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2.8 PETABYTES!?!?! (Vatican Library being digitized)
WDTPRS ^ | March 7, 2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 03/09/2013 6:27:57 AM PST by NYer

At InfoDocket there is a story describing the project to digitize the Vatican Library.

Get this!

EMC Corporation has today announced that it is providing 2.8 petabytes of storage to help the Vatican Apostolic Library digitize its entire catalogue of historic manuscripts and incunabula (a book or pamphlet printed before 1501). One of the oldest libraries in the world, the Vatican Apostolic Library holds many of the rarest and most valuable documents in existence including the 42 line Latin Bible of Gutenberg, the first book printed with movable type and dating between 1451 and 1455.

Do you remember “Doc’s” reaction to how much electricity was needed to power the DeLorean? We are all used to hearing “giga-” these days. But this is “peta-”

Our hard drives are now in gigabytes and terabytes. I remember when having megabytes was a big deal.

The prefixes indicate multipliers. kilo-, mega-, giga-, tera-, peta- etc.

Prefix Symbol(s) Power of 10 Power of 2
yocto- y 10-24 *
zepto- z 10-21 *
atto- a 10-18 *
femto- f 10-15 *
pico- p 10-12 *
nano- n 10-9 *
micro- m 10-6 *
milli- m 10-3 *
centi- c 10-2 *
deci- d 10-1 *
(none) 100 20
deka- D 101 *
hecto- h 102 *
kilo- k or K ** 103 210
mega- M 106 220
giga- G 109 230
tera- T 1012 240
peta- P 1015 250
exa- E 1018 * 260
zetta- Z 1021 * 270
yotta- Y 1024 * 280
* Not generally used to express data speed
** k = 103 and K = 210 


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; History
KEYWORDS: data; digital; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; pages; petabyte; vatican

1 posted on 03/09/2013 6:27:57 AM PST by NYer
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To learn more about the Vatican Library visit Wikipedia
2 posted on 03/09/2013 6:28:50 AM PST by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

that’s a lot of peta-files


3 posted on 03/09/2013 6:39:00 AM PST by babble-on
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To: NYer
1) That note at the bottom " Not generally used to express data speed" should read "Not yet generally used to express data speed". We'll be talking about "Exabytes" and maybe even "zettabytes" in my lifetime, and I'm not young.

2) Digitizing these old documents is a revolutionary act for antiquities research; it allows pretty much anybody to peruse these old documents as much as they want without risk of damaging them.

3) This thread will provide yet another platform for the sewer-minded people to expose themselves.

4 posted on 03/09/2013 6:45:59 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer
I remember when having megabytes was a big deal.

Pfffft. I remember kilobytes being a big deal.

My father used to program computers with punch cards.

So there!

5 posted on 03/09/2013 7:15:44 AM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: babble-on

Does pillow-bytes come before or after peta-bytes?


6 posted on 03/09/2013 7:19:06 AM PST by twister881
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To: twister881
Only after heavy peta-bytes.

CC

7 posted on 03/09/2013 7:29:54 AM PST by Celtic Conservative
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To: NYer

That’s a $hitload of bytes!


8 posted on 03/09/2013 7:39:20 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: babble-on

You know how computers first had megabyte hard dives and then gigabyte hard drives and then terabyte hard drives? Next is petabytes. Do you know why they won’t make petabyte hard drives? Nobody wants a petafile on their computer.


9 posted on 03/09/2013 7:53:36 AM PST by Rad_J
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To: NYer

** the Vatican Apostolic Library holds many of the rarest and most valuable documents in existence including the 42 line Latin Bible of Gutenberg, the first book printed with movable type and dating between 1451 and 1455.**

Yes!


10 posted on 03/09/2013 7:56:30 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Time to fire up and practice with the Late Medieval latin translator, and I wonder if those Jewish guys have wrapped up the one for ladino ~ just all kinds of things there in that otherwise dead language!


11 posted on 03/09/2013 8:06:42 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: NYer

The article didn’t address how the information would be input.

There are already inconsistancies between the KJV and the NIV concerning translations of certain words that change the meaning in some scripture.

Wonder if info is mannually input how many will intentionally mis-translate for the purpose of disception.


12 posted on 03/09/2013 8:43:57 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mortrey

Ah, here we go. The first Catholic conspiracy nut.

text files aren’t that large, that much storage space can only be needed for hi-res scans.


13 posted on 03/09/2013 8:50:02 AM PST by Raymann
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To: MAexile
My father used to program computers with punch cards.

Punch cards were still around when I matriculated in the mid 1970s.

Now, if he had to enter the boot-strap loader via switches, then use paper tape to start to do real work, aka, load the "driver" for the card reader to load in the application before loading the data...

As for the Petabytes. I know it seems a lot, but an awful lot of it is imaging. What's a typical page of ASCII text? 2K? What's a typed page of scanned text? A page of scanned "artful" text? A page of illuminated "artful" type? Illuminated and hand written?

That's not to mention the aging and more than likely wear and tear imperfections of the pages.

After all, if you're going to that much trouble, you might as well go state of the art the first time to minimize additional handling of the originals.

I'd like to see if they have "Cuoco Secreto", translated of course.

14 posted on 03/09/2013 9:08:14 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Raymann
Ah, here we go. The first Catholic conspiracy nut. text files aren’t that large, that much storage space can only be needed for hi-res scans.

I assume you are correct. On the flip side, the Vatican has more stuff stored away, that will never see the light of day, than any other institution in the world(I might be exaggerating a bit, but one can never tell when all the info isn't out there).

The question will be as to how much of it will be available to those who are merely curious.

15 posted on 03/09/2013 9:14:53 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Raymann
The Vatican has an immense art collection ~ it'll all be scanned.

BTW, this isn't news ~ just the letting of a contract ~ finally!

16 posted on 03/09/2013 9:16:55 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: NYer

So could cave paintings be the first and original “hard drive?”

http://www.historyofinformation.com/expanded.php?id=3693


17 posted on 03/09/2013 9:25:46 AM PST by abb
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To: Rad_J
Nobody wants a petafile on their computer

That's a good one! (Neither do I want a PETA-file.)

18 posted on 03/09/2013 9:26:56 AM PST by glennaro
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To: NYer

I refuse to use the metric “kilo” bytes, “giga” bytes, and “peta” bytes. I always say my files are “teenie”, “manageable”, “big”, “huge”, “crap ton”, etc.


19 posted on 03/09/2013 9:36:50 AM PST by sagar
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To: Mortrey
Wonder if info is mannually input how many will intentionally mis-translate for the purpose of disception.

? My guess is they will scan these books.

20 posted on 03/09/2013 9:51:51 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Mortrey
Wonder if info is mannually

From previous threads, it was quite clear that they're making very high resolution scans of the documents. Scholars (amateur and professional) will be as interested in the details of the calligraphy and illumination of the documents as they will be in the actual text thereof.

21 posted on 03/09/2013 9:54:53 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MAexile
My father used to program computers with punch cards.

I started using a Card Programmed Calculator in about 1955. We not only used punched cards for programs, but we wired boards for trignometric functions.

22 posted on 03/09/2013 10:50:50 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Calvin Locke
"After all, if you're going to that much trouble, you might as well go state of the art the first time to minimize additional handling of the originals." My (I'm somewhat Protestant) one experience with the Vatican, when I visited it in June of 1998, was entirely positive and left me with great admiration for the Church, indeed, far more than I have for mainstream Protestantism. What's particularly notable is the massive, spare no resources, effort the Church makes to spread the faith. That particularly includes its very reasonably priced publications that are often made to National Geographic print and photo quality standards. The one that particularly stands out is a booklet about the Sistine Chapel that includes a really spectacular center fold high gloss color photo of its ceiling. If they do their library the same way, the results will be fantastic. I really hope they do a first rate picture of each original and accompany that picture with equally good translations in each of the world's major languages.
23 posted on 03/09/2013 11:43:16 AM PST by libstripper
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To: NYer; Ernest_at_the_Beach

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Thanks NYer. Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


24 posted on 03/09/2013 12:46:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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