolves. Keep your eye on that man Angelo Sodano, who always seems to show a glint of lupine teeth behind his calculated smile.

41 posted on 02/12/2013 12:42:07 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Benedictus qui venit in Nomine Domini.)
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To: RummyChick

You forget that this Pope is in his 80’s when one is in one’s 80’s, you are very much thankful to be ALIVE. It could very well be health issues plus the stress of all the struggles mentioned.


42 posted on 02/12/2013 1:35:14 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The stress of all these struggles took its toll.


43 posted on 02/12/2013 1:37:14 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

My mother got one late last year.


44 posted on 02/12/2013 1:38:30 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

I think that’s a bg part of it. But I also think that Benedict is not “retiring from the fight to take it easy,” but making the best possible moves to get a good successor, plus placing himself into “the artillery position” for even more strenuous combat: intense prayer.


45 posted on 02/12/2013 1:45:17 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Prayer is the most difficult virtue, because it is warfare to the last breath." Abba Agathon)
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To: Biggirl

Pacemakers keep getting better and better. They are now able to non-invasively fine tune them, as well as to communicate with them over a distance. That is, a device in the person’s bedroom, connected to a phone line, that periodically checks on their heart function, then silently phones the doctor’s office and provides them with an EKG.


46 posted on 02/12/2013 3:21:44 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I like the way you think Mrs. D.


47 posted on 02/13/2013 5:37:08 PM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
Thank you. I was wrong about Benedict consulting with Cardinals before the conclave: he has just said he will not attempt to influence the electors in any way whatsoever. This is fine. The entire College of Cardinals (under 80, eligible to vote) was appointed by JPII and BXVI.

He will pray. Intense prayer is what he is seeking.

Let's join him. I am involved in one of those "40 Days for Life" vigils in front of the local abortion clinic. Spiritual weakling though I am, I find I can pray and fast when I'm on a sidewalk and can't do anything else.

48 posted on 02/13/2013 6:09:02 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Prayer is the most difficult virtue: it is warfare to the last breath." - Abba Agathon)
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