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'America needs the Ten Commandments'
WorldNetDaily ^ | Feb 17, 2013 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 02/17/2013 6:52:42 PM PST by wesagain

"WND founder to launch national billboard campaign featuring the moral law"

WASHINGTON – America has turned from God and has forgotten right from wrong, says WND founder Joseph Farah, who is announcing the launch a dramatic new national billboard campaign featuring the Ten Commandments to help awaken believers and non-believers alike to “the wickedness and evil that abound in our country.”

The campaign kicks off this week with 11 major billboards – all in the heart of what some call “sin city,” Las Vegas. Farah is asking for contributions from those who recognize the Ten Commandments represent the glue that holds civilization together to take the campaign nationwide.

“The problem is America is not limited to atheists, agnostics, cults and non-believers,” says Farah. “In fact, the biggest problem America has is with those who call themselves believers but who act no differently than the worldliest individuals on the planet. You can call these people backslidden. You can call them false converts. Or you can call them undiscipled, nominal believers. What they all have in common is they are not in obedience to God. They are not even trying to follow the most basic moral law, as Jesus and the prophets all instructed.”

With that in mind, Farah is planning to erect hundreds of Ten Commandments billboards around the country in a move that is sure to annoy the American Civil Liberties ..........

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
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1 posted on 02/17/2013 6:52:47 PM PST by wesagain
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To: wesagain

AMEN


2 posted on 02/17/2013 6:56:12 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: wesagain

They an important historical early codification of law, but I don’t think the problem with schools and the legal system is that they don’t preach the 10 Commandments.


3 posted on 02/17/2013 7:11:11 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: wesagain
WASHINGTON – America has turned from God and has forgotten right from wrong, says WND founder Joseph Farah, who is announcing the launch a dramatic new national billboard campaign featuring the Ten Commandments to help awaken believers and non-believers alike to “the wickedness and evil that abound in our country.”

Really?

Farah should run his own site through that filter, specifically with respect to the 3rd and 4th commandments. (For you Roman Catholics and Lutherans with a slightly different division, I'm referring to sabbath keeping and taking the name of God in vain.)

WND religion section has been known to push some weird, fringey stuff. If he would show some discernment and rein in the nuts, I'd pay WND a more respectful heed.

4 posted on 02/17/2013 7:16:47 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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To: GunRunner
"...I don’t think the problem with schools and the legal system is that they don’t preach the 10 Commandments."

Nope. The problem with the schools and the legal system is that they frequently preach open defiance of them.

5 posted on 02/17/2013 7:17:01 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

There’s only four that I can see that should be a part of the legal system. The one about your father and mother is subjective. If your father is an abusive drug addict, don’t honor him, run away.


6 posted on 02/17/2013 7:24:28 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner
There’s only four that I can see that should be a part of the legal system. The one about your father and mother is subjective. If your father is an abusive drug addict, don’t honor him, run away.

You misunderstand what it is to honor someone.

7 posted on 02/17/2013 7:30:34 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GunRunner
“...I don’t think the problem with schools and the legal system is that they don’t preach the 10 Commandments.”

Maybe and maybe not. But life was a lot more civilized when the public schools respected the Word of God and encouraged students to live their own life accordingly.

America was also a much stronger nation then; in terms of culture, economically, financially, and as a respected world power, than without the Christian God (of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob). I am of the opinion this is not a coincidence.

8 posted on 02/17/2013 7:38:53 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (A return to Jesus and prayer in the schools is the only way.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Good luck writing that law.


9 posted on 02/17/2013 7:39:47 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: MichaelCorleone

I don’t think the FedGov teaching religion will help. I would fault the establishment of the DOE, loss of local control, and the rise of teachers’ unions.


10 posted on 02/17/2013 7:45:37 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: MichaelCorleone

I agree. Think the commandments aren’t relevant today? Lets take a look at a few.

Keep holy the Sabbath... How many Americans go to church (any church) every Sunday? Seems to me you might drink a little less if you knew you had to look respectable in front of your community at 9:00 am the next morning.

Honor they father and thy mother. Children and young adults would be more respectful to everyone if they first respect their parents. Flash mob gangs of youths anyone?

Thou shall not steal.. legal ramifications clear here, also explain how giving everyone an A does not “steal” from those who really work hard. Same can be said about illegals.. they steal the resources from hard working americans trying to put food on the table.

I could go on...


11 posted on 02/17/2013 7:57:04 PM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: GunRunner
Good luck writing that law.

Writing what law?

12 posted on 02/17/2013 8:05:21 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: wesagain; FReepers; Patriots; FRiends

13 posted on 02/17/2013 8:07:25 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: OneWingedShark

The one that defines how you are required to honor an abusive parent.


14 posted on 02/17/2013 8:07:43 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: wesagain

God has turned His face from this once great nation, and has removed His blessings from us- We don’t want Him to be a part of our nation, and sadly He’s complying with our wishes- We’ve kicked Him out of practicalyl everythign public, and even go so far as to arrest folks for ‘violating’ their secularist laws that prohibit God in public- and this country foprsook truth and justice in favor of ‘gubmint handouts’, and sent a loud and clear message that they prefer eveil over morality and Godliness- they sent that message loud and lcear when they reelected his highness again for 4 more years.

I don’t know if there’s any coming back from this hell hole we’;ve slipped into, but we are becoming another soddom and ghomorrah where evil and homosexuality are favorable to heterosexuality and morality and honesty- We even have schools today prepping kids to be queer and encouragign them to be gay- but preventign htem from hearign hte truth-

I truly beleive God has removed His blessings on this nation


15 posted on 02/17/2013 8:28:24 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: wesagain

I’m starting to think America needs about 25 so far..
almost daily commandments are starting to add up..


16 posted on 02/17/2013 8:31:02 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: wesagain

[[Joseph Farah, who is announcing the launch a dramatic new national billboard campaign featuring the Ten Commandments to help awaken believers and non-believers alike to “the wickedness and evil that abound in our country.”]]

Be prepared for hte ACLU and hteir rabid supporters and anti-Christians to attack wityh lawsuits- which they will most likely win seeings how public places can’t even display a cross anymore in many places- God apparently is no longer welcoem ghere in Aemrica as per orders of the ACLU


17 posted on 02/17/2013 8:32:04 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: wesagain

If America obeyed only the Commandments that forbid coveting and theft, that would stop socialism, which is based on those sins.


18 posted on 02/17/2013 8:32:04 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: wesagain

sorry...the RATS have already turned them into the 10 suggestions


19 posted on 02/17/2013 8:44:04 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: GunRunner
The one that defines how you are required to honor an abusive parent.

Honor
  1. honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions: a man of honor.
  2. a source of credit or distinction: to be an honor to one's family.
  3. high respect, as for worth, merit, or rank: to be held in honor.
  4. such respect manifested: a memorial in honor of the dead.
  5. high public esteem; fame; glory: He has earned his position of honor.
Again, I reiterate: you misunderstand what it is to 'honor', I direct your attention to the definition above, particularly the bold & underlined definition. That definition is the the most applicable, though the others are too. Applying it to the commandment is to be a source of credit to your parents, the sort of person that makes people say that they did a good job raising you. (That they did or did not is no matter, the point is your character; to put it in militaristic terms, serving under a cruel and despotic commander would not alleviate me of the accountability of acting with dignity and respect to him or to others.) Nothing about 'honor' is to encourage a soft yielding-capitulation to evil.

As the bold-only shows, there is a respect element. "Respect" is not a self-effacement, but to hold in some manner of esteem. To go back to the military example: even if the commander is a lying cheat there is no excuse for me to discount his authority "because he's a bad guy." To react that way would be to undermine my own dignity.

20 posted on 02/17/2013 8:44:45 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Ok, then how would you word the law codifying it? You are also quoting the noun form of honor. Being commanded to “honor thy father and mother” is the verb form. If you are to honor your father and mother, that honor must be earned. As I said, it’s subjective.


21 posted on 02/17/2013 8:49:55 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner
Ok, then how would you word the law codifying it?

Who said anything about codifying it?

You are also quoting the noun form of honor.

So what? To enact Honor-as-a-noun is to make it a verb: that is, enacting it is to do it.

Being commanded to “honor thy father and mother” is the verb form.

See the above.

If you are to honor your father and mother, that honor must be earned. As I said, it’s subjective.

No, it is not 'earned'. That is a fallacy that we have today, encouraged (in the reverse) by the public-schools in something I term Appeal To Self-authority. In that form, the argument goes that the person in authority is in authority because they "earned it"*, and the proof of that is that they have authority. (*and are qualified, and morally unimpeachable.) This Appeal to self-authority is rampant right now: just look at our president, or our congress, or our supreme court.

22 posted on 02/17/2013 8:57:41 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Farah said that the legal system needed the 10 Commandments. I think it's reasonable to ask how that Commandment would be codified into law.

Look, I think "do your folks proud" is a great rule of thumb for most people. But calling it a universal commandment is a stretch. If you're from the Manson Family, or the Hitler Family, a better Commandment would be to honor yourself, your own conscience, or your progeny. Once again, it's subjective.

23 posted on 02/17/2013 9:07:37 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner
Look, I think "do your folks proud" is a great rule of thumb for most people. But calling it a universal commandment is a stretch.

Not at all; all one would have to do would argue that the Ten Commandments are universal. -- Of course if one wanted to they could counter that the Mosaic Law was not laid upon the early gentile Christians (Acts...16? -- basically they sent a letter w/ four commands).

If you're from the Manson Family, or the Hitler Family, a better Commandment would be to honor yourself, your own conscience, or your progeny. Once again, it's subjective.

I disagree; "do your folks proud" (which I read a being a credit to your family) isn't dependent on your folks, it's dependent on you... and how can you honor yourself and NOT be a credit to them? It is impossible, as far as I can tell.

Farah said that the legal system needed the 10 Commandments. I think it's reasonable to ask how that Commandment would be codified into law.

What do you think the Mosaic Law is? It is the codification thereof.

24 posted on 02/17/2013 9:44:20 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: CottShop
How sad and true -

....My thought for the day....."Even though I don't claim to understand all things, my God and the author of The Book does. I can stand behind what He's written with confidence that He will stand behind me through all circumstances. Believe the Word of God and stay the course..... I don't let the world or other people choose for me which parts of the bible are correct and which parts we should overlook."

25 posted on 02/18/2013 3:17:10 AM PST by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: OneWingedShark

But US law is not Mosaic law. I’m not required by law to refrain from working on Sunday, and I’m not bound to follow any religious law. I don’t see what Farah’s point is about the legal system and the 10 Commandments, since unless you want to criminalize adultery (which has enforcement in some civil cases, like divorce), penalties against theft, murder, and false witness is already there.


26 posted on 02/18/2013 9:48:45 AM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: longfellowsmuse

The Sabbath is on Saturday.


27 posted on 02/18/2013 9:56:46 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: GunRunner
But US law is not Mosaic law. I’m not required by law to refrain from working on Sunday, and I’m not bound to follow any religious law. I don’t see what Farah’s point is about the legal system and the 10 Commandments,

I'm not Farah, I won't give you the 'point'.

since unless you want to criminalize adultery (which has enforcement in some civil cases, like divorce),

It's a possibly-capital crime under the UCMJ.

penalties against theft, murder, and false witness is already there.

But do those actually mean anything?
I could make a strong case that they do not, especially when you consider them applying [or rather not-applying] to our government. Fast & Furious was certainly based on false-witness (the FBI green-lighted those who should not have been), and its implementation is easily arguable as a conspiracy to murder [Mexicans]. The legitimization of theft certainly happened in 2005 with Kelo, and that's not even considering 'forfeiture' laws where they seize property under mere suspicions.

28 posted on 02/18/2013 9:59:12 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
But do those actually mean anything?

Yes, they do mean something. We have one of the highest incarceration rates on the globe and we execute a whole bunch of murderers annually.

29 posted on 02/21/2013 9:24:05 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner
>>But do those actually mean anything?
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>Yes, they do mean something. We have one of the highest incarceration rates on the globe and we execute a whole bunch of murderers annually.

According to this [somewhat dated] the average time is a little over 12 years. This newer data puts it as almost 15 years.

According to this list there were 49 [US] executions in 2012 -- how many murders do you think happened last year? Rapes?

I realize that's not exactly an apples-and-apples metric: the 2012 murderers may not have even been caught, much less tried, much less sentenced.... but it illustrates my point: that there are vastly fewer executions than there are even murderers -- and that is NOT taking into account the government's now-overt lawlessness: again, Fast & Furious provides an excellent example. The implementation thereof was either negligent homicide [in the case of mass incompetence], or it was conspiracy to commit mass murder [in the case that the intent was to provide weapons to the cartels for use in Mexico].

30 posted on 02/22/2013 10:33:35 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
I just don't see the point here. We execute just about as many people annually as we always have since the death penalty was reinstated, we have a historically low murder rate, and a historically high incarceration rate.

So yes, the laws mean something, and they are being enforced about as strongly as they ever have. I don't see anything in this equation that would be helped by posting the 10 Commandments on highway billboards.

31 posted on 02/22/2013 10:47:03 AM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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