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Why is Cardinal Mahony Voting in the Conclave?
Canon Law Made Easy ^ | March 11, 2013 | Cathy Caridi, J.C.L.

Posted on 03/11/2013 7:00:00 AM PDT by Weiss White

Q: Could you please comment on the assertions by Cardinal Mahony [of Los Angeles, California] that he is required to participate in the upcoming conclave? Many Catholics are grouping to protest his participation. –Douglas

A: Douglas is referring to the highly publicized case of the Archbishop Emeritus of Los Angeles, Roger Cardinal Mahony, who is currently in Rome to participate in the conclave, now scheduled to begin on March 12. Unlike the other cardinal-electors, Cardinal Mahony’s presence here has unleashed a storm of criticism from Catholics around the world, who have been insisting that he should recuse himself from voting for the next Pope.

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1 posted on 03/11/2013 7:00:00 AM PDT by Weiss White
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To: Weiss White

I’ve NEVER respected Roger Mahony. I think he’s one of those false priests that neatly encapsulates almost everything that’s wrong with the Catholic Church, and which gives it a bad name.


2 posted on 03/11/2013 7:04:22 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: Kriggerel

He’s awful, but unfortunately, there’s not really a way, this late in the game, of preventing him from voting in the Conclave - without giving the liberals (whose side he’s on, of course) the opportunity to claim that the conclave is illegitimate and invalid.

If it’s any consolation, one of the reporters from Rome was in a restaurant where groups of other cardinals were dining and saw Mahony dining...alone. I don’t think he’s got much influence left.


3 posted on 03/11/2013 7:09:47 AM PDT by livius
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To: Weiss White

Points to somewhat of a hypocracy in this conclave business, doesn’t it?


4 posted on 03/11/2013 7:15:04 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Nobody said you had to be morally perfect to vote in the conclave. I think he should have removed himself, as O’Brien did, but there really wasn’t anyway of removing him before that without giving the liberal forces the chance to claim that the vote was invalid (because of his absence).

Mahony is still a big hero to the liberals. The only thing they don’t like is that he got caught.


5 posted on 03/11/2013 7:20:59 AM PDT by livius
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To: Weiss White

Because he can.


6 posted on 03/11/2013 7:36:09 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Weiss White

He’s just got one vote. And I doubt whether he has much influence on anyone else. His successor in LA can ban him from priestly activities in the diocese, but it would take something more to ban him from the conclave.


7 posted on 03/11/2013 7:59:06 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: onedoug

“This conclave business” is nothing less than the work of the holy spirit. Organizations run by men will be imperfect ( the hypocrisy of which you speak) because All men are sinners, including cardinals.

What is perfect is the Holy Spirit and the implementation of the will of God. The next Pope is Christ’s chosen apostle... just like Peter ( whom if we remember denied Christ 3 times.)


8 posted on 03/11/2013 8:09:37 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Weiss White

Guys like Mahony are why so many “Catholics” are pro-abortion,
pro-”gay”, pro-illegals and vote straight lib dim socialist slates.


9 posted on 03/11/2013 8:26:11 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Weiss White

So, what’s wrong with Mahoney? Why do the catholics get upset over everything?


11 posted on 03/11/2013 8:41:12 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: longfellowsmuse
“This conclave business” is nothing less than the work of the holy spirit. Organizations run by men will be imperfect ( the hypocrisy of which you speak) because All men are sinners, including cardinals.

What is perfect is the Holy Spirit and the implementation of the will of God. The next Pope is Christ’s chosen apostle... just like Peter ( whom if we remember denied Christ 3 times.)

Read a piece not long ago where your most recent pope claimed the the Holy Spirit had little, if any thing to do with picking popes...I would tend to agree with him...

12 posted on 03/11/2013 8:45:53 AM PDT by Iscool (uee)
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To: Cicero

I hope Mahony’s vote isn’t the one who gives someone exactly the two-thirds majority to win. Often the winning candidate has much more than 2/3 on the final ballot—let’s hope it’s the case this time so we don’t have to wonder if one discredited cardinal may have made the difference.


13 posted on 03/11/2013 8:53:12 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Iscool

could you reference the article for me so I could read it please...


14 posted on 03/11/2013 8:59:02 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Weiss White

Judas was one of the Twelve.


15 posted on 03/11/2013 9:08:14 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Iscool; longfellowsmuse

One of his early writings wasn’t it?


16 posted on 03/11/2013 9:10:16 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: BipolarBob

which one?


17 posted on 03/11/2013 9:13:49 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Oratam

Yes he was, and it was God’s will.


18 posted on 03/11/2013 9:15:18 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Weiss White

Simple answer: He has no choice; he must participate.


19 posted on 03/11/2013 9:17:11 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Kriggerel

I lived in California many years ago and was a church-going Catholic.

Mahoney would frequently appear at news conferences and urge people to vote for democrats. He was at the forefront of many liberal causes, including gun-grabbing laws in California.

He flew around L.A. in a private helicopter while advocating for higher taxes and amnesty for illegals.

In addition, he helped cover up for abusive priests.

I have no use for him.


20 posted on 03/11/2013 9:35:25 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: Weiss White

He is a douchebag who also led illegal invaders in several marches demanding amnesty. He really belongs in a Gitmo cell.


21 posted on 03/11/2013 9:51:21 AM PDT by montag813
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To: longfellowsmuse
...because All men are sinners, including cardinals.

Amen.

But I still believe Mahoney should be in prison. Not flying around the world to do anything, least of all using his influence to further bring the Church to his own level of corruption and degradation.

22 posted on 03/11/2013 11:14:30 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Weiss White

Hmmm. That explains alot.


23 posted on 03/11/2013 2:40:33 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: livius

There was and still is a way. Mahoney should recuse himself as not worthy of the honor.


24 posted on 03/11/2013 2:44:34 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

Oh, I agree - Danneels (who was actually even worse) should also recuse himself. Neither Mahony nor Danneels has any honor; at least O’Brien acknowledged his guilt and plans to spend the rest of his life in prayer and penance.

But it’s too late now. They’re all locked into the Doma Santa Marta, and tomorrow the voting begins.


25 posted on 03/11/2013 3:07:24 PM PDT by livius
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To: Weiss White

Anyone see Megan Kelly’s coverage this AM on the Conclave?

If memory serves she is a Catholic but I thought her coverage was really first rate.

I was delightfully surprised how little I was offended, iow!


26 posted on 03/11/2013 3:48:51 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Iscool
Read a piece not long ago where your most recent pope claimed the the Holy Spirit had little, if any thing to do with picking popes...I would tend to agree with him...

Well, I would definitely say that there is good reason to believe that very often the choice of the pope has not come down to the will of the Holy Spirit. Just look at a list of the popes throughout history and you will see that many were terrible, terrible people. Some even bought the office, and did unspeakable things once reigning. I would like to believe that the Spirit offers his guidance, but like most things I doubt that God coerces us. If the cardinal electors are open to the voice of the Spirit then we may get the pope we need. But, if they are not, then we will just get the one they want. We can count on the Spirit to protect the Church, even from bad popes though, and that is very comforting. My two cents anyway.

27 posted on 03/11/2013 4:35:30 PM PDT by cothrige
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To: onedoug

That he has not been bagged is owing to his liberal Democrat friends. He has been a useful tool for them.


28 posted on 03/11/2013 7:53:04 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: cothrige

Well said. The Holy Spirit is always with us all, but do we do his will? Too seldom.


29 posted on 03/11/2013 7:54:51 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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