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Pope Benedict XVI says goodbye to his red shoes
The Washington Times ^ | 02/26/2013 | Cheryl K. Chumley

Posted on 02/26/2013 9:18:01 AM PST by Alex Murphy

Retiring Pope Benedict XVI gets to keep a couple titles — “Your Holiness Benedict XVI” and “emeritus pope” — and his white cassock. But he’s turning in his signature red shoes and going brown.

Vatican spokesman Rev. Federico Lombardi said the pope decided on his future wear — which has been widely discussed since he announced his retirement — in consultation with Vatican officials, according to The Associated Press.

Replacing the red shoes will be the hand-crafted brown loafers given him during a 2012 visit to Mexico, the AP states.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing
Retiring Pope Benedict XVI gets to keep a couple titles — “Your Holiness Benedict XVI” and “emeritus pope” — and his white cassock. But he’s turning in his signature red shoes and going brown. Vatican spokesman Rev. Federico Lombardi said the pope decided on his future wear — which has been widely discussed since he announced his retirement — in consultation with Vatican officials, according to The Associated Press.
1 posted on 02/26/2013 9:18:05 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Where is any of this “uniform” prescribed in scripture?


2 posted on 02/26/2013 9:20:49 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

No doubt Nike will try and turn a quick buck off of this with the hasty release of some shocking red Pope Pumpers.


3 posted on 02/26/2013 9:22:44 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Alex Murphy

There’s no place like Rome, There’s no place like Rome, There’s no place like Rome, There’s no place like Rome, ........


4 posted on 02/26/2013 9:23:07 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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“The angels wanna wear my red shoes”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab_IO-SlK5w


5 posted on 02/26/2013 9:34:16 AM PST by RBStealth
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To: Red Badger

“There’s no place like Rome, There’s no place like Rome, There’s no place like Rome, There’s no place like Rome, ........”

en toto.


6 posted on 02/26/2013 9:35:36 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Alex Murphy

This is getting into the Third Prophecy of Fatima, where the “Bishop who was dressed in white like the Pope but was not” suffers enormously and is then killed at the foot of the Cross...after walking through the bodies of the dead faithful who suffered in the persecution.

Laugh if you want.


7 posted on 02/26/2013 9:36:33 AM PST by livius
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To: fwdude

This all carefully detailed in the Book of Catholicians. Right between the selling and buying of indulgences and praying to the saints. You really need to read up on this stuff.


8 posted on 02/26/2013 9:39:47 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: fwdude
Don't even bother. I don't. You cannot have a discussion about scripture to people who elevate tradition above scripture...who ignore their own history...change the rules in mid stream (for example: No salvation outside the church was originally meant to be something TOTALLY different than the revisionism that goes on now...and any attempt to say Boniface VIII didn't mean YOU ARE GOING TO HELL if you aren't Catholic is embarrassing. It would be easier to say he was wrong than to say he actually meant something else...when history proves what he meant)...who elect popes as teens and who sell the seat of Peter (which hmmm...nevermind) and who elevate people to the seat who live immoral lives, having children out of wedlock.

It ain't worth it...and I won't even respond to any response (from a Catholic).

9 posted on 02/26/2013 9:41:55 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: livius

Wasn’t that the vision Pius X had?


10 posted on 02/26/2013 9:42:53 AM PST by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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To: BipolarBob
You really need to read up on this stuff.

I really don't have the time (a lifetime.) The Bible is much, much, much shorter.

11 posted on 02/26/2013 9:43:01 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Red Badger
Rats! You beat me to it.
12 posted on 02/26/2013 9:45:45 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Now that he is retired, he can spend more time fishing, so all he we need are the shoes of a fisherman.


13 posted on 02/26/2013 9:45:45 AM PST by fhayek
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To: Perdogg

Pius X had a similar vision, but the details are in the Third Secret, which was released only partially. Some people thought that JPII, with the assassination attempt, was the “Bishop in white” in question. But he survived and reigned for 20 years after the attempt, so I think it’s much more likely that it referred to BXVI, especially after reading this.


14 posted on 02/26/2013 9:49:41 AM PST by livius
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To: fwdude
Where is any of this “uniform” prescribed in scripture?

The same place you'll find secret conclaves, white smoke and regnal names.
15 posted on 02/26/2013 9:51:07 AM PST by TSgt (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.)
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To: fwdude

I guess I really did need to put the /sarc tag in there. My bad.


16 posted on 02/26/2013 9:51:10 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: livius
but the details are in the Third Secret, which was released only partially.

Why the need for secrecy at all? God works in the open. Satan works in secret.

17 posted on 02/26/2013 9:53:46 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: BipolarBob
So, are you trying to say that Jesus was up to no good in the unrecorded years of His earthly tenure?

And when He was born to obscure parents in a barn, and hid in Egypt?

Are you saying that the early Christians should have just tossed aside that whole catacombs idea, being that it was "secret" and all?

18 posted on 02/26/2013 10:00:54 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
No doubt Nike will try and turn a quick buck off of this with the hasty release of some shocking red Pope Pumpers.

Air Benedicts!

19 posted on 02/26/2013 10:04:56 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
So, are you trying to say that Jesus was up to no good

The early years of Jesus served no purpose to be recorded.
And when He was born to obscure parents in a barn, and hid in Egypt?

Obscure parents were deemed the best way for him to be raised and Egypt was a safe haven as were the catacombs. Seeking safety is not the same as withholding "revelations" from God. We are not to hide the light under a basket.

20 posted on 02/26/2013 10:07:25 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Alex Murphy
I might recommend these to the Pope:


21 posted on 02/26/2013 10:09:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Alex Murphy
The Pre-Republic Kings of Rome wore red shoes as an insignia. Julius Caesar started wearing red shoes during his dictatorship, leading Rome to speculate that he saw himself as their king. I don't recall whether the emperors following Caesar kept up the practice, but I'm sure that is the origin of the Papal tradition.
22 posted on 02/26/2013 10:25:12 AM PST by Dan Cooper
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To: Red Badger

LooooooL.....


23 posted on 02/26/2013 10:42:04 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; All
Thank you for your home page ...

It deserves a thread of its own.

24 posted on 02/26/2013 10:42:20 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: BipolarBob

No, sometimes it’s better for people not to know the details immediately. That prevents a revelation from being manipulated...or resulting in something that is very common in the Protestant world, with people being freaked out and standing on their rooftops waiting for the Apocalypse. This has happened many times in US Protestantism, and was then followed by those same people filing lawsuitsto get back the properties they had given away, thinking the end of the world was coming.

What this prophecy says is that seriously bad times are coming. But we all knew that anyway, and anybody who couldn’t read the signs of the time was probably too dumb to understand a prophecy anyway.


25 posted on 02/26/2013 10:43:24 AM PST by livius
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To: Alex Murphy

I’m sure there’s some deep significance to all of this but it just seems to elude me.

When asked how many pairs of loafers he had the Pope said most of the people working for him.


26 posted on 02/26/2013 10:49:41 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: livius

I have never seen anyone confuse little weird cults with “US Protestantism”.

Is that what immigration has done?


27 posted on 02/26/2013 11:32:46 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: Alex Murphy

Wow, don’t these people have anything better to do? The man is sick. Our Pastor told us he’s nearly blind and emaciated. What difference does it make what he wears? I thank him for his service to the Church.


28 posted on 02/26/2013 12:01:12 PM PST by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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To: siamesecats

I too not only thank Pope B16 for his service to the Church.

I am very impress he was able to get 3 books out on the life and times of Jesus. They are very deep reads. Doing the writing must have taken its toll on him.


29 posted on 02/26/2013 12:28:06 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: TSgt

The White House and “Hail to the Chief” aren’t in the Constitution, but they are part of American heritage. I’m glad scripture doesn’t have excruciating details on this. If the Church wants to handle the costume question by saying, “well, what did we do the last time this issue came up?” that’s just being practical, and in some cases, even charming, if the custom is old enough and quirky enough.


30 posted on 02/26/2013 12:53:17 PM PST by married21
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To: fwdude

The shoes your pastor wears are prescribed in Scripture? Really?


31 posted on 02/26/2013 1:17:53 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: TSgt
"Secret conclaves" arose to keep outsiders from influencing what went on. Like, you know, buying votes and stuff. Like how Obama got elected.

"Regnal names" started when a Pope was elected whose given name was identical to that of a Roman pagan god ("Mercurius"). He thought that was an inappropriate name for a Pope.

You got me on the white smoke.

32 posted on 02/26/2013 1:20:48 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: fwdude
Yeah! Everybody knows this is the real scriptural uniform:


34 posted on 02/26/2013 1:47:35 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Anyone else notice that Hinn’s uniform is very Catholic in style?


35 posted on 02/26/2013 1:49:09 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
Now this is "biblical" style!


36 posted on 02/26/2013 2:12:24 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Yeah! Everybody knows this [Benny Hinn's white "Neru" jacket] is the real scriptural uniform

It goes with the hair.

37 posted on 02/26/2013 2:18:07 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: All

Jesus Christ’s Church is open to every sinner.

http://www.catholicscomehome.org/


38 posted on 02/26/2013 2:50:27 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: fwdude
THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS!!

If you don't look like that, you're seriously back-slidden, brother!

(Cough, cough.) It's not prescribed in Scripture. (Permit me a tiny eye-roll. Where's you get that idea??!)

The only NT couture and fashion directives I can think of offhand are from Paul, viz: no long hair for the guys (a little puzzling because Jesus is always portrayed with long hair... but not the Approved Model pictured above!); and women, wear head veils. I think he also said no braids, pearls, or gold on the women. (OK on the men?)

I'm curious, FReeper/lurker Christian women! How many wear head veils?

39 posted on 02/26/2013 2:51:32 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the Living God: the pillar and foundation of the truth." - 1 Tim 3:15)
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To: BipolarBob; Wyrd bið ful aræd
Luke 8:10
He said, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of God; but to others I speak in parables, so that‘looking they may not perceive, and listening they may not understand.’
40 posted on 02/26/2013 2:59:40 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the Living God: the pillar and foundation of the truth." - 1 Tim 3:15)
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To: fwdude

Nehru, man!


41 posted on 02/26/2013 3:03:20 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the Living God: the pillar and foundation of the truth." - 1 Tim 3:15)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Wasn’t the Nazarite (sp?) order of Old Testament Israel designed to express total separation to God? The adherent was not to drink any wine, not even the fruit of the grapevine, and was not to shave or cut his hair. He was to remain ceremonially clean - no exceptions.

I think this might be why Jesus is depicted (I cringe at any depiction of Jesus because they are all bound to be idolatrous notions invented by the unclean mind of the depictor) as having long hair. Surely, he was separated to God from the womb. But maybe that was just an Old Covenant device and the New brought a new “style.”


42 posted on 02/26/2013 3:58:55 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
You're talking about the Guest who provided 180 gallons of wine for the family friend's wedding feast, right?

The One who said that unlike Cousin John the Baptist (who was criticized for not eating, drinking, or consorting with sinners), He (Jesus) was criticized for eating AND drinking AND consorting with sinners.

Wine-bibber!

Jesus is so -- just --- wow. Both fulfilled the Law and confounded all expectations.

43 posted on 02/26/2013 4:15:36 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the Living God: the pillar and foundation of the truth." - 1 Tim 3:15)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

So, Jesus contributed to drunkenness?


44 posted on 02/26/2013 4:27:44 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

There’s nothing in the Wedding Feast text (John 2:1-10) about “drunkenness”. The text does specify “six stone water jugs,” each holding “20-30 gallons”. That would be 120 - 180 gallons of wine.


45 posted on 02/26/2013 4:54:47 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the Living God: the pillar and foundation of the truth." - 1 Tim 3:15)
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To: fwdude

Were any of your clothes prescribed by scripture either? Or the suits of r telepastor? Or the high hair of the pastoress?


46 posted on 02/27/2013 3:48:36 AM PST by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: fwdude
So you're saying Jesus didn't convert water to wine? And didn't share wine at the last supper?

Wow, lovely revisionism...puts your other comments in perspective

47 posted on 02/27/2013 3:51:25 AM PST by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: fwdude; Mrs. Don-o; D-fendr
It's very strange how we have ignorant folks who've never heard of this guy

And who've never read history or the Bible -- it's very strange how they then comment on what they have no idea about...

48 posted on 02/27/2013 3:55:22 AM PST by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: siamesecats; Alex Murphy
s: Wow, don’t these people have anything better to do?

I don't believe they do -- AM, you posted another few articles like this right?

49 posted on 02/27/2013 3:56:24 AM PST by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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