Skip to comments.Report: Pope Francis bans disgraced Cardinal Law from his church
Posted on 03/15/2013 2:28:15 PM PDT by Hilda
The article, from the somewhat sordid Daily Mail, reprints Italian news reports. In pertinent part:
So when the appearance of a disgraced cardinal threatened to cast a shadow over his first engagement, Francis I made sure it couldnt happen again by banning him from his own church.
Cardinal Bernard Law resigned as Archbishop of Boston in 2002, after being accused of actively covering up for a litany of paedophile priests.
Despite the scandal which exploded to engulf the entire church, he was given an honorary position at the Basilica Santa Maria Maggiore, in Rome.
Though now retired, the cardinal still enjoys a grace and favour apartment in the cathedral complex. So hearing that the new Pope was offering prayers at the very same church, it seems he couldnt resist a discreet peak.
But when Pope Francis recognised him, he immediately ordered that Law be removed, according to Italian media reports. He went on to command: He is not to come to this church any more.
One of the new Popes first acts will be to arrange new cloistered accommodation for the disgraced cardinal, the Italian daily, Il Fatto Quotidiano, reported.
Has the cleaning of the Lords House begun?
I forgive you for bearing false witness against me.
Help us to understand, what did I say about Law that set you off?
That's really a bizarre comment. Try, if you can, to read whole posts. Try, if you can, to comprehend them.
That's for both of you. Seriously, if either of you thinks I'm defending Law, you're either nuts or stupid, or negligent..
No intelligent being, capable of reading and understanding the English language, can possibly, in good faith interpret my comments as a defense of Law.
Which one is it?Or did it happen at all?
Read what I wrote. Strive to comprehend it. I'm quite sure that you're capable of such.
Really? I didn't know that.Hmmmmm.However,OTOH,this looks like just the kind of thing that Attorney Corporal Holder's puppet master would want him to sink his teeth into.
Seriously, something in my post 20 stirred you up, what was it?
ROFL!!! I see what you did there ...
Holder is the US Attorney Corporal ... Law was associated with offenses which are State crimes. The Commonwealth's Attorney had a shot at him, and couldn't find anything criminal. Being a dirtbag and a lousy Bishop is not a crime.
I'm quite sure that you're capable of comprehending it.
Thanks very much. I read both articles. A little confusing with the translations, but it’s clear that Pope Francis has no use for Law and won’t tolerate his presence. I’m not sure he’s willing to sanction Law’s continued residency in Santa Maria Maggiore.
Why is Law still a cardinal? Why is Law still in the church at all? He has been protected by the church...that's why.
Slandering people who question the church on this as ‘anti-catholic’ is aiding and abbedding the church (not catholics) in it's attempts to avoid accountability.
The Massachusetts AG actually sent troopers to Cardinal Law’s residence to serve him with papers one afternoon. The person answering the door claimed Law wasn’t at home. The next day Cardinal Law took the first Al Italia flight out of Logan Airport. First class, of course.
Evidently Law has support that I wasn’t aware of.
I didn’t anticipate your reaction to this simple post.
“Why isn’t he just fired and told to move on, kicked out of the church’s big boys, and sent back to regular American living as an ordinary person?”
If you're intent on insulting someone, at least use spell-check and proper grammar. Your sentence should read:
Slandering people who question the church on this as "anti-Catholic" is aiding and abetting the church (not Catholics) in its attempts
please pardon my transgression...
Of course. We Catholics believe in forgiveness.
starting to be held accountable.
I bet Law never sets foot in the US again.
Your right,I know a lot of pissed off Catholic.Throw these dirtbags in jail.If they can’t be locked up shame them and get rid of them.What about a Catholic court to get rid of the scum if they can’t be arrested.The people who are protecting them should be locked up too.Send them to Philly forget the Vatican.We are locking up all their asses.
If Pope Francis doesn’t excommunicate Law, maybe he will force him to be cloistered and Law will leave on his own.
We have to figure out a way to reach the average Catholic voter, and I think that some highly visible cases of public humiliation and rejection, and even excommunication, or in Law’s case, removal from the hierarchy and being reduced to normal citizen status and mere pew sitter, would receive massive publicity and would penetrate into the Catholic rank and file and the immigrants.
We need some flash and dazzle, some heavy public battles and publicity to reach the average people who don’t keep up with much media and make them realize that they better get with the program and start voting as Christians.
I don’t know how the statute of limitations works in cases such as these.
If he can’t come back he’ll miss his 50th Harvard reunion.
Interesting that you would define yourself in that way.
Please allow me to further explain. I define myself as a Catholic, not as a non-Prostestant or other "non".
However, I do appreciate your polite reply.
Dream on,I worked with them and for many souls.The true souls are few.The rest vote their pocketbook.I am famous for quitting for every Obama victory since I work in Catholic stuff big time.
“Previously, the anti-catholic herd brayed that Law should be in prison.” - AB
Pro-Catholics too. It is in the Church’s best interest to recognize its flaws, when they occur, and take action to restore the faith and trust of Catholics. Right?
Nice move Pope Francis.
>So ... Benedict XVI removed Law from power in Boston (snip) in a meaningless post in the Vatcian.<
If all this took place in 2002, after Law resigned, then it must’ve been JP II who rescued him.
I hope not.
Your link has nothing to do with Cardinal Law. Law was investigated, but not indicted, which means there’s no “statute of limitations” issue which could arise. That only has to do with the time between a commission of a criminal offense and the filing of an arrest warrant identifying the subject.
Moral clarity is a refreshing thing!
Don't know where you got your info. Cardinal Law stayed in Boston while the Attorney General did his investigation. After the AG had his press conference stating that the State wasn't going to charge the Cardinal with any crimes, Law left Boston, and went to Maryland, where he stayed in a monastery for a year, in prayer.
After THAT, he moved to Rome to live at the Basilica of St. Mary Major, which was his parish in Rome (I believe every active Cardinal has a 'home parish' in Rome). Now that Law has reached retirement age, and is no longer an Active Cardinal, he is now Cardinal Emeritus of St. Mary Major, and there is an active Cardinal in his place.
Information came from the horse’s mouth.
That link absolutely has something to do with Law.
It shows that Catholics are starting to be held accountable even though they didn’t do the molesting themselves.
:)Guess they couldn’t follow him to Rome.
Cardinal Law was fully investigated by the state Attorney General and the district attorneys in all five counties of the Archdiocese. He gave evidence before two grand juries. The state Attorney General, after several years of aggressive press and intense scrutiny, concluded that Law had not tried to evade investigation and had not broken any laws.
If there were a warrant against Cardinal Law, nothing in US and International law would have shielded from extradition or indictment. Certainly not the mere fact that he was, and is resident in Rome. He could be picked up by the Italian police any day as he traveled to and from Sta. Maria Maggiore, which is on Italian, not Vatican City, territory.
Ladyjane, you make the interesting charge that The Massachusetts AG actually sent troopers to Cardinal Laws residence to serve him with papers one afternoon.
Can you provide a link on that? A date? I havent seen that in the press.
If that's true, why wasnt he extradited?
Upon turning 80 in November 2011, Law became ineligible to participate in any papal conclave or to hold any Curial memberships, and was replaced as archpriest of Sta Maria Maggiore more than a year ago, by Archbishop Santos Abril y Castelló.
As I said before, I would appreciate any updates or correction with, of course, links.
It didn’t mention Cardinal Law, nor the place where he had jurisdiction, nor any case with which he was involved. The grand jury in Mass. isn’t going to reopen the case against Law based on stuff that happened in a completely different case involving different people 2000 miles away.
If this is true, it's better for him to be in the clergy, and under supervision, rather than "kicked out" and not under supervision.
My recollections aren't always accurate anymore, but I really was of the impression that Law was afraid to come back to Boston. If I'm wrong, why is he retired in another country instead of spending his final years near family and friends.
Here in Philadelphia, if Cardinal Bevilacqua hadn't died, I have no doubt he'd be sitting in a cell next to Msgr. Lynn and serving a longer sentence
And then he later returned to Boston and testified. He is not a fugitive from justice. Read the Wikipedia page on him if you don't believe me.
And we didn’t have near the problem down here in Philly that they had up in Boston.
A grand jury is perfectly capable of indicating someone who is out of the country or otherwise unavailable. It happens all the time.
Those sodomites took over the church during in the 16th century: Pope Leo X, and Pope Julius III - exhibits A and B.
My first thought was a lot of people have no idea what is about to happen. A Jesuit Pope OH MY
“Indicating” = “indicting”. Auto-correct got me.
Well, that is certainly true.
I hear you old and tired.We have another priest coming up for trial in Philly.
The POINT is that times are a changin’ and the Catholic Church is going to be held accountable.
Those of you that have looked the other way and hid the pedophiles will start to pay a price.
They tried to find a way to “hang him”
What is interesting is that this guy
was a key in hiding sexual abuse cases. He hired Castaldo even though he was warned that Castaldo was unfit to be a Priest.
Child Molesting Castaldo was a Priest around the time the Newtown Mass Murderer was a boy in that Parish.
And his close friend and confidant just got busted for being a Transvestite Priest hustling meth.
The depths of depravity in the Catholic church are mind boggling.
I hope Pope Francis does something about it.