Skip to comments.Cardinal......Blames Gay Priests for Abuse Scandals Facing Catholic Church [Turkson]
Posted on 02/22/2013 11:03:35 AM PST by marshmallow
Cardinal Peter Turkson made the comments to an American journalist
He said similar sex scandals would not happen in African churches
Cardinal Turkson is second favourite to take over as Pope
The African cardinal widely tipped to be the first black pope in modern history faced a firestorm of criticism last night after he laid the blame for clerical sex abuse crises at the feet of gay priests.
Cardinal Peter Turkson, who comes from Ghana, told an American journalist that similar sex scandals would never convulse churches in Africa because the culture was inimical to homosexuality.
African traditional systems kind of protect or have protected its population against this tendency, he told Christiane Amanpour of CCN.
Because in several communities, in several cultures in Africa homosexuality or for that matter any affair between two sexes of the same kind, are not countenanced in our society, he continued.
So that cultural taboo, that tradition has been there, said Cardinal Turkson, 64. It has served to keep it out.
As the head of a major Vatican department the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace - Cardinal Turkson is ranked as the 5/2 second favourite to take the papal crown when a Conclave of Cardinals meets next month to elect a successor to Pope Benedict XVI, who announced his abdication last week on the grounds of ill health
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It used to be the same in western society. The devil has used his time well to undermine societies based around faith in God.
The press finally got something right.
He may be stating the obvious, but that won’t stop anti-Catholics and bitter ex-Catholics from ripping him over these comments— or even just using the opportunity to rip into the Church in general. Seems to be an obsession with some people.
Disagree with his premise. There’s probably just as many gay priests in Africa, but when kids are abused by them, they probably keep their mouths shut for fear of being called gay too (just like happened in this country for many decades). Abuse of children by adults — gay or not — is not new. It’s just that as a society we in the West are no longer willing to sweep it under the rug, and children are encouraged to speak up if someone is being awful to them (in whatever form).
faced a firestorm of criticism last night after he laid the blame for clerical sex abuse crises at the feet of gay priests.
The condition is almost always associated with homosexuality because it is the adult homosexual who has the sexual interest in the adolescent boy. In the case of abuse by priests, it always involves a gay priest.
What's ironic is that this has been known for a long long time. The Vatican issued a directive back in 1961 forbidding the ordination of any man with a homosexual disorder. It existed before and existed after the directive was given, and even today we continue to ordain men with a homosexual disorder.
It certainly is stating the obvious. My impression is that in the 1960s - 1970s the Catholic Church seminaries became an easy place for homosexuals to âhide outâ. These folks âgraduatedâ to their offices and preyed on children. I think the Catholic Church was blindsided - but notwithstanding this surprise infestation, their response was slow. Also, in some cases where they sought to cover-up the problem (by transferring known pederasts to unsuspecting parishes), their reaction was criminal.
Naw, they'd just burn down the church with the women and children still inside. No witnesses, no crime...
Cardinal Peter Turkson is very perceptive. However, I’m sure that studies show that he’s mistaken.
Who else can you blame except maybe the gay Bishops who helped hide them.
Well, I think you could blame parents. Especially the parents who sought compensation rather than justice. And justice for some might be as simple as paying the offending “priest” a visit or notifying his superiors or legal authorities of the incident.
I have always said that if you found a priest who was abusing your child, do not call the diocese, call the sherriff.
And don’t let the diocese talk you out of it.
Lock that pervert up, collar and all.
The simple truth makes liberals scream. Homo men in the church have raped a lot of boys. How shocking. Not.
As a professor at a Catholic seminary in the 70’s I knew of rampant homosexuality among the seminarians. As a liberal UMC pastor with Unitarian leanings, at the time, I was not dismayed. Today I am disgusted at the lack of moral clarity I experienced well into the 80’s.
Pardon my ignorance, but how many black popes have there been?
Well, I guess the media will cross Turkson off its list of allowable Papal candidates now. Maybe he’s not the ecclesiastical Obama they were looking for ... LOL.
Is he suggesting that because 81% of the victims by male priests were themselves male is somehow connected to the question of whether the perpetrators were homosexual ?
Uh, I thought priests are supposed to be celibate. Therefore, they do not have sex. If they do not have sex, how are they designated as ‘gay’ priests or ‘straight’ priests? Do they fill out a questionnaire that asks: If you had sex who would you prefer? I don’t think so! If they do have sex they should no longer be priests. Am I wrong about this?
What really pisses me off is that it seems that these priests are having more sex than I am!! :)
I’m with you on that. No matter what faith you are the minute it is found out your child has been molested call the police! Members of any clergy are not above the law, esp God’s law.
What he is saying, then, is that the church is governed by the surrounding culture and isn’t an agent of change.
The culture made me do it.
Not an impressive display of future pope-hood.
And yet the UN are in a large part encouraging the downfall of morality by promoting all sorts of evil such as homosexuality all over the world. I would be interested to know if the UN big wig sees the irony.
They're prolly too busy thinking.."go to,let us bake bricks"
Some catholics here bring it on themselves
Like the thread today proclaiming folks who did not follow the Pope were following Satan
In any event this cardinals honesty is refreshing
More candor than heard here over that grand tragedy
Really? Interesting. I know that the vast majority were Italian, with a few other nationalities mixed in. I recall there being a few from North Africa, but these were not Black Africans (i.e., sub Saharan)
“He may be stating the obvious, but that wont stop anti-Catholics and bitter ex-Catholics from ripping him over these comments or even just using the opportunity to rip into the Church in general.”
Really; the media wants the Church to allow deviants into their ranks, only to rip the Church apart when they do what deviants do. It reminds me of the banks being strong-armed by the government to give mortgages to unqualified minorities, then being accused of exploiting unqualified minorities with lending schemes...
“Disagree with his premise. Theres probably just as many gay priests in Africa, but when kids are abused by them, they probably keep their mouths shut for fear of being called gay too (just like happened in this country for many decades).”
I don’t think so, and for the same reason that the number of Hispanic victims in the US scandal was so low: the fathers would have a duty to kill the offender (and they would do it). In much of Africa merely a rumor of homosexuality can lead to someone being beaten or in some cases killed; they know it is not just a violation of God’s Law, but they also blame them for AIDS.
Many of the US victims had no father; chances of that in Africa are smaller as well.
They were from the Roman/Vandal kingdoms of North Africa, as black as South African Boers; liberal American Catholics pretend we had black popes to sell the faith to blacks, but I don’t believe we’ve had one yet.
I would like to have one, from one of the African countries where Muslims routinely persecute & kill Christians; they know the real deal, and will lead the Church in the cultural war the current hierarchy (excluding Benedict XVI and a few stalwarts) won’t fight.
My father’s response would have been more, er, immediate. The “priest” would have had a visit, then trouble talking or eating for weeks.