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Cardinal joins in Muslim prayer in the Great Mosque of Lyon
Catholic Church Conservation ^ | 25/02/2013 | Chris Gillibrand

Posted on 02/25/2013 10:47:31 AM PST by Gillibrand

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To: wideawake

I’m a Catholic. My pagan ancestors worshiped their gods the same as yours did. Saint Patrick preached a message of love, for God the Father, Jesus and one another. He didn’t teach them to go out and start slaughtering people in his name or Gods. What business does any Christian have in a mosque? ‘’Witnessing’’ to what, a creed that is intolerant to every other faith and makes no bones about it? A creed who’s founder was a murdering , illiterate degenerate who raped a nine year old child and seduced his own daughter-in-law? A creed that sanctions lying and ‘’honor killing’ and calls my Jewish brethren ‘’pigs and monkeys’’and whom Heinrich Himmler called ‘’the perfect religion for the warrior’’? You dodged every question I put to you. What miracles did Mohammed perform and who’s sins did he die for? Contrast the life of Mohammed with that of the life Jesus Christ.


21 posted on 02/25/2013 9:10:25 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: wideawake; jmacusa

You’re not very “wide awake.”

The moslum prayer is a complete denial of Yeshua, his diety, and his saving blood.


22 posted on 02/25/2013 9:16:59 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Are you ‘’wide awake’’? Did you read my post? You’re preaching to the choir here. Maybe you can answer the questions I posed.


23 posted on 02/25/2013 9:30:09 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: wesagain

Islam hasn’t murdered 270 million. That number is way bogus.


24 posted on 02/26/2013 6:38:38 AM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: jmacusa
"No follower of Christ as any business being in the company of such heathen mongrels unless"

Can you provide a scripture of Jesus commanding us not to be in the presence of sinners?

As long as the Cardinal didn't violate any Catholic rules, I think reaching out to the Muslims is a good thing.
25 posted on 02/26/2013 6:47:09 AM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: MeOnTheBeach
"Islam hasn’t murdered 270 million. That number is way bogus"

NOT TRUE! Here's is the evidence...

1400 Years of Islam.... Dr. Bill Warner

26 posted on 02/26/2013 8:32:55 AM PST by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: wesagain
NOT TRUE! Here's is the evidence...

This has come up before -here- The 270 million number has been thoroughly debunked. It's based on bad assumptions and spurious math, not fact.
27 posted on 02/26/2013 9:03:00 AM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: MeOnTheBeach

OK - Maybe you’re correct.......250, 230, 200 Million murdered?, beheaded?, burned?.....look at this century, millions more! What’s your point?


28 posted on 02/26/2013 10:09:39 AM PST by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: jmacusa
Perhaps you're being deliberately obtuse.

Upthread you said that Christians should avoid the company of heathens.

However, St. Patrick - himself an exemplary Christian - did not avoid the company of heathens.

Why should Cardinal Barbarin reject St. Patrick's example and take your advice instead?

29 posted on 02/26/2013 11:06:43 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

These heathens kill. They worship death, hate Jews and Christians and are determined to keep on killing. Answer the questions I put to you bozo or shut up.


30 posted on 02/26/2013 11:21:37 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: MeOnTheBeach

And what has your reaching out done for you? Have you converted any of these animals? Why is all this ‘’reaching out ‘’ one way? Christians doing the ‘’reaching out’’ and not Muslims? My Catholic faith tells me to resist Satan and all his false promises and all his works.Islam is that false promise and Mohammed was Satan. As ‘Ive told that other idiot, contrast the life of Mohammed with that of Jesus Christ.


31 posted on 02/26/2013 11:29:10 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: MeOnTheBeach

Colossians 3:5-6. Galatians 5;19; 21. Matthew 7:6.


32 posted on 02/26/2013 11:40:14 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: MeOnTheBeach

Corinthians 5;11, 6;14.


33 posted on 02/26/2013 11:45:52 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: wideawake

Nobody understands why a french Catholic bishop would do this, with an imam who condemned the kidnapping of 7 french adults and children by African Muslim terrorists and led his followers in prayer that they be released. Or why the story could possibly have been made public, it’s almost like he hopes his puzzling actions with this imam who prayed for the hostages to be released are spread far and wide, for some strange reason. It truly is a puzzle that may be beyond our understanding for all time. Obviously.

Freegards


34 posted on 02/26/2013 11:46:08 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: wesagain
"OK - Maybe you’re correct.......250, 230, 200 Million murdered?, beheaded?, burned?.....look at this century, millions more! What’s your point?"

The true number is around 10 - 20 million. You're still trying to inflate the number. If you read the post you'll see it's about the same amount as Christianity.

Thou shall not bear false witness is the point.
35 posted on 02/26/2013 11:57:27 AM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: wideawake

“Then think on this: how did your ancestors - also heathens - come to find Christ if Christians were obliged to shun their company?”


Simple, we aren’t commanded to not preach to them. We are commanded to shun their sins and false religions, and are not to give aid and comfort to enemies of God.

“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”(2Co 6:14-18).

And again,

“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.”
(2Jn 1:9-11)

Praying with false religions certainly violates the spirit of scripture, which will not tolerate any false religion to share a sense of equality with Christ. Islam is a false religion, and we cannot agree with it under any circumstance, or commune with them under any religions context, even in the smallest of things.

Our commandment is simple, Go and preach to all nations, teaching them Jesus. And our example is easily seen in the works of the Apostles, who went around the world crying “Repent!” and urging all to give up their false gods.


36 posted on 02/26/2013 12:10:34 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: jmacusa
Are you honestly arguing that Jesus commanded us not to take the gospel to every single person on earth?

Is that really the argument you're trying to make?

Because if you apply Corinthians 5;11 or the rest of these scriptures you've referenced the way you're trying to do, 99.9999% of all Christians shouldn't be allowed near a church.

Maybe you should look at the story of Jonah. Jonah was sent to preach to a lost city that God intended to destroy. If Jonah followed your direction an entire city would have been destroyed.
37 posted on 02/26/2013 12:12:56 PM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: MeOnTheBeach

Maybe you ought to live among the head-choppers pal or peddle your bs on some other web-site. In case you haven’t noticed this isn’t a Muslim-friendly web-site. In any case go fly a kite, Islam’lover.


38 posted on 02/26/2013 12:20:30 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: MeOnTheBeach
You signed up last October just to posit the moral equivalency of Islam and Christianity? Or are you generally a shill for atheism and found this a convenient way to lash out at two religions at once?

I bet you enjoyed doing that almost as much as you enjoyed voting for Obama twice.

39 posted on 02/26/2013 12:31:52 PM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: jmacusa

Why was it good for St. Patrick to go among the heathen?


40 posted on 02/26/2013 1:49:21 PM PST by wideawake
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