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Pope Francis Warns Church Could Become 'Compassionate NGO'
BBC ^ | 3/13/13

Posted on 03/14/2013 1:31:23 PM PDT by marshmallow

Pope Francis has warned the Catholic Church would become "a compassionate NGO" without spiritual renewal.

In a Sistine Chapel Mass with cardinals on his first day as Church leader, the pontiff said: "If we do not confess to Christ, what would we be?

"We would end up a compassionate NGO. What would happen would be like when children make sand castles and then it all falls down."

Francis is the first Latin American - and the first Jesuit - Pope.

The BBC's David Willey, in Rome, says the 76-year-old has already been swift to stamp his style on the papacy.

Pope Francis is regarded as a doctrinal conservative, but he is also seen as a potential force for reform of the Vatican bureaucracy, analysts say.

Shunned special car

On Wednesday night, Pope Francis endeared himself to the crowds in St Peter's Square - and underlined his reputation for humility - when he asked them to bless him before blessing them in return from the balcony of the basilica.

The Vatican's account of his first hours in the top job on Thursday also emphasised Pope Francis's humility, describing how he shunned a special car and security detail provided to take him to the Vatican, travelling instead on a bus with the other cardinals.

Following his first outing as pope to the Rome basilica on Thursday, Francis went back to the clergy house in a city centre side street where he had been staying ahead of the conclave that elected him on Wednesday.

"He packed his bags and then he went to pay the bill for his room so as to set a good example," said Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi.

He also broke tradition by remaining standing to receive cardinals' acts of homage after his election, instead of sitting in the papal......

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: ngo; popefrancis

1 posted on 03/14/2013 1:31:23 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

NGO?


2 posted on 03/14/2013 1:33:19 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: marshmallow

At the risk of being accused of spam, I intend to post the entire text of his (brief) homily ... that we may compare it to the reporting offered by various media outlets.

Here it is:

In these three readings I see that there is something in common: it is movement. In the first reading, movement is the journey [itself]; in the second reading, movement is in the up-building of the Church. In the third, in the Gospel, the movement is in [the act of] profession: walking, building, professing.

Walking: the House of Jacob. “O house of Jacob, Come, let us walk in the light of the Lord.” This is the first thing God said to Abraham: “Walk in my presence and be blameless.” Walking: our life is a journey and when we stop, there is something wrong. Walking always, in the presence of the Lord, in the light of the Lord, seeking to live with that blamelessness, which God asks of Abraham, in his promise.

Building: to build the Church. There is talk of stones: stones have consistency, but [the stones spoken of are] living stones, stones anointed by the Holy Spirit. Build up the Church, the Bride of Christ, the cornerstone of which is the same Lord. With [every] movement in our lives, let us build!

Third, professing: we can walk as much we want, we can build many things, but if we do not confess Jesus Christ, nothing will avail. We will become a pitiful NGO, but not the Church, the Bride of Christ. When one does not walk, one stalls. When one does not built on solid rocks, what happens? What happens is what happens to children on the beach when they make sandcastles: everything collapses, it is without consistency. When one does not profess Jesus Christ - I recall the phrase of Leon Bloy – “Whoever does not pray to God, prays to the devil.” When one does not profess Jesus Christ, one professes the worldliness of the devil.

Walking, building-constructing, professing: the thing, however, is not so easy, because in walking, in building, in professing, there are sometimes shake-ups - there are movements that are not part of the path: there are movements that pull us back.

This Gospel continues with a special situation. The same Peter who confessed Jesus Christ, says, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God. I will follow you, but let us not speak of the Cross. This has nothing to do with it.” He says, “I’ll follow you on other ways, that do not include the Cross.” When we walk without the Cross, when we build without the Cross, and when we profess Christ without the Cross, we are not disciples of the Lord. We are worldly, we are bishops, priests, cardinals, Popes, but not disciples of the Lord.

I would like that all of us, after these days of grace, might have the courage - the courage - to walk in the presence of the Lord, with the Cross of the Lord: to build the Church on the Blood of the Lord, which is shed on the Cross, and to profess the one glory, Christ Crucified. In this way, the Church will go forward.

My hope for all of us is that the Holy Spirit, that the prayer of Our Lady, our Mother, might grant us this grace: to walk, to build, to profess Jesus Christ Crucified. So be it.


3 posted on 03/14/2013 1:34:24 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Fawn

Non Governmental Organization


4 posted on 03/14/2013 1:35:38 PM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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To: Fawn

Non-Governmental Organization. He was basically saying, with morals, with our Catholic teachings, the Catholic Church is nothing more than an advocacy.


5 posted on 03/14/2013 1:36:05 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Fawn
NGO?

Non-Governmental Organization. An example would be a body that is a member of the United Nations, but not a country. IIRC, they have non-voting status.

6 posted on 03/14/2013 1:36:40 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: marshmallow

No offense, but is anybody else concerned about him being a Jesuit?

Aren’t the Jesuits the “secret agents” of the church.

Reminds me of a former KGB officer getting control of the newly democratic Russia. Again, no offense, just curious.


7 posted on 03/14/2013 1:42:24 PM PDT by Bizhvywt
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To: Bizhvywt
Aren’t the Jesuits the “secret agents” of the church.

Yeah ... he's probably an albino monk assassin in disguise.

< snort >

8 posted on 03/14/2013 1:43:31 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Bizhvywt

Do you also believe that the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” is real as well?


9 posted on 03/14/2013 1:44:40 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: marshmallow

Not a Catholic; but really like what he said there.


10 posted on 03/14/2013 1:46:44 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (ok)
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To: Bizhvywt

Seriously, Dude?
Man, I hate how the media has warped perception of the Church..


11 posted on 03/14/2013 1:48:55 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: ArrogantBustard
In your transcript it says pitiful NGO, but in the press version it said compassionate NGO. The Devil and his press corps are going to have a lot of trouble with this Pope!
12 posted on 03/14/2013 1:49:12 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Fawn

I think he means the kind of non-governmental organization that is a world-wide charity, like the Red Cross, or maybe the Rotary Club or March of Dimes or OxFam.

He’s saying that without a focus on Christ, the Church would just be some big charity organization.


13 posted on 03/14/2013 1:49:58 PM PDT by married21
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To: ArrogantBustard

Thanks for the homily - good, and important stuff.


14 posted on 03/14/2013 1:51:33 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

-— Not a Catholic; but really like what he said there. -—

Yes. Very wise. A good sign.


15 posted on 03/14/2013 1:52:15 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: HereInTheHeartland
-- Not a Catholic; but really like what he said there. --

Not a Catholic either, but Christianity is a Christ-centered point of view. Luther and Calvin protested when the Catholic leadership lost that focus.

The church is about life everlasting. The government is all about temporary control.

16 posted on 03/14/2013 1:53:00 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: SubMareener

Isn’t it slick how the devil lies?


17 posted on 03/14/2013 1:53:16 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: SubMareener
I am convinced that the dishonesty of Big Media knows no bounds.

They are of their father the devil, who is a liar and the father of lies.

18 posted on 03/14/2013 1:55:32 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Bizhvywt

The Jesuits aren’t secret guys. They teach at universities and are out there in public. They also have a wide spectrum of points of view. If you wanted them to get organized like the KGB, it would be like herding very smart and stubborn cats.


19 posted on 03/14/2013 1:57:27 PM PDT by married21
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To: ArrogantBustard

Thanks for posting this.

When I read this I feel like I get exactly what he is saying and whom he is addressing: the bread alone faction.

There are those in the Church and other Christians who teach that all that matters is social work, feeding and clothing, etc. This includes the marxist liberation theology branch. They say such things as “we need to go beyond Jesus.”

To these types, the gospel is superfluous at best, not necessary, even counter productive.

I hear Pope Francis addressing them in this statement.


20 posted on 03/14/2013 2:42:12 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Bizhvywt; ArrogantBustard; dfwgator; married21
Well, OK

Traditionally the Jesuits were not like "Secret Agents," they were more like "Special Forces": they had (have) a special vow of loyalty to the Pope and would go anywhere, at a moment's notice, under any kind of dangerous conditions, to advance the mission which Christ gave to the Church.

Think of the Robert DieNiro and Jeremy Irons movie "The Mission." Those were Jesuits.

Following the formula "The corruption of the best, is the worst," some of the best and worst priests you'll find, are Jesuits.

They have history of high academic achievement and fast-track promotion of able leadership. I had an old pal who was a poor kid back East who applied to a Jesuit Prep School that had 1,500 applicants for 30 openings. He got in because he was super-bright and they gave him a full scholarship because he was super-poor. But he was constantly rubbing elbows with the sons of diplomats and the elites of 3 continents. He joined the Seminary and was ordained. Ended up requesting laicization after 30+ years as a priest, because he was scandalized by worldly Jesuits in high places.

I mention that story because it was typical of a certain generation.

The best of them are simply magnificent. They've got a whole regiment of heroic canonized saints, missionary-martyrs, scientists, men of devotion to God, brilliance and backbone.

The worst are intellectually overstuffed, known for their rebelliousness (the reverse of their special oath of loyalty), way, way over to the Left, proud as pit-hags, and --- 'nuff said.

♥Pope Francis is the good kind.♥

21 posted on 03/14/2013 2:45:24 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (You can observe a lot just by watchin'. -- Yogi Berra)
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To: marshmallow
Pope Francis is regarded as a doctrinal conservative, but he is also seen as a potential force for reform of the Vatican bureaucracy, analysts say.

Sounds perfect!!

22 posted on 03/14/2013 4:24:37 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The worst are intellectually overstuffed, known for their rebelliousness (the reverse of their special oath of loyalty), way, way over to the Left, proud as pit-hags, and --- 'nuff said.

LOL! Oh my did you ever hit the nail on the head!

23 posted on 03/14/2013 4:30:52 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Bizhvywt
"No offense, but is anybody else concerned about him being a Jesuit?"

Only to the extent that it will encourage liars to continue to spew their lies about Catholics in general and Jesuits in particular. Lies that gullible saps swallow hook, line, and sinker, rather than bothering to find out the Truth and see that the true agenda of the anti-Catholic crowd is almost without fail just a veiled attempt to aid the expansion of the secular humanist anti-Christ society.

Why anyone who is actually a Christian be "concerned" over a Pope who right up front says we have to, "build the Church on the Blood of the Lord, which is shed on the Cross, and to profess the one glory, Christ Crucified.

The only people upset are the anti-Christ anti-Catholic fascists, anti-Christ anti-Catholic queers, and anti-Christ anti-Catholic liars who make a living off of the lies they tell about about the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church Jesus Christ Himself founded.

No offense, just stating facts.

24 posted on 03/14/2013 4:35:40 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: marshmallow
When one does not profess Jesus Christ - I recall the phrase of Leon Bloy – “Whoever does not pray to God, prays to the devil.” When one does not profess Jesus Christ, one professes the worldliness of the devil.

Wow

Pope Francis quoted Leon Bloy. The [blunt] Bloy ("Any Christian who is not a hero is a pig,") a French Catholic writer, once said “The only tragedy in life is not to become a saint.” Perhaps Pope Francis will advance Bloy's cause. ♥
25 posted on 03/14/2013 5:25:53 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: ArrogantBustard
"Yeah ... he's probably an albino monk assassin in disguise."

Silly. Everybody knows that's Opus Dei < /sarc>

26 posted on 03/14/2013 5:34:32 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: SubMareener
In your transcript it says pitiful NGO, but in the press version it said compassionate NGO.

Actually, the true meaning of "pitiful" is exactly that: full of pity, ie, compassionate.

The correct word for what most people mean when they say "pitiful" is "pitiable."

27 posted on 03/14/2013 5:37:45 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: marshmallow

The Pope used an English acronym? What others does he us? SNAFU? LOL? WTF?


28 posted on 03/14/2013 5:37:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; ArrogantBustard; dfwgator; married21

Mrs. Don-o,

Thank you for your well reasoned and informative response. I’ve never seen The Mission, but plan to soon.


29 posted on 03/14/2013 6:11:24 PM PDT by Bizhvywt
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To: Fawn

He nailed it. That is what liberal Catholics want to make of the Church. What they don’t leave; they wanted to gain control of its assets to further their utopian dreams of heaven on earth.


30 posted on 03/14/2013 6:41:42 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: married21

I am fairly sure that the guys at Georgetown are not exactly thrilled. Francis can greet them and say, “I have understood you. “ He will not stand them up against a wall, but he is not their friend.


31 posted on 03/14/2013 6:44:32 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
  1. Inspiring or deserving pity.
  2. Arousing contemptuous pity, as through ineptitude or inadequacy. See Synonyms at pathetic.
  3. Archaic Filled with pity or compassion.

From http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/pitiful I would have to see the original Latin or Italian, but I wouldn't assume the Pope would go with the archaic meaning.
32 posted on 03/14/2013 6:45:06 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: marshmallow

I saw this on AlJazeerah, and the reporter noted that the word he used for “compassionate” could also be translated as “pitiful”...

sounds like it came out more nuanced in Italian than the BBC would like to admit.


33 posted on 03/15/2013 4:39:45 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: Fawn

NGO = non-governmental organization; basically, a non-profit secular organization


34 posted on 03/15/2013 4:48:14 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: marshmallow
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35 posted on 03/18/2013 4:22:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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