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Are Cardinals Electing The Last Pope? If You Believe Nostradamus...
NBCNews ^ | March 10, 2013 | Carol Grisanti

Posted on 03/10/2013 3:17:08 PM PDT by Steelfish

Are Cardinals Electing The Last Pope? If You Believe Nostradamus...

By Carol Grisanti, Producer, NBC News ROME— (snip)

According to an ancient prediction, this next pope will be the last. That theory dates back more than 900 years to when Malachy O’Morgair, the 12th century Archbishop of Ireland, had a vision.

Legend has it that St. Malachy, as he is now known, had a strange dream while on a visit to Rome. He “saw” all the names of the future popes – complete with identifying characteristics – who would rule the church until the end of time.

In his book, “Life of St. Malachy,” St. Bernard of Clairvaux wrote that Malachy was respected as a clairvoyant who predicted the exact day and hour of his own death. At least one 20th century pope, Pius X, was convinced Malachy’s vision was divine, according to Rafael Merry del Val, his biographer.

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Pope Benedict was apparently described as “glory of the olives” and doomsayers point to his choice of the name Benedict, since the founder of the Benedictine Order was also known as Olivetans.

And in Malachy’s vision, the last pope – who will soon be elected – is described this way: “in extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman…”

While none of the Italian Cardinals are called Peter, one favorite to become Pope is Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana.

Lighting strikes the basilica of St.Peter's dome in Vatican City during a storm on Feb.11, 2013, the same day Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation.

Nostradamus: a comet and a lightening bolt If that was not enough to send shivers down a few spines, Nostradamus, the 16th century French astrologer and seer, predicted much the same as Malachy.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: cardinals; lastpope; malachy; nostradamus; pope; stmalachy
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1 posted on 03/10/2013 3:17:08 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

And let the selling of the conspiracy books begin!


2 posted on 03/10/2013 3:22:03 PM PDT by HChampagne
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To: Steelfish
If this new Pope name is “Peter the Roman” that might be interesting.
3 posted on 03/10/2013 3:22:09 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: Steelfish
And for those well-versed in the language of brimstone and fire, the signs could not have been more transparent when just hours after Benedict announced he would abdicate, a bolt of lightning struck St. Peter’s Basilica, the very heart of Christianity

The heart of Christianity is the Lord Jesus Christ Himself and His blood and body sacrifice for our sins--not St.Peter's Basilica.

4 posted on 03/10/2013 3:23:24 PM PDT by patriotsblood
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To: patriotsblood

Yes, in The Holy Sacrifice of The Mass and in the divine instruction given to Peter, the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven, his apostles and their successors to teach one faith, one truth, and as part of one church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.


5 posted on 03/10/2013 3:27:49 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Are Cardinals Electing The Last Pope? If You Believe Nostradamus...
9 things you need to know about the prophecy of St. Malachy
St. Malachy's prophecy, misread?
Saint Malachy, Prophecies about 112 popes until the end of the world, the last five Popes
A POPE DESCRIBED AS 'FROM THE SUN' WAS BORN DURING ECLIPSE AND LEAVES WITH ONE
RATZINGER APPEARS TO FULFILL MALACHY PROPHECY [De Gloria Olivae]
Malachy's Prophecies - The Last 10 Popes
Prophecy of St Malachy (with list of Popes)
6 posted on 03/10/2013 3:28:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Steelfish
On examination, the supposed prophetic visions of St. Malachy are hard to credit. There is no contemporary account or evidence for them, and the only source is the claims of a commercial work published many years after the visions are said to have taken place. Moreover, at best only strained connections can be made between the visions and the Popes who came after the publication. In short, facts and reason fairly lead to the conclusion that the supposed visions were an invention designed to capitalize on the public’s often uncritical hunger for that sort of thing.
7 posted on 03/10/2013 3:29:21 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

And Nostradamus?


8 posted on 03/10/2013 3:30:02 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
9 things you need to know about the prophecy of St. Malachy

Actually, 1 is sufficient ... 'It is not an approved apparition, and the evidence is consistent with it being a forgery composed around 1590.'

9 posted on 03/10/2013 3:32:40 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Steelfish

“According to an ancient prediction, this next pope will be the last.”

That’s what they said about the last Pope. But eventually they’ll get it right if they keep hedging their bets.


10 posted on 03/10/2013 3:38:11 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: ForAmerica

If Peter from Africa is elected I’m going to daily mass, to wait for my end times.


11 posted on 03/10/2013 3:38:27 PM PDT by mgist
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To: Steelfish

I think Peter the Roman simply is a pope that will be strong on doctrine.


12 posted on 03/10/2013 3:39:08 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Steelfish

Saint Mariachi?


13 posted on 03/10/2013 3:40:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: mgist

The elected person always takes another name. He would not take the name Peter. BTW, I don’t believe he will be selected — too socialistic.


14 posted on 03/10/2013 3:44:38 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: mgist

Why not go to Daily Mass anyway?


15 posted on 03/10/2013 3:45:22 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I do not believe so either that Cardinal Peter Turksman will be elected, not only because of what you had said, but also his name wast touted a lot by the news media over the last few weeks. That is not good.

My best guess is these 3 but again this is my best guess: Tagle, Rajaith, or Burke.

Overall let the Holy Spirit do HIS WORK.


16 posted on 03/10/2013 3:50:02 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ForAmerica
If he's named 'Peter the Last', then it get really interesting!
17 posted on 03/10/2013 3:50:06 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Biggirl
I tend to agree with you.

As my priest has said quite a bit lately.

Those Cardinals who go into the conclave expecting to come out wearing the white robes, will come out as Cardinal.

Cardinal Turksman has been too outspoken on his desires to higher office.

18 posted on 03/10/2013 3:55:57 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: patriotsblood

St. Peter’s church is the “heart of Christianity” to over 1 billion folks, who all BELIEVE in Jesus. Is is built over the tomb of Jesus’ Apostle, Peter. Can you say that of any other church?


19 posted on 03/10/2013 3:58:20 PM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: Steelfish
Nostradamus is a big question mark. He described himself as using a common method of divination, and was learned in the medical and occult traditions of the time. Yet he deliberately obscured his published predictions, which makes them hard to accept as genuinely prophetic even when they can be taken as having come true in some sense.

In general, I see the paranormal as real in many respects even though, to keep from being taken in by fraud and self deluded invention, I am deeply skeptical of specific claims.

20 posted on 03/10/2013 4:01:05 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Steelfish

I think they should seal the decision in an envelope and let Michelle Obama read it for everyone to hear. LOL


21 posted on 03/10/2013 4:02:08 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: mgist

I read on him. He strikes me as a socialist. I think he was running some kind of world blah blah blah something organization that’s not worth remembering or knowing about in the first place. A speech I read from him had all the marks of a pinko.


22 posted on 03/10/2013 4:10:15 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Steelfish

I think it is more likely that America has elected its last president.


23 posted on 03/10/2013 4:17:32 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: Steelfish

What has Notredamus to do with it? If the cardinals are about to elect the last pope, so be it — there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Hasn’t Christianity prayed for the Lord’s return in glory from the very beginning when the Roman persecutions started? There must have been many Christians in nazi deathcamps who prayed for the Lord’s return then and there.

How often have we read FReepers expressing their desire for the “final solution” although it was meant entirely different from the way the nazis wanted it to be?


24 posted on 03/10/2013 4:24:48 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

> I think it is more likely that America has elected its last president.

Those horns must be on the verge of poppin’ out...


25 posted on 03/10/2013 4:31:54 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Steelfish

“Lighting strikes the basilica of St.Peter’s dome in Vatican City during a storm on Feb.11, 2013, the same day Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation.”

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Big deal — that’s why we place lightning rods on tall buildings. The basilica has probably been struck many times before and will be many times more.

It’s the weather and global warming. (heh,heh)


26 posted on 03/10/2013 4:34:10 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Salvation

ping for keepers


27 posted on 03/10/2013 4:37:35 PM PDT by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: CommieCutter

Michelle Obama announcing “Habemus Papam”?

ROTFLOL!


28 posted on 03/10/2013 4:53:15 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: ForAmerica
If this new Pope name is “Peter the Roman” that might be interesting.

Or if he's from Romania...

29 posted on 03/10/2013 4:56:44 PM PDT by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: NotTallTex

Can you say that of any other church?

God’s temple is within every believer, a living sanctuary for the Holy Spirit.


30 posted on 03/10/2013 4:58:33 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: mgist
If Peter from Africa is elected I’m going to daily mass, to wait for my end times.
Heck, why wait for the end times to attend daily mass? Start tomorrow! :)
31 posted on 03/10/2013 5:15:09 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Salvation

In the movie and I assume the novel “Shoes of the Fisherman,” Cyril actually does take the name Cyril.

But it would take quite a bit of hubris, or realization that these are the end times, for a Pope Peter II.

As I recall, John Paul I actually called himself “Johanne Paulo Primo” (I remember the Primo part - I assume the rest was in the ablative)....but the other one-of-a-kind popes — have no number.

I wonder, is the “1st” assigned proleptically except in the case of JPI?

There’s probably no way to know — the last one-of-a-kind was Pope Lando (A.D. 913-914); the last 1st was Marinus I (882-884), with Marinus II serving 942-946?


32 posted on 03/10/2013 5:15:25 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: CommieCutter
I think they should seal the decision in an envelope and let Michelle Obama read it for everyone to hear. LOL
Oh, now that's funny... send it to SNL; maybe they'll use it...
33 posted on 03/10/2013 5:17:41 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Steelfish

If the new pope elected is a “reformer” and changes Church teachings on the basics of abortion and homosexuality, he could be the last pope as we know it because a great schism
could occur.


34 posted on 03/10/2013 5:20:37 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: HChampagne; Steelfish
And let the selling of the conspiracy books begin!

Absolutely! If someone can somehow whip up enough interest in bogus "prophecies" maybe everyone will forget that the world ended (at least three time, no less) last year.

That would revive the bestselling "Christ Surrenders to Satan" doctrine to once again be a huge cash cow.

Books, videos, conferences, and speaking fees, yes indeed, let charlatans get busy shearing the gullible sheep yet again. I bet the Moonies have already put up the money so a well known "prophecy expert" can start printing,

"The Great Bait Surrender & Evacuation : How millions from each of the six genders be snatched up to rupture at high altitude !!"

With new bestsellers to focus on, the fluffy little, frolic prone, horny, bleaters, will keep on ignoring the fact that their First Amendment right to Freedom of Religion is being replaced with a Federally subsidized right to Freedom of Fornication.

35 posted on 03/10/2013 5:31:59 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: HChampagne

I heard it might go to Cardinal Sicola.

Then we could have Pope Sicola.


36 posted on 03/10/2013 5:37:20 PM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Steelfish

The end of the world is coming. And we are ALL going to die.

I don’t know the time or day. But eventually our sun will go out with one hell of a bang and fry everyone on the planet.

A lot could happen between now and then.

I don’t think I will worry too much about it all.


37 posted on 03/10/2013 5:44:18 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: NotTallTex

There is nothing in the Bible, nor historical records, as far as I know that the apostle Peter was ever in Rome much less buried there.


38 posted on 03/10/2013 6:13:15 PM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: ForAmerica
They might try to disguise it...
39 posted on 03/10/2013 6:19:27 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: CommieCutter
MoBama calls out a different name and even a different category:

And, the Whore of Babylon is...


40 posted on 03/10/2013 7:16:04 PM PDT by Slyfox (Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness -G Wash.)
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To: mlizzy

I was going to daily mass for a while, and I was on fire with the Holy Spirit. It is a calling, a Grace, an invitation from Him. My fire lasted as long as I managed to maintain my heart with love (not long enough) The world gets the best of me. I am waiting obediently during this dry spell. Daily mass is amazing!


41 posted on 03/10/2013 7:28:23 PM PDT by mgist
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To: murron

The Pope will never change church teachings to accept homosexuality. Jesus made that promise to Peter.


42 posted on 03/10/2013 7:31:04 PM PDT by mgist
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To: Jude in WV

Peter died in Rome. Just because it might not be in the Bible doesn’t mean it wasn’t true.

Read the Early Church Fathers — they knew the apostles and they knew the facts.


43 posted on 03/10/2013 7:38:12 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NotTallTex

With all due respect.....none of that matters. All that matters is a personal relationship with God through His Son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

All else are trappings of man; utterly worthless. Only God and His Son matter.


44 posted on 03/10/2013 8:02:25 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Jude in WV
There is nothing in the Bible, nor historical records, as far as I know that the apostle Peter was ever in Rome much less buried there.

On the contrary, all of the historical evidence, beginning with Ignatius of Antioch, who died a martyr in AD 110 and knew Peter & Paul personally, points to Peter going to Rome and being martyred there under Nero. The tomb under the high altar of St. Peter's shows evidence of being a Christian pilgrimage site in ancient times, and bears the inscription -- in Greek, not Latin -- Petros eni, "Peter is here".

45 posted on 03/10/2013 8:27:11 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: RightOnline
All else are trappings of man; utterly worthless. Only God and His Son matter.

"God and his Son"? Interesting formulation. Regardless, Jesus Christ founded a church, gave his apostles authority to teach in that church until the end of time, and promised that the gates of hell would not prevail again it. That's not a "trapping of man'" but a promise from God. It's in your Bible.

46 posted on 03/10/2013 8:33:00 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Biggirl

If it is Cardinal Tagle of Manila, there will be a lot of like-named people from Spain to US to South America and to the Philipines.

Sorry, but the Irish Tagle’s aren’t part of the family.


47 posted on 03/10/2013 8:49:56 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Steelfish

Interesting.


48 posted on 03/10/2013 8:53:30 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I think it is more likely that America has elected its last president.

the odds are definitely in your favor...

49 posted on 03/10/2013 9:17:06 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Steelfish
The Holy Sacrifice of The Mass

There was ONE sacrifice - and that is JESUS.

divine instruction given to Peter,

What was given to Peter was a revelation by God who Jesus is. And on that rock, who Jesus is, Jesus built His church which is based on HIS WORDS/Truth.

to teach one faith

You don't teach faith, it's God-given. Supernatural faith is of God. You use it to understand/believe Jesus The Word by that faith. Man made teachings aren't inspired by the Holy Spirit as they are worldly so students/followers of Rome don't use/need supernatural faith thus they don't learn The Truth, The Way, The Life.

50 posted on 03/10/2013 9:21:40 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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