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Report: Pope Francis bans disgraced Cardinal Law from his church
St. Peter's List ^ | March 15, 2013 | John Bingham

Posted on 03/15/2013 2:28:15 PM PDT by Hilda

The article, from the somewhat sordid “Daily Mail,” reprints Italian news reports. In pertinent part:

So when the appearance of a disgraced cardinal threatened to cast a shadow over his first engagement, Francis I made sure it couldn’t happen again – by banning him from his own church.

Cardinal Bernard Law resigned as Archbishop of Boston in 2002, after being accused of actively covering up for a litany of paedophile priests.’

Despite the scandal which exploded to engulf the entire church, he was given an honorary position at the Basilica Santa Maria Maggiore, in Rome.

Though now retired, the cardinal still enjoys a grace and favour apartment in the cathedral complex. So hearing that the new Pope was offering prayers at the very same church, it seems he couldn’t resist a discreet peak.

But when Pope Francis recognised him, he immediately ordered that Law be removed, according to Italian media reports. He went on to command: ‘He is not to come to this church any more.’

One of the new Pope’s first acts will be to arrange new ‘cloistered’ accommodation for the disgraced cardinal, the Italian daily, Il Fatto Quotidiano, reported.

Has the cleaning of the Lord’s House begun?


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bernardlaw; boston; cardinallaw; catholic; francis; law; ma; massachusetts; pope; popefrancis; scandal
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To: RummyChick

This is a long but interesting article about what Archbishop O’Malley faced after the rotten core of Bernard Law

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/2012/10/archdiocese-catholic-church-rebuild-after-scandal/


101 posted on 03/15/2013 5:54:54 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: mlizzy

IF Pope Francis exiles Law into a monestery then I will know he is on the right track.

I told you that I would praise the previous Pope if it looked like he “fell on the sword” to bring in someone who was strong enough to take on factions in the Church.

Still waiting to see on that one.

It is no easy task. I hope Pope Francis has a strong body to last awhile.


104 posted on 03/15/2013 6:14:02 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Hilda

There is a line missing from this story. (And I in no way am defending Cardinal Law’s wrongdoings.)

But we don’t know if Cardinal Law confessed his sins and was forgiven.

This will be interesting to follow.


105 posted on 03/15/2013 7:05:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goldi
Not knowing a whole lot about monastic life, and having noted that Pope Francis has more the habits of a hermit than a monk, Cardinal Law might well have never experienced total isolation, nor expect it.

Maybe he's given such a dreadful choice he'll abandon church office and throw himself on the mercy of enablers he knows.

106 posted on 03/15/2013 8:05:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hilda; posterchild; ColdOne; navymom1; Pat4ever; RIghtwardHo; Reaganite Republican; ...
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107 posted on 03/15/2013 8:06:14 PM PDT by narses
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To: Hilda
ON FRANCIS POSTED BY ANN BARNHARDT - MARCH 14,

I was waiting for this and she did not disappoint. I'm no judge of its accuracy.

108 posted on 03/15/2013 8:18:43 PM PDT by Stentor (Shhhh!)
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To: RummyChick
LOL. Several dioceses bankrupt, innocent priests (as well as guilty ones) in prison, other innocent priests who can't go out in public without being called filthy names, Catholic parents who can't even drive kids on a field trip without being background-checked, and you think -- "you will start to pay a price" ????????

This long ago stopped being about punishing the guilty. I'm totally in favor of punishing the guilty. This is about destroying the innocent right along with, and sometimes in preference to, the guilty. It's a lynch mob mentality, and it's aided and abetted by an MSM who would never in a million years dream of encouraging people to assume that all public school teachers are perverts, but have no problem implying that a few evil priests are typical of all of them.

109 posted on 03/15/2013 9:17:11 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: RummyChick

I don’t see that as a conflict. I don’t have a problem with him meeting with Law. Depends what it was about, and what he told Law.


110 posted on 03/15/2013 9:17:38 PM PDT by Hilda
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To: Hilda

It would be for the best of everybody, including Cardinal Law, if he were sent to a monastery, to live out his life in quiet contemplation.


111 posted on 03/15/2013 10:13:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Hilda

bumpus ad summum


112 posted on 03/15/2013 10:33:48 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: muawiyah

You’re probably right.


113 posted on 03/16/2013 6:17:14 AM PDT by goldi
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To: goldi

Please send Milwaukee’s disgraced former Archbishop Weakland to live with him.


114 posted on 03/16/2013 6:51:40 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: nickcarraway

he’s an old guy ~ tens of millions of the elderly around the world live in poverty on the streets ~ let Law join them.


115 posted on 03/16/2013 7:36:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RummyChick

I won’t miss him. Will you?


116 posted on 03/16/2013 2:56:43 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; SuziQ; Campion; fatima

If you have a connection you should try to listen to WBZ tonight. There is a program on about Cardinal Law and the sex abuse scandal. These are not anti-Catholic folks. They’re very informed about the history, the problem and the cover-up. They feel it’s pretty clear, the former Cardinal Law isn’t going to come back and face questions.


117 posted on 03/19/2013 6:07:42 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: RummyChick

I should have pinged you.


118 posted on 03/19/2013 6:12:01 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: old and tired
Law was at Sta. Maria Maggiore in Rome (Italy) not in the Vatican City. The U.S. has an extradition treaty with Italy. He could have been picked up by the Italian authorities at any time, if there were charges, an arrest warrant, an indictment, anything.

The fact is that Law is not a fugitive because there are not, and have not been, any criminal charges. And this is because the Mass. AG and the district attorneys in 5 counties did not turn up any perjury, obstruction of justice, criminal conspiracy, civil liability or anything of the sort.

Sorry.

If you've got any additional information on him that could lead to an indictment, go right on ahead. Throw the book at him.

119 posted on 03/19/2013 6:37:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you. May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Oh Weakland, yeah. He treated good priests and good Catholic laypeople horribly. Friends of mine --- the stories I could tell. He was the enabler and patron of pro-abortion, pro-perversion "theologians". And then there was the grand theft/embezzlement of $450,000 from the Archdiocese to buy off an ex-lover to prevent him from suing him. Never prosecuted.

I'd never leave the Catholic Church, but if I had lived in that Archdiocese I fear I would have been tempted to aggravated assault.

May God have mercy.

120 posted on 03/19/2013 6:48:26 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you. May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: ladyjane
They feel it’s pretty clear, the former Cardinal Law isn’t going to come back and face questions.

What other questions would he need to 'face'? He stayed in Boston for over a year, during the Attorney General's investigation, giving testimony when asked. He took responsibility for not following up when these priests were mentioned, even though his Auxiliary Bishops were the ones who SHOULD have been directly overseeing the priests. He admitted that he was too 'pastoral' with the men, not concerned enough about the young men who were abused, or young girls in a very few cases.

He has been the only Bishop in the US to resign his office, again, taking responsibility for his inaction. He never faced any charges, and won't face any in the future. In most cases, the majority of which happened before Law came to Boston, the statute of limitations had already run out, so there were no convictions on the older cases. Geoghan was the most recent, and he WAS sent to prison, where he was killed by an inmate.

The Attorney General, in a public news conference, announced that there were no charges that would be filed against Cardinal Law, though he stated he wished there were something they could use against him. So Law isn't 'hiding from justice' in Rome. I think he is just staying as far as he can from Boston in hopes the media won't hound Cardinal O'Malley.

121 posted on 03/19/2013 7:19:39 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Mrs. Don-o

What’s with the attitude? I just gave my (very qualified) recollection. If you are familiar with the facts, a simple recounting would have done. The man who shielded Geoghan and Shanley doesn’t deserve more than that.


122 posted on 03/19/2013 7:43:38 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: old and tired
I apologize. I didn't mean to show a bad attitude. I must have given an impression that wasn't intentional.

I am sincere when I say that if there is enough evidence for a criminal indictment, do it. Neither you nor I would want to shield a pedophilia enabler.

123 posted on 03/19/2013 7:57:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you. May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: old and tired
I just re-read mine and I honestly can't see where I expressed an offensive tone. Nevertheless, I am sorry.

I guess I must have read about 15 times on FR that Law was sprinting to the Vatican just ahead of the process-server. I get a little snippy having to correct the same factual errors over and over.. I don't blame you, of course. Once the meme is out there, it's repeated endlessly. It's hard to track down what happened and what didn't.

124 posted on 03/19/2013 8:05:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you. May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: SuziQ; Mrs. Don-o; fatima; Campion; RummyChick

“Law and Connolly had left Boston for Washington just hours before state troopers assigned to the office of Mass. Attorney General Thomas F. Reilly arrived in Brighton with subpoenas seeking the grand jury testimony of Law and six other bishops who presided over what Reilly has called a massive coverup of child abuse.”

“The beginning of the end may have been Nov. 25, when Superior Court Judge Constance M. Sweeney declared that the archdiocese’s records contradicted Law’s sworn testimony that he and his aides did not return some abusive priests to parish work without first determining that they posed no risk to children. Not only did the judge suggest the cardinal was lying, she ordered the release of 11,000 pages of church documents about the abusive actions of priests, and the actions of the cardinal and others to hide those crimes from public view.” [BTW the judge who ordered the release of the documents is a practicing Catholic, as is the AG. They both went to the same high school along with the editor of the Globe who is now on the faculty of Notre Dame. These are not anti-Catholic zealots.]

“On Dec. 3, lawyers for alleged victims released the first 2,200 pages of the 11,000 Sweeney ruled on. The documents portrayed a rogue’s gallery of priests who fondled teenagers preparing to be nuns, traded drugs for sex with minors, beat up their housekeepers, and fathered children.

http://www.boston.com/globe/spotlight/abuse/stories3/121402_final_days.htm


125 posted on 03/20/2013 6:42:25 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: ladyjane; SuzyQ
Suzy Q's at #82

There seems to be a dispute here on to points of fact:

SuzyQ, have you a link?

Ladyjane, have you an explanation?

126 posted on 03/20/2013 7:51:14 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you. May He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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To: ladyjane

Thanks for the links LadyJane.


127 posted on 03/20/2013 8:34:48 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Hilda
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128 posted on 03/20/2013 8:57:13 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I don't have any links, but being close to Boston, we got all the news. There never was a warrant out on Cardinal Law, because he was never in danger of being arrested. There was an ongoing investigation, and the Attorney General called Cardinal Law in to give testimony. He did that, and once he was cleared of anything that might have been criminal, and was free to go, he resigned as Bishop. He went to Maryland for a year, living in a monastery, in prayer.

I believe it was only after that time that he went to Rome, for good, to take up his position at St. Mary Major Basilica, which was already 'his' Church in Rome. Most, if not all, of the active Cardinals have a Church for which they are 'Pastors'. He was active Pastor there until he reached the age of 80, at which time he was no longer an active Cardinal. Now he is 'Pastor Emeritus' at St. Mary Major, where the supposed kerfuffle occurred.

Everyone knew where Bernie Law was; if there had been a warrant out on him, he could have been picked up at any time.

129 posted on 03/20/2013 8:11:03 PM PDT by SuziQ
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