Skip to comments.‘Church changing big time,’ says Cardinal Dolan
Posted on 03/03/2013 10:30:28 AM PST by NYer
.- An American cardinal said Sunday that the Catholic Church is undergoing a lot of changes.
“The Church is in the business of change big time,” Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan said at St. Peter’s Basilica during a Mass he celebrated for U.S. journalists at 10:30 a.m. local time.
He said that many journalists had been asking him if he believed the new pontiff would make changes within the Church.
“Jesus calls us first and foremost not to change structures, but to let God change us inside,” he said at the Basilica’s catacombs in the Hungarian Chapel.
The 63-year-old cardinal said he himself needs the changes of “conversion, repentance and spiritual renewal” to better reflect “the heart of the Gospel.”
“What we’re doing right now is what makes the Church live and it’s more important than electing a Pope,” said Cardinal Dolan during his homily. “It’s a lot more important for the lives of the hundreds of millions of Catholics who went to Sunday Mass this morning.”
Cardinal Dolan said it is Mass that helps Catholics understand “the very nature of the papacy.”
“Saint Paul says ‘I hand down to you what I myself have received’,” he said. “That is the very nature of the papacy, to hand on faithfully what God told Jesus, what Jesus told his apostles and what his apostles hand on to us traditionally.”
Turning to the day's Gospel reading, the cardinal explained that the people of the time were trying to understand what God was telling them when they had tragedies.
“They were trying to figure it out just like we try to figure out tragedies, sickness and suffering in our life,” said the prince of the Church.
Jesus, he said, “brings us back to the basics" by stressing the need for repentance and the need to hear everyone.
“Don’t always try to figure out God’s will all the time, but try to figure out what God is asking you to do inside,” he advised.
“It is a call to renew your life, to repentance of heart and to conversion of soul.”
The Church is in the business of change big time, Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan said
I think what the Cardinal actually said is clear enough: the church helps people change their lives. It is in the change business. It has always helped people change, and it will continue to do so. People can change. The church is unlikely to.
: - ) Of course! He was addressing the msm. What's that expression? "You gotta give 'em what they want"? Or words to that effect. And, yes, his message was spot on.
A couple days ago I predicted he’ll be the next Pope. We shall see.
His Eminence obviously practices his facial expressions in front of a mirror.
Here ya go:
NOT a msm interpretation, from Catholic sources and quotes, and never an “I agree with Pres. Bush, Abortion is sick”, when interfering with politics where he should never be:
New York City, N.Y., Feb 20, 2013 / 02:00 am (CNA).- Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York highlighted President Barack Obama’s call for sensible steps on gun control, noting that it is an area of agreement for the two leaders.
I found myself nodding in agreement when the President said, ‘...Overwhelming majorities of Americans Americans who believe in the Second Amendment have come together around common-sense reform, like background checks that will make it harder for criminals to get their hands on a gun,’ the cardinal said.
In a Feb. 15 post on his blog, The Gospel in the Digital Age, he explained that he was very much in favor of legislation passed by New York last
- claim he is all things to all people
- be seen as a great uniter
- be seen as a necessary change agent
- elicit the kind of worship seen among Obama adorers.
He will have a worldwide honeymoon of six months media adoration after which he will begin his real work of turning Catholicism into the religious equivalent of Progressivism. Then, he will:
- soften the church's stance on abortion
- embrace homosexual marriage
- endorse the redistribution of wealth
- decry all military action
- loudly proclaim ecumenism as the road to world peace.
He will be a lamb who speaks like a dragon.
Dolan loves his Catholic faith and wears it on his face. The only time I have ever seen a change in his demeanor was 20 minutes after he received news that Pope Benedict was stepping down. Matt Lauer invited him on the Today show to answer questions. Dolan had that "deer in the headlights" look about him. The closest he came to interjecting any humor was when Lauer asked him how the conclave works. Dolan joking replied that he was still unpacking the red socks from last year's consistory then went on to say this was all new to him and he, like everyone else, would await further information.
Care to tell us by what criteria you arrived at that notion. I, for one, would be fascinated to know.
Another prognosticator in our midst .. or is this Divine revelation? No doubt other visitors to this thread would be interested in learning how you arrived at this conclusion and which of the 115 cardinals do you feel best meets such criteria. Look forward to your response.
The cardinal like Pope Benedict, is talking about the church organization shrinking and adjusting to the loss of following, money and power in the West. The Pope spoke about it getting back to it’s roots of the past (Jesus). He has competition to “change” in a way that surrenders to evil/global liberalism. The American government having the nerve and power to order the church to fund abortion pills and birth control is an example of what they are dealing with in the US, Canada and Europe.
The church ‘change” may go all the way to the dark side (come out of the closet - “evolved” and push globalism’s amorality/ fascism) or it may weed out and cut off the evil corruption of secular power and become Christian again. Reform from evil would isolate it even more from power in the West.
Either way, the congregation will shrink. The liberals (the cafetaria mob) will abandon the church and step up power and cultural attack it if it becomes Christian and rejects evil (judges right from wrong) and the conservatives will abandon it if it openly gives into evil (names evil, good).
Sooner or later the evil (global communist power players with the gay mafia “ethics’) in the church will fall because Jesus will not abide it in His church. When it does fall, it will be a whole different spiritual experience.
Could not agree more. For those who would see, it is quite clear what is coming to the RCC. This is one of the greatest problems with papal infallibility. When anyone else (other than a pope) tells you something patently false, their opinion on other issues is diminished and so is their ability to lead others astray.
A pope on the other hand can be wrong on multiple issues and continue to do great harm. I pray I am wrong but I see a huge schism coming. If the next Pope pushes such things, People will be forced to choose and it will be a terrible choice.
For the benefit of those who do not know, would you be so kind as to define Papal Infallibility. Thank you.
Glad to know you have an advantage over the rest of us sinners.
I trust the Holy Spirit not the opinions of the cynics.
The clearest example (though not the only one) of the use of this power, referred to as speaking ex cathedra expressed since the solemn declaration of papal infallibility by Vatican I on July 18, 1870, took place in 1950 when Pope Pius XII defined the Assumption of Mary as being an article of faith for Roman Catholics.
My point is not the content of the infallible declaration, with which you undoubtedly disagree, but the rarity of occurrence.
That said, due to prophecies ascribed to St. Malachy (correctly or incorrectly), some Catholics also are on the alert for the election of a pope who promulgates false doctrine, and if such actually occurs many will bail from that particular "pope" (not from their faith) in short order.
Back to infallibility, the pope, when not speaking under the strict conditions that define infallibility, is often right, but not always:
The limitation on the pope's infallibility "on other matters" is frequently illustrated by Cardinal James Gibbons's recounting how the pope mistakenly called him Jibbons
I am not a Catholic but I have been listening to Cardinal Dolan’s appearances when they have made it to the news. I really enjoy him. He has the clarity of thought and ability to explain like few I’ve seen. And down to Earth common sense and sense of humor. I hope you are right. I don’t know much about the other papal candidates but I believe that Cardinal Dolan would be an excellent choice.