Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: freedumb2003; Colofornian

Read in Acts Chapter 5 where Gamiliel gives sage, sound advice: (I am paraphrasing) If these Christians are not from God, they will be scattered and amount to nothing; but if they are from God, they will prosper. ‘Nough said.


5 posted on 02/23/2013 1:31:31 PM PST by District13 (Obama scares me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]


To: District13

Deuteronomy 18:20-22 says this:

“A prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death. You may say to yourselves, ‘How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?’ If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously...”

Joseph Smith made numerous prophecies that failed to come true. Since the criteria is a single failed prophecy, obviously Smith is a false prophet.

http://carm.org/false-prophecies-of-joseph-smith

God is eternal and almighty; He was never a man, and He is not flesh and blood. We don’t have the potential to become gods after we die, and we don’t get our own planets. Jesus paid for our sins on the cross, not in the garden of Gethsemane. And (Lord forgive me for speaking this blasphemy)God did not have sex with Mary to impregnate her.

You’re free to have those beliefs, but don’t call them the Gospel of Jesus Christ. They are not, and they never will be.


8 posted on 02/23/2013 2:44:09 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

To: District13

For those who are interested:

Acts 5
(KJV)

1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,

2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.

3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.

7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.

8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.

9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.

10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.

11 And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon’s porch.

13 And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified them.

14 And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women.)

15 Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them.

16 There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed every one.

17 Then the high priest rose up, and all they that were with him, (which is the sect of the Sadducees,) and were filled with indignation,

18 And laid their hands on the apostles, and put them in the common prison.

19 But the angel of the Lord by night opened the prison doors, and brought them forth, and said,

20 Go, stand and speak in the temple to the people all the words of this life.

21 And when they heard that, they entered into the temple early in the morning, and taught. But the high priest came, and they that were with him, and called the council together, and all the senate of the children of Israel, and sent to the prison to have them brought.

22 But when the officers came, and found them not in the prison, they returned and told,

23 Saying, The prison truly found we shut with all safety, and the keepers standing without before the doors: but when we had opened, we found no man within.

24 Now when the high priest and the captain of the temple and the chief priests heard these things, they doubted of them whereunto this would grow.

25 Then came one and told them, saying, Behold, the men whom ye put in prison are standing in the temple, and teaching the people.

26 Then went the captain with the officers, and brought them without violence: for they feared the people, lest they should have been stoned.

27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,

28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man’s blood upon us.

29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

33 When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them.

34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space;

35 And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men.

36 For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.

37 After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.

38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:

39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.

40 And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go.

41 And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.

42 And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.


9 posted on 02/23/2013 2:48:31 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

To: District13
Read in Acts Chapter 5 where Gamiliel gives sage, sound advice: (I am paraphrasing) If these Christians are not from God, they will be scattered and amount to nothing; but if they are from God, they will prosper. ‘Nough said.

Except that the growth rate of the mormon church is basically that of the BIC rate. Converts drop out sooner and in greater numbers. Missionaries are leaving at a large rate. Hey, good, send us more and younger missionaries that we can show the errors of mormonism to and lead them out of the mormon church and to the real Jesus.

12 posted on 02/23/2013 3:41:51 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

To: District13; freedumb2003; teppe; Ripliancum
Read in Acts Chapter 5 where Gamiliel gives sage, sound advice: (I am paraphrasing) If these Christians are not from God, they will be scattered and amount to nothing; but if they are from God, they will prosper. ‘Nough said.

Note to ALL: Gamiliel was not a Christian.

(Lds love to cite non-Christians to reinforce what they say when Christian sources are sadly lacking)

So District13, out of ALL of the Christians speaking in the New Testament, you could only find a non-Christian to cite for reinforcement?

30 posted on 02/23/2013 5:22:28 PM PST by Colofornian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

To: District13
Read in Acts Chapter 5 where Gamiliel gives sage, sound advice: (I am paraphrasing) If these Christians are not from God, they will be scattered and amount to nothing; but if they are from God, they will prosper. ‘Nough said.

Then early Christians should have forsworn Jesus Christ and become pagan, since pagans covered the whole world at the time, and by your logic God had certainly blessed the pagans more than the followers of Jesus.

In modern times, if you follow the theory that popularity equals Godly approval, then you would be a Muslim today. And vote Democrat.

33 posted on 02/23/2013 5:42:24 PM PST by fattigermaster (Train for life in prison because they are stacking the bricks and setting the bars around you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

To: District13
If these Christians are not from God, they will be scattered and amount to nothing; but if they are from God, they will prosper.


 
 

JESUS: Hey Smith! Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?

JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?

JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?

JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!

JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.

JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!

JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.

JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.

JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?

JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)

JESUS: That's it.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: Nah - it was right.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.

JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.

JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!

JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?

JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....

JESUS: What did you say?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.

JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.

JESUS: No...

JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?

JESUS: Nope.

JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!

JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: No; it wasn't.

JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?

JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?

JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.

JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.

JOSEPH SMITH: But....

95 posted on 02/24/2013 4:19:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson