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G'Town Prof: Let's All Resign from The Church To Get a Radical Pope
Creative Minority Report ^ | March 2, 2013

Posted on 03/02/2013 1:10:44 PM PST by NYer

A professor at Georgetown University wrote a piece in the NY Times advising Catholics to resign from the Catholic Church in light of Pope Benedict's resignation.

Paul Elie is a senior fellow in the Berkley Center for Religion, Peace and World Affairs at Georgetown, and he says that Catholics should boycott Mass (a mortal sin) as a way to instigate change, namely selecting a Pope that would introduce radical change.

This is just so fitting of a Georgetown professor and the New York Times. Here's some of the most outrageous parts:

AT 8 p.m. last night in Vatican City, Benedict XVI resigned the papacy. Now American Catholics should consider resigning too.

The conventional wisdom has it that Benedict’s resignation sharply reduced the aura of the papal office, showed a tender realism about old age, and made clear that even ancient Catholic practices could be changed. That is all true, but the event’s significance is more visceral than that. It has caught the mood of the church, especially in North America.

Resignation: that’s what American Catholics are feeling about our faith. We are resigned to the fact that so much in the Roman Catholic Church is broken and won’t be fixed anytime soon.

So if the pope can resign, we can, too. We should give up Catholicism en masse, if only for a time...

In traditional parlance, Benedict’s resignation leaves the Chair of St. Peter “vacant.” So I propose that American Catholics vacate the pews this weekend.

We should seize this opportunity to ask what is true in our faith, what it costs us in obfuscation and moral compromise, and what its telos, or end purpose, really is. And we should explore other religious traditions, which we understand poorly.

For the Catholic Church, it has been “all bad news, all the time” since Benedict took office in 2005: a papal insult to Muslims; a papal embrace of a Holocaust denier; molesting by priests and cover-ups by their superiors. When the Scottish cardinal Keith O’Brien resigned on Monday amid reports of “inappropriate” conduct toward priests in the 1980s, the routine was wearingly familiar. It’s enough to make any Catholic yearn to leave the whole mess for someone else to clean up...

A temporary resignation would be a fitting Lenten observance. It would help believers to purify and deepen our faith in the light of our neighbors’ — “to examine our own religious notions, to sound them for genuineness,” as the American writer Flannery O’Connor put it. It would let us begin to figure out what in Catholicism we can take and what we can and ought to leave. It might even get the attention of the cardinals who will meet behind the locked doors of the Sistine Chapel and elect a pope in circumstances that one hopes would augur a time of change.

And it might dispel the resignation we feel. Most ordinary believers have given up hope that the church will change its ways. But Benedict’s resignation reminds us of a truth we have known all along: change in the church can happen, even dramatically. If so hidebound an institution as the papacy can be changed, what can’t be?

A Georgetown University professor advising Catholics to give up Catholicism? I could see why he wouldn't think it was a big deal as Georgetown has already done so.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: academicbias; anticatholic; cino; culturewar; georgetownuniversity; naughtyteacherslist; paulelie; popeabdicates

1 posted on 03/02/2013 1:10:48 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Let’s begin with the professor and send him packing.


2 posted on 03/02/2013 1:12:48 PM PST by NYer (“Beware the man of a single book.” - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

http://repository.berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/PaulElie.jpg

strange looking dude. Looks like he’s waiting for the mothership.


3 posted on 03/02/2013 1:16:44 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: NYer

Typical Leftist.

Never content to start their own organizations, or find other organizations that more closely follow their beliefs - they always have to corrupt existing ones. Much like they have to destroy this country rather than moving to the many that already exist that put their philosophies into practice.

History is filled with people who went their own way from the Catholic church, often forming new churches with like minded people. But that’s not enough apparently.


4 posted on 03/02/2013 1:18:57 PM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: NYer
What Did He Just Say?
5 posted on 03/02/2013 1:23:13 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (RETURN TO MECCA [http://youtu.be/zWQkaDUCJ_Y])
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To: NYer

“professor at Georgetown University”

The most unqualified man in the world.


6 posted on 03/02/2013 1:23:23 PM PST by edcoil (Half of every class gratuates at the bottom, they are now politicians.)
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To: smoothsailing

He IS the mothership.


7 posted on 03/02/2013 1:24:55 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It occurs to me that if all the liberal pretenders left the CC that the CC would become less “radical” and not more.


8 posted on 03/02/2013 1:28:35 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: NYer
So if the pope can resign, we can, too...We should seize this opportunity to ask what is true in our faith, what it costs us in obfuscation and moral compromise, and what its telos, or end purpose, really is.

Notice there's no setting aside of self as Benedict did. This type of self exaltation is the opposite of Benedict's humility. Benedict renounced his office. These folks seem eager to assume many of his roles for themselves. I'd hardly call that resignation from the Church. Sounds like they separated themselves long ago.

Peace be with you.

9 posted on 03/02/2013 1:28:56 PM PST by PeevedPatriot
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To: chrisser
Never content to start their own organizations, or find other organizations that more closely follow their beliefs - they always have to corrupt existing ones.

Their goals have long been to tear down the establishment. Smash monogamy. Smash the patriarchy. Smash the state.

They are an intolerant lot of Communists.

11 posted on 03/02/2013 1:34:11 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: GeronL

That simple fool talk about change and radical. Let’s say he gets everything he wants. Then change and radical would mean mean going back to the original so what’s his point?

Why doesn’t he just put on a dress and go his homo way?


12 posted on 03/02/2013 1:43:22 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (RETURN TO MECCA [http://youtu.be/zWQkaDUCJ_Y])
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To: NYer

Say, wasn’t Georgetown once a Catholic university?


13 posted on 03/02/2013 1:48:29 PM PST by Robwin
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To: NYer
nothing more embarrassing than a Catholic feeling his Protestant oats and forgetting WE ALREADY EXIST!!!!

In America it's an option to actually become a Protestant.

My own church accepts Catholic baptism and there's a perpetual novena ~ ('cause we have so many converts ~ usually due to divorce ~ they can do such things).

I'd send this peckerwood an invitation but I know he's not sincere ~ he's all hung up on the Pope and who gets what jobs in the hierarchy ~ a couple of things Protestants just don't get into.

14 posted on 03/02/2013 1:53:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: NYer

What a goofball. Don’t let the door hit you, bud. The Episcopal Church Welcomes You!


15 posted on 03/02/2013 1:54:03 PM PST by Tax-chick (We don't like original material, unless it's been done before.)
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To: NYer

The ironic thing is, it is the Georgetown basketball program with 6 others that is leaving what is left of the Big East to form its own b-ball conference. That is sooooooooo very radical!


16 posted on 03/02/2013 2:13:53 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: NYer

Surprised? Not really. Just one more intellectual A-hole Georgetown U professor exhibiting his ignorance. Resign? Well, this guy resigned from the Catholic Church a long time ago. He just wants the rest of us Catholics to buy into his brand of “Catholicism.” Just one more Catholic in name only. One more reason why our Bishops and Archbishops need to crack down on these Jesuit Universities who continue to spread heresy.


17 posted on 03/02/2013 2:25:05 PM PST by CdMGuy
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To: CdMGuy
need to crack down on these Jesuit Universities who continue to spread heresy

The Jesuites haven't been Catholic for a generation.

18 posted on 03/02/2013 2:52:01 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: NYer

I’ll never understand why so many people who renounce the teachings of the Church still refer to themselves as Catholics.

The door opens both ways. Leave to find a religion that fits what you actually believe and we part friends.

Just sayin’...


19 posted on 03/02/2013 2:58:51 PM PST by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: All

This guy is an occasion of sin. Please don’t listen to him.


20 posted on 03/02/2013 3:06:33 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

What’ he doing teaching Catholicism?


21 posted on 03/02/2013 3:07:30 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: a fool in paradise

Sickening, please don’t do that again.

He doesn’t qualify.


22 posted on 03/02/2013 3:08:55 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer
But will her resign from Islam?

I think not.

23 posted on 03/02/2013 3:11:44 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: NYer
We should give up Catholicism en masse, if only for a time...

Could this be the dumb@ss that came up with the "boycott gas stations for a day" idea?

24 posted on 03/02/2013 3:27:23 PM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: NYer

Sounds like this “professor” resigned from the faith a long time ago.


25 posted on 03/02/2013 3:29:09 PM PST by circlecity
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To: NYer

He quotes Flannery O’Connor for support? I’m thinking that if she were not rolling in her grave, she would slap him upside the head.


26 posted on 03/02/2013 3:30:51 PM PST by married21
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To: married21; NYer
She would ABSOLUTELY slap him upside the head.

"Everywhere I go, I'm asked if I think the universities stifle writers. My opinion is that they don't stifle enough of them."
- Flannery O'Connor


27 posted on 03/02/2013 4:22:43 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance, and give you peace.)
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To: smoothsailing

Do they have gay aliens?


28 posted on 03/02/2013 4:34:29 PM PST by tiki
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To: NYer

Catholic you aren’t.

Stay away from the pews? It isn’t the priest one meets on Sunday.

It is Christ in the Eucharist.

I must give this professor a scintilla of doubt for charity, but anyone who thinks this way does not believe in the Real Presence.


29 posted on 03/02/2013 4:36:52 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: FatherofFive

The new pope could do worse than suppress the order, which has lost its charisma.


30 posted on 03/02/2013 7:50:23 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: NYer

The Church will be standing long after all of us.

Anyone remember Joe “How-many-divisions-does-the-pope-have?” Stalin?


31 posted on 03/02/2013 8:09:20 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: NYer

I’d love it if all those who truly no longer believe in what the Church teaches would leave. If they want to be part of a religious experience that accepts all the things they now believe in, they can join the Episcopal Church. It has some of the trappings of the Catholic Church without all those inconvenient rules.


32 posted on 03/02/2013 9:30:07 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: NYer
Let’s begin with the professor and send him packing.

Not going to happen.
I have a deep and permanent emotional connection to Georgetown. Albeit, as far back as 1993 I saw unsettling trends at the university, where the perverts had gained a foothold at the Jesuit Institution, and gained a certain frightening legitimacy.

This story just disappointingly suggests that things have deteriorated further.

33 posted on 03/02/2013 9:30:29 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

LOL!


34 posted on 03/02/2013 10:58:30 PM PST by married21
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To: NYer
"...he says that Catholics should boycott Mass (a mortal sin) as a way to instigate change, namely selecting a Pope that would introduce radical change."

Here's a prayer to offer up for this guy, and anyone else he manages to "Counsel" or "Provoke" into following his lead:

PRAYER FOR THE CONVERSION OF SINNERS

Lord Jesus Christ, most merciful Saviour of the world, we humbly beseech You, by Your most Sacred Heart, that all the sheep who stray out of Your fold may one day be converted to You, the Shepherd and Bishop of their souls, who lives and reigns with God the Father in the unity of the Holy Spirit, one God forever and ever. Amen.

35 posted on 03/03/2013 7:07:45 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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