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To: marshmallow

Very good article.

I think, oddly enough, that reason was one of the things that took a hit after Vatican II, when in the minds of many, Christianity shifted to being a warm fuzzy instead of the coherent, intelligible belief system it had been. BXVI did a huge amount to change this and restore the intellectual depth of the Christian faith.


4 posted on 02/14/2013 8:05:52 AM PST by livius
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Vatican ll was a disaster for the Church. Homosexual priests (pink seminaries”), priests with girlfriends in public( “How can I preach “love”, If I don’t practice it”). My church, in NYC’s east village, St. Bridge’s (1857), built by Irish seafarers, was basically destroyed inside. Beautiful icons given away,marble alter ,rails, etc., the interior painted “battleship gray”. Two additions replaced all the interior beauty. Thirty foot, cloth signs, psychedelic paint, one reading “peace” the other “love”. You just about wanted to cry. God Bless John Paul II


5 posted on 02/14/2013 8:41:00 AM PST by capt B
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To: livius
Apropos. From the pope's talk to the priests of Rome today about Vatican II and how it was reported:
The media saw the Council as a political struggle, a struggle for power between different currents within the Church. It was obvious that the media would take the side of whatever faction best suited their world…

And we know that this Council of the media was accessible to all. So, dominant, more efficient, this Council created many calamities, so many problems, so much misery, in reality: seminaries closed, convents closed liturgy trivialized ... and the true Council has struggled to materialize, to be realized: the virtual Council was stronger than the real Council. But the real strength of the Council was present and slowly it has emerged and is becoming the real power which is also true reform, true renewal of the Church. It seems to me that 50 years after the Council, we see how this Virtual Council is breaking down, getting lost and the true Council is emerging with all its spiritual strength.

And it is our task, in this Year of Faith, starting from this Year of Faith, to work so that the true Council with the power of the Holy Spirit is realized and Church is really renewed. We hope that the Lord will help us. I, retired in prayer, will always be with you, and together we will move ahead with the Lord in certainty. The Lord is victorious. Thank you.


7 posted on 02/14/2013 9:10:27 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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