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To: PeevedPatriot

You don’t want Vice president Biden and Ex-speaker Nancy Pelosi refused communion as was first declared that this new Pope was going to do on this thread?

I never proposed a “strategy”, I thought that was what you guys wanted and were saying that this “new” Pope was going to do, I merely expressed hope at the result.

The Catholic vote is killing us and supports the pro-abortion movement and the democrat party, what I am learning here is that there is no Catholic desire to change it.

Do you know that Catholics have only voted republican five times in history, and that non-Catholic Christians (Protestants) have only voted democrat, 3 times in history (1932, 1936, and 1964)?


135 posted on 03/17/2013 1:19:09 AM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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To: ansel12
You don’t want Vice president Biden and Ex-speaker Nancy Pelosi refused communion as was first declared that this new Pope was going to do on this thread?

I want it handled by the cardinals so they don't present themselves for communion in the first place. They should be instructed to stay in their seats and it shouldn't even get to the point of a refusal. The Mass is an occasion of solemn worship and it shouldn't be turned into a spectacle.

The Catholic vote is killing us and supports the pro-abortion movement and the democrat party, what I am learning here is that there is no Catholic desire to change it.

Now see, this is the kind of statement that perturbs me. Disagreement about methods isn't disagreement about need for change. As for supporting the proabortion movement, only ONCE in the last 5 years have I met a nonCatholic on the sidewalks outside the abortuary. But Catholics are there freezing, roasting, getting soaked, sunburned, and parched. While I can appreciate your frustration I don't appreciate being painted with the wide proabortion brush.

As for stats, it's been a long time since my stats and surveying courses, but I remember enough to look at them with a grain of salt. I don't deny that many Catholics are leaving the faith outside the voting booth. But I don't believe the data is as pure as some would have us believe. My cousin's St Bernard would be classified Catholic in some of those polls!

Bottom line, there is hope on a number of fronts but I'm too tired to get into it just now. Maybe if all of us spent more time praying for each other instead of tearing into each other we'd be making more progress ;)

136 posted on 03/17/2013 2:03:47 AM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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