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1 posted on 03/14/2013 8:55:25 AM PDT by NYer
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Who the heck is Rorate Caeli?

2 posted on 03/14/2013 8:58:14 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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The trads have spoken! Pope Francis is not traditional ... enough. They are not satisfied with the work of the Holy Spirit in this conclave. I would be intrigued to know just who fits their papal mold.

Rorate-Caeli blogspot.

3 posted on 03/14/2013 8:58:51 AM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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All the good ones are dead. /joke

6 posted on 03/14/2013 9:22:25 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Updated [] [])
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The Pope of the World
8 posted on 03/14/2013 9:25:01 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Updated [] [])
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Unfortunately RorateCaeli came up looking like a bunch of kooks and cranks yesterday. They are usually very good but they failed miserably in the prudence, charity and sound judgment departments yesterday. The orthodox Catholic world is going to be very pleasantly surprised by this Pope, even if he causes occasional consternation among the rad trads.

Even CFN's John Vennari is walking back his position from yesterday a bit (see area I bolded):

More on Pope Francis
14/03/13 12:07
2013 CFN Conclave Blog

By John Vennari

Today, March 14, is the first day under the reign of the new Pope. It is also a day when we continue to learn more about him.

Unlike Cardinal Ratzinger who was well known prior to his papal election, and who had a long paper-trail of speeches, documents, books and public activities, most people in the English-speaking world are not as familiar with Cardinal Bergoglio, now Pope Francis I.

Earlier I posted materials that spotlighted some of his disturbing practices in Argentina: participating in pan-Christian Pentecostal assemblies; celebrating Hanukkah with Jews; riotous stadium Masses more like a pop-rally circus than anything sacred.

Other aspects now surface that show another side of the man.

He appears to be devoted to Our Lady of Fatima, and according to a 30 Days interview, he prays 15 decades of the Rosary daily. I have it on good authority (not a rumor, but a letter he once sent to an acquaintance), that he personally practices the Five First Saturdays devotion.

This morning Pope Francis, quietly went to the Basilica of Santa Maria Maggiore, the oldest church in the world dedicated to the Madonna, where he prayed before a famous icon of the Madonna called the Salus Populi Romani, or Protectress of the Roman People. He also visited the tomb of Pope St. Pius V.

In an earlier report I had said he would celebrate Mass at Saint Mary’s this morning. It appears I was operating on inaccurate information. He did not celebrate Mass, but only went to pray.

In the post-conciliar world, where the definition and practice of Catholicism encompasses a bizarre elasticity – a combination of both traditional practices and foreign elements always condemned by the Church – modern prelates tend to be mixed bags.

As time goes on, we will learn exactly what combination of elements make the man who is now Pope Francis.

9 posted on 03/14/2013 9:43:03 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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One should be careful about this knee-jerk reactionary rubbish. It does the Church and the salvation of souls no good, no good at all.


I very much agree with Fr. Byers. It is so sad to see such self-righteousness. We must pray for them for a true spirit of repentance.

16 posted on 03/14/2013 10:53:01 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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27 posted on 03/14/2013 6:26:51 PM PDT by narses
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The “rad trads” are a tiny minority compared to the destructive force of the “progressives” or “CINO’s” (as sometimes called here).

While I agree that bashing the pope on his first day is over-reacting, keep in mind the position of the trads in the Church - when people are backed into a corner, they tend to get defensive.

These people have stayed true to the Church their whole lives thru constant turmoil and outright contradictions from their priests and bishops. Or if younger they have come to traditionalism thru conversion or discovery.

These are often the people living most faithfully according to Church teaching, are active in pro-life, and are rearing several children (often on one salary) that are the only hope for the Church’s future.

Yet they are often treated like freaks and weirdos, including by priests, even for something as simple as showing up at a Novos Ordo wearing a simple veil. I can see why after Benedict they are a bit wary of a Pope who won’t wear the red shoes! It’s a rash judgment by some, but hey, it’s understandable.

When Brogoglio rides the bus, does he notice the trads are still relegated to the back seat? If he sincerely cares about the “poor and marginalized” consider the spiritual poverty of those deprived of the Mass they love and wish to share with their children.

47 posted on 03/16/2013 9:02:11 PM PDT by baa39 (amdg)
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UPDATE: Rorate Caeli’s diatribe against Pope Francis [Catholic Caucus]
Pope Francis: A Disappointment for Catholics Who Don't Like Being Catholic
Updates on Pope Francis’ first day as Pope – Great moments! (truly humble man)
New Pope Slips Out Of Vatican For morning Prayer Visit

Our First American Pope
Pope Francis I clear on denying Communion to those who facilitate in abortion
Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Profession: Servant of the Servants of God
EDITORIAL:Pope Francis I bridges conservative and progressive currents
New Pope Francis called homosexual ‘marriage’ a ‘machination of the Father of Lies’
Pope Francis Is First Catholic Pontiff From The Americas; He Is Known As A Humble Intellectual
New Pope lived simple life in Argentina
"Lowly, And Yet Chosen," Enter Pope Francis (some phenomenal firsts with this election)
10 Facts about Pope Francis
Vatican Web Site Updated
Full Text of Pope Francis’ Opening Address to Catholic Faithful
9 things you should know about Pope Francis
Pope Francis I promises to be strong pro-life world leader
New Pope celebrated Hanukkah as well as Christmas
New Pope- enemy of Catholic tradition
As Cardinal, Pope Francis condemned abortion even in rape cases
Profile: New pope, Jesuit Bergoglio, was runner-up in 2005 conclave
Jorge Mario Bergoglio elected pope, takes Francis as name
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio: a Profile
HABEMUS PAPAM!!! (Live Thread)

49 posted on 03/18/2013 4:01:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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