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Swiss Guards seal gates, leave service of Pope Emeritus
cna ^ | February 28, 2013

Posted on 02/28/2013 2:04:29 PM PST by NYer

Doors of Castel Gandolfo closed. Credit: EWTN.

Vatican City, Feb 28, 2013 / 12:41 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- With the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI on Thursday evening, the Swiss Guards have left their posts and sealed the gates of the former pontiff's temporary residence of Castel Gandolfo.

A crowd of Catholic faithful gathered Feb. 28 outside the papal vacation spot. At 8 p.m. Roman time, a loud bell rang eight times as they shouted “Viva il Papa!” or “Long live the Pope!”

The Swiss Guards entered Castel Gandolfo and hung up their ceremonial weapons – called halberds – on the inner walls as there is no longer a sitting Pope for them to protect.

Vatican gendarmes dressed in black uniforms have relieved the guards. The doors of Castel Gandolfo have been sealed, symbolizing the vacancy of the See of Peter and the lights of the papal residence in Vatican City are dark.

Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI has exchanged his red papal shoes for simple brown ones given to him on his recent trip to Leon in Mexico. He now wears a simple white cassock without the mozzetta – the short cape that covers his shoulders.

Benedict XVI traveled to Castel Gandolfo by helicopter and car two hours before his resignation took effect. Hundreds of Catholic faithful greeted his arrival to hear his final words as pontiff.

“I’m simply a pilgrim that is starting the last stage of his pilgrimage on Earth,” he remarked, “but I would still like with my heart, with my love, with my prayer, with my reflection, with all my inner strength to work for the common good of the Church and of humanity, and I feel very supported by your sympathy.”

“Let’s go ahead together with the Lord for the good of the Church and of the world,” he said before making his final apostolic blessing.

“Thank you and good night. Thanks to all of you,” Pope Benedict said before departing from the Castel Gandolfo balcony.

Now that he has resigned, the former Pope will live at Castel Gandolfo for two months before moving to a monastery inside Vatican City. In the upcoming days, 115 cardinals will gather at the Vatican to elect his successor.


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KEYWORDS: benedict; swissguards; vatican
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1 posted on 02/28/2013 2:04:41 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

I hope you are following the coverage on EWTN. Vatican Correspondent, Joan Lewis, has done an outstanding job these past few days, providing interesting insights into how the Vatican functions, crops grown on the grounds of Castel Gandalfo and a host of other fascinating facts and figures.

2 posted on 02/28/2013 2:09:01 PM PST by NYer (“Beware the man of a single book.” - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

Everything within the Catholic religion seems to be so ritualistic, down to the removal of the Pope’s red shoes and the “defacing” of his ring. Why is that? Why is it necessary?


3 posted on 02/28/2013 2:09:32 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (God bless you Tommy and thank you for your service: http://swiftboats.org/tribute/tribute.html)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Try looking it up on the internet. The answers are out there.


4 posted on 02/28/2013 2:10:58 PM PST by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: NYer
But the ex-pope still drove away in an amored car to the helipad

and has Uzi-armed bodyguards at the castle-

The castle AND THE VATICAN are not gun-free zones= SORRY!!

5 posted on 02/28/2013 2:13:47 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Marchione.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

he had a nose ring? i didnt know that


6 posted on 02/28/2013 2:19:48 PM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Hot Tabasco

“Everything within the Catholic religion seems to be so ritualistic. Why is that”? Oh, maybe because it’s a RELIGION!


7 posted on 02/28/2013 2:20:30 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: bunkerhill7
With that in mind, check out the remarks of Dolan, who is ostensibly in the running.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2990320/posts

8 posted on 02/28/2013 2:25:29 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Hot Tabasco

—— Everything within the Catholic religion seems to be so ritualistic, down to the removal of the Pope’s red shoes and the “defacing” of his ring. Why is that? Why is it necessary? ——

It’s not necessary. But do we only perform actions that are necessary?

Do you object to the presidential inauguration?

I don’t, even though it’s not necessary. But it is fitting.

Catholics believe that the Pope is the successor in office of Peter. So these ceremonies are fitting for such an exalted office.


9 posted on 02/28/2013 2:29:15 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Can we make this a Caucus thread, so that we don’t have to wade through this garbage? Please?


10 posted on 02/28/2013 2:31:21 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Hot Tabasco; nanetteclaret
Everything within the Catholic religion seems to be so ritualistic, down to the removal of the Pope’s red shoes and the “defacing” of his ring. Why is that? Why is it necessary?

The pope wears red shoes to remind him (and us) that he has committed his life to God, right down to the shedding of his blood. In the first centuries, the majority of those elected pope knew their reign would be short and end in martyrdom.

As for defacing the ring, EWTN's news director, Raymond Arroyo addressed that very question the other day, on his blog. Here is the explanation.


The destruction of the Papal Ring: Since so many of you are asking, I'll give you a brief rundown. The Ring of the Fisherman represents the Pope's authority and his office. The lead seal of the ring holds a bas relief of St. Peter the Apostle gathering fish from the side of his boat. Above the image is the name of the present Pope--the latest successor of Peter.

In days gone by, the ring was used to seal official papal documents. The image on the ring was impressed upon the wet wax on the back of a letter or envelope. Traditionally people in an audience with the Pope will kiss his ring as a display of affection for the office and the man who occupies it. Once a Pope dies, or in this case, retires, the ring must be destroyed. This is done by the Camerlengo (the chamberlain who runs the day to day affairs of the Church in the Pope's absence). He will go into the papal apartment, deface the seal with a knife and smash it with a mallet. This represents the end of the Pope's authority and his reign. The smashed ring is collected and usually buried with a Pope. This time the ring's remnants will likely be reserved until Benedict, the Pope Emeritus, goes to his reward.

A new ring bearing the next pope's name will be cast and placed on his finger during the inaugural Mass, signifying his supreme authority in the Church. Much more in the days ahead. Stay tuned. Our first World Over broadcast from Rome will be on March 7th. See you then.

The interregnum (period without a pope) and conclave (where the cardinals are literally locked up until they elect a successor) are steeped in tradition and can be quite fascinating. The best coverage will be provided by EWTN (check your local cable/satellite dish provider for the station. There you will gain great insight into how these practices evolved, why cardinals wear red, who governs the church when there is no pontiff and what is happening behind those closed doors. Best of all, coverage is without commercial interruption.

Should you have any other questions, do not hesitate to ask. I will do my best to provide an answer or point you in the right direction.

11 posted on 02/28/2013 2:34:37 PM PST by NYer (“Beware the man of a single book.” - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Hot Tabasco
The ring is the Pope's seal.
It is necessary to deface the ring to avoid forgeries.
12 posted on 02/28/2013 2:36:19 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; Hot Tabasco; massgopguy

Freeper Hot Tabasco posed a sincere question to which I have provided a response (see post #11). I am grateful for the question and the opportunity afforded all of us to share some facts regarding these interesting rituals. Check out the response. It’s quite enlightening.


13 posted on 02/28/2013 2:39:47 PM PST by NYer (“Beware the man of a single book.” - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Dolan`s a hypocrite and an idiot-

he belongs in a gun-free zoned nunnery

14 posted on 02/28/2013 2:58:57 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Marchione.)
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To: nanetteclaret
Try looking it up on the internet. The answers are out there.

Guess there's no further use in asking questions on this site's religion forum........Sorry I took up anyone's time, especially yours...

15 posted on 02/28/2013 3:04:15 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (God bless you Tommy and thank you for your service: http://swiftboats.org/tribute/tribute.html)
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To: NYer

I didn’t know that. Thanks!


16 posted on 02/28/2013 3:12:02 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: beebuster2000
he had a nose ring? i didnt know that

Who said that? It wasn't me......

Maybe you need to ask some questions..........

17 posted on 02/28/2013 3:15:12 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (God bless you Tommy and thank you for your service: http://swiftboats.org/tribute/tribute.html)
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To: Hot Tabasco

You have FReepmail.


18 posted on 02/28/2013 3:19:40 PM PST by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: Hot Tabasco

pomp and circumstance are not Christianity


19 posted on 02/28/2013 3:19:57 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: massgopguy; nanetteclaret
Try looking it up on the internet. The answers are out there.

Oh, maybe because it’s a RELIGION!

I tried a Baptist church for a year and they didn't have all those rituals. You need to give me a better explanation than that..........Better yet, don't.

I don't need your crap or any other snarky comments to a legitimate question. You're pretty much reinforcing most of the negative impressions I've been trying to ignore about religion for most of my life........

Sorry to bother you....

20 posted on 02/28/2013 3:27:34 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (God bless you Tommy and thank you for your service: http://swiftboats.org/tribute/tribute.html)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Evidently you didn’t get my FReepmail wherein I apologized.


21 posted on 02/28/2013 3:30:43 PM PST by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Everything within the Catholic religion seems to be so ritualistic, down to the removal of the Pope’s red shoes and the “defacing” of his ring. Why is that? Why is it necessary?

The Church has survived for two thousand years. Name a currently-surviving institution that comes close.

22 posted on 02/28/2013 3:31:50 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Catholics believe that the Pope is the successor in office of Peter. So these ceremonies are fitting for such an exalted office.
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Such ceremonies apparently weren't fitting for Peter. Do you and fellow Catholics know something Jesus didn't?
23 posted on 02/28/2013 3:36:58 PM PST by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Everything within the Catholic religion seems to be so ritualistic, down to the removal of the Pope’s red shoes and the “defacing” of his ring. Why is that? Why is it necessary?

Because it's a religion. All religions are ritualistic. Hindu, Buddahism, Mormon, Catholic. Now if you want to know Christ, you need Christianity which is a relationship with our Savior. It's not a man-made religion.
24 posted on 02/28/2013 3:45:35 PM PST by Old Yeller
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To: Hot Tabasco

you said he was de-facing his ring so i assumed you meant he had a Papal nose ring he had to take out of his face. wasnt that what you meant?


25 posted on 02/28/2013 3:49:57 PM PST by beebuster2000
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To: JCBreckenridge; Hot Tabasco

“Garbage?” Hot Tabasco is asking “garbage?” Is this how you treat those who are curious about the church of your faith? I’d hate to see how you act with people who are hostile.


26 posted on 02/28/2013 3:53:24 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: bramps

All these weird traditions have nothing to do with Christianity or the Bible, they are like superstitions over centuries. More and more got added.

“Pope throws holy salt over left shoulder, this is symbolic of the salty sweat of Jesus on the cross”

The praying to anyone but Jesus is unchristian in the extreme. There are no holy people besides Jesus, none of the Saints (all appointed by humans to some imaginary heavenly post) are any higher than any other dead human, we are all equal in the eyes of God.

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Who was the first person to be called a “Pope”? Was it Emperor Constantine?
..........

How do Catholics explain the Holy Roman Empire and the role of the Pope and their church in it?
.........

Jesus did not come to create a bureaucratic church, any time people come together to worship in his name, that is church. This does not require a Pope or a Catholic Church.


27 posted on 02/28/2013 3:54:21 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Hot Tabasco

He is no longer the leader of 1 BILLION Catholics and Vicar of Christ.<P.The red shoes symbolizes that he walks in the BLOOD of the MARTYRS!!!


28 posted on 02/28/2013 3:59:27 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

STOP.....we are more than happy to answer questions that we know the answer to!!!! SOme of us, including MOI,don’t have ALL the answers, but they are out there.


29 posted on 02/28/2013 4:03:08 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: GeronL

Does your Baptist Bible the text about Jesus giving Peter the Keys to the Kingdom....and Jesus told the Apostles that “what you Bind on earth shall be Bound in Heaven and what you Loose on earth will be Loosed in Heaven”??? If YOUR KJBIble doesn’t have those words, then it isnt a complete Bible....if it does have those words, you should HEED THEM....Jesus’s OWN WORDS....HELLO???


30 posted on 02/28/2013 4:07:35 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: GeronL

Of COURSE it’s a bureaurecratic Church!! Even in the time of CHRIST, the apostles had different charges....Judas was in charge of the PURSE......geesh.....hard to go from 12 to ONE BILLION and NOT have a bureaucracy!!!!!


31 posted on 02/28/2013 4:10:19 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION........the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: Ann Archy

we all have the keys to the Kingdom, its called the Gospel


32 posted on 02/28/2013 4:10:53 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
Who was the first person to be called a “Pope”? Was it Emperor Constantine?

No, it was a Patriarch of Alexandria, 100 years before Constantine, that preferred boogieman of fundamentalists. Nobody ever called Constantine "Pope".

How do Catholics explain the Holy Roman Empire and the role of the Pope and their church in it?

The Holy Roman Empire, a loose confederation of mostly German states ... that Holy Roman Empire? The Holy Roman Emperors (so-called) mostly didn't like the Popes, and the Popes didn't like the emperors. You're not still upset about the whole Henry IV thing, are you? (Look it up.)

So as far as the Holy Roman Empire, we're mostly agin' it.

33 posted on 02/28/2013 4:10:53 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: GeronL; Jim Robinson

You know, I am not Catholic.

However it is classless and sickening to hear someone critizie the faith, beliefs or rituals of others.

Give it a break.


34 posted on 02/28/2013 4:11:23 PM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Campion

So, who were the best Popes?

Alexander VI?

Julius II?


35 posted on 02/28/2013 4:12:05 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Chickensoup
However it is classless and sickening to hear someone critizie the faith, beliefs or rituals of others

I know I wish they would stop attacking protestants at every turn

36 posted on 02/28/2013 4:14:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Ann Archy
“what you Bind on earth shall be Bound in Heaven and what you Loose on earth will be Loosed in Heaven”

and? Somehow, to you, that means we should follow the Catholic Church?

37 posted on 02/28/2013 4:15:22 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Jesus addressed Peter specifically and said he was giving him the “keys of the kingdom of heaven”. The keys are a symbol of delegated royal authority, see Isaiah 22:22.


38 posted on 02/28/2013 4:15:39 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion

please spare me.

Even if I thought Peter was annointed to head the church, the present Catholic Church bears almost no resemblance to anything Biblical.


39 posted on 02/28/2013 4:18:03 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

“Jesus did not come to create a bureaucratic church, any time people come together to worship in his name, that is church. This does not require a Pope or a Catholic Church.”

Don’t be so sure you know what God intended for the earth. It’s all rather complex and well outside of your understanding.

The Church carried the Truth of the Lamb of God out of the holy land and to the world. That was a big job. The Church also carried much of science and learning through the dark ages. Another big job. The church may not be as wise or enlightened as you are today but possibly, SOMEWHERE along two thousand years it served a purpose.


40 posted on 02/28/2013 4:20:37 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: GeronL

Real Christians don’t bait.


41 posted on 02/28/2013 4:21:00 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Ann Archy
If YOUR KJBIble doesn’t have those words, then it isnt a complete Bible

Hi Ann...big fan of yours (another old-timer here). Don't get peeved at me, please, but Mormons say if you don't include the Book of Mormon, you don't have a complete Bible. I have a lot of respect for the churches (all of them. They save souls), and they all have exclusions of other faiths, especially when it comes to the texts. We're all believers of God here, as opposed to the worshipers of the moon-god allah.

42 posted on 02/28/2013 4:21:31 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: GeronL

I know I wish they would stop attacking protestants at every turn

________________________

I have no idea. But just because someone else is tasteless doesn’t mean you have to eat garbage too.


43 posted on 02/28/2013 4:23:53 PM PST by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Every church says they are the one true church


44 posted on 02/28/2013 4:25:29 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
the present Catholic Church bears almost no resemblance to anything Biblical.

You're welcome to your opinion, but it's a opinion plenty of people don't agree with. Some of them seem to both learned and holy to me. Why is your opinion better than theirs?

As far as "sparing you," I think all of us should pray very hard to be spared.

45 posted on 02/28/2013 4:27:02 PM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: NYer

Mad Holy Rollers on the march again speaking tonques gibberish, why not make it a Caucus thread.


46 posted on 02/28/2013 4:28:28 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Campion

do you think the first Popes, a couple centuries after Peter had all the traditions, superstitions and symbolism of the present Catholic Church?


47 posted on 02/28/2013 4:32:16 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Campion

I don’t have anything against the Catholic Church, they do a lot of good stuff. I am just sick and tired of the “one true church” crap.


48 posted on 02/28/2013 4:34:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: bunkerhill7

May I remind you that Bendict XXI was also a head of state.

How many presidents or prime-minsters have you seen in armored cars?

Please check your fact before posting.

God bless His Holiness, Benedict XVI, Pope Emeritus.


49 posted on 02/28/2013 4:35:48 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: bunkerhill7

**Dolan`s a hypocrite and an idiot-
he belongs in a gun-free zoned nunnery**

Are you playing God on judgment day?


50 posted on 02/28/2013 4:38:23 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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