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Oh, we are in deep, deep trouble
Barnhardt.biz ^ | 03/16/2013 | Ann Barnhardt

Posted on 03/16/2013 7:33:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Posted by Ann Barnhardt - March 16, AD 2013 8:08 PM MST
Here is the full video of Pope Francis' first Mass in the Sistine Chapel.

The consecration of the Host happens at 51:47. The consecration of the Chalice happens at 52:32.

I cannot believe I am about to type these words.

The Pope DID NOT GENUFLECT after either consecration. He did a weird bow thing, but didn't feel the need to bend his knee to God Almighty, physically present in his hands upon the altar.

HE. DID. NOT. GENUFLECT.

This is absolutely stunning. And unprecedented.

Oh yeah, we're in deep, deep trouble.

But hey, all of you guys who are sending me emails whining about how I'm not nice, or something, go ahead and explain this one. He is perfectly physically sound. He FREELY CHOOSES to not reverence Our Lord in the Eucharist upon the altar.

Oh, and he also didn't genuflect to Our Lord in the Tabernacle when he went to Santa Maria Maggiore on Thursday morning, either. Um, how can a man truly love Our Lady if he doesn't first show even the slightest respect to her Son? Someone please explain that one to me.

Hey! I have an idea! Let's do a Pope watch. First one to see the Pope genuflect to Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, and not to a Superfun Rockband church pastor, wins! In the mean time, everyone should pray for Pope Francis and that he learns to show Our Lord the tiniest bit of respect and GENUFLECT to Him after He comes down onto the altar, and whenever he approaches or crosses the plane of a Tabernacle in which Our Lord is physically present. I think that would be a great prayer intention for one and all.

I never occurred to me that my desire to do penance in reparation to Our Lord for the sacrileges of the world would include the consecration rubrics of THE POPE.

Kyrie eleison. Christe eleison. Kyrie eleison.



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To: terycarl

girl dies for 23 hours and gives testimony of who she saw in hell.. “foward video to 26:00”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlsZuB0OgWQ


81 posted on 03/16/2013 9:30:29 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Matthew 6:5


82 posted on 03/16/2013 9:40:40 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Houghton M.

I take my cue from Obama...no rules - no fouls.


83 posted on 03/16/2013 9:41:20 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

84 posted on 03/16/2013 9:42:58 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: Alex Murphy
"And now we have a demon for pope"

If we put the 'antichrist' language back in the Confession, I'm thinking the Presbyterians could pick up a few new members here.

85 posted on 03/16/2013 9:45:32 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: mnehring

LOLOLOLOLOL


86 posted on 03/16/2013 9:51:16 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: Houghton M.
So from this:

"From now on all generations will call me blessed, 49 for the Mighty One has done great things for me— holy is his name"

You believe the Bible calls for worship (veneration) of Mary?

Have you ever done a word study on Mary - including Jesus' instruction on her heavenly position or offspring after having Jesus?

Then His Mother and His brothers came to Him but were unable to join Him because of the crowd. He was told, “Your Mother and Your brothers are standing outside and they wish to see you.” He said to them in reply, “My Mother and My brothers are those who hear the word of God and act on it.”

While He was speaking, a woman from the crowd called out and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that carried you and the breasts at which you nursed.” He replied, “Rather, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it.”


87 posted on 03/16/2013 10:09:02 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Reminds me of the time someone was complaining that someone said “aye-man” instead of “ah-men”. How day he pronounce it that way...blashphemer


88 posted on 03/16/2013 10:10:18 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: uncommonsense

“Rather, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it.” May God bless us, all


89 posted on 03/16/2013 10:17:48 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Houghton M.

“...and in Luke 11:27-28 where Jesus tells the woman in the crowd that his mother, being the one who more than anyone else, hears the word of God and keeps it, should be honored as a way of honoring him.


LOL. How do you get that out of this?:

Luk 11:27-28 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. (28) But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Yea, RATHER, blessed are they that hear the word of God and keep it.

“Like I wrote earlier, disputes over interpretation of the Bible . . . .”


Instead of finding interpretations, you should have just read it plainly.


90 posted on 03/16/2013 10:21:30 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Houghton M.

“Actually, the Bible guys tended to go more for prostration, falling totally flat on their faces before Almighty God. “


Falling totally flat on our faces in front of an altar doesn’t strike me as bowing before Almighty God. I’ll pass on the activity.


91 posted on 03/16/2013 10:23:26 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Houghton M.

“What does the Bible have to do with it?”


Heh! There’s the problem right there.


92 posted on 03/16/2013 10:25:09 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

No, if you looked at the philology, you see that the conjunction can be a “no not that but this” contrast or a “yest that but even more this

it is used both ways in Scripture.

So you can’t resolve it philologically, so you go to context.

In the Infancy Narratives Mary is the epitome of those who hear the word of God and keep it.

Not to conclude that Jesus is endorsing the blessedness of his own mother when he says that those who hear the word of God and keep it (she kept the Word in a way no one else could, in her womb, as well as pondering the words of God to her from the angels and magi and so on and so forth).

This is the only realistic way to interpret that passage: anyone who read Luke would see immediately the connection between 11:27-28 and Luke 2:15, 2:51 etc.

Elementary exegesis. Never noticed that, did you? Wonder why? Presuppostions you bring to Scripture, perhaps?


93 posted on 03/16/2013 10:26:06 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.

“Not to conclude that Jesus is endorsing . . . is to be impervious to the obvious intention of the writer of Luke”


94 posted on 03/16/2013 10:27:37 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Jeff Winston

It is tradition. Here is scripture discussing tradition.

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Paul illustrated what tradition is: “For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures. . . . Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed” (1 Cor. 15:3,11). The apostle praised those who followed Tradition: “I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you” (1 Cor. 11:2).


95 posted on 03/16/2013 10:30:14 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Houghton M.

I was typing a long response but the basketball game got too exciting! NMSU won the WAC! When they were playing at the goal to the right I could see my granddaughter when the ref wasn’t standing front of her. So anyway my mind just lost direction, maybe tomorrow.


96 posted on 03/16/2013 10:30:25 PM PDT by tiki
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To: uncommonsense

Learn something about words, please.

Veneration means honor. We routinely venerate people,humans. I venerate my mother and you should too because it’s one of the Ten Commandments: Venerate your father and mother that your days will be long in the earth.””

Thats ALL veneration means.

Worship comes from worthship, ascribing worth. Originally it was applied both to humans and God. BUT with the difference that the worth you ascribe to God is different from the worth you ascribe to humans. Even “worship” can properly be offered to humans if by that you merely mean what the word once meant: give the worth they deserve. My father deserves father-worth, my dog deserve dog-worth, God deserves God-worth or dignity.

Elites, not merely kings (magistrates) etc. were called “worshipful gentlement” etc. “Your Worship” was a human title 400 years ago and no one thought the speaker was worshiping the human as God.

But in modern English worship has come to be restricted to ascribing divine worth to the Divine, to God.

So we restrict our honor of Mary to veneration. You will NEVER find the term worship applied to Mary in any modern Catholic writing. If you find it in archaic writings, but read it in a modern way, you are a fool and an idiot, ignorant of history and language.

We venerate Mary as a human being who said Yes to God and carried Him in her womb and nursed him and changed His diapers.

Jesus himself honored his mother. Had Jesus not honored (venerated) His mother, He would have sinned, broken one of the Ten Commandments and he would not be your Savior and mine.

So stop it with the falsehoods you spread about us.

Luther honored and venerated Mary to the end of his life. Wesley did, and believed in her perpetual virginity. Calvin honored (venerated) her. They all did what the woman in the crowd did, whom Jesus endorsed but also used as a teaching moment and in the teaching honored his own mother as one who more than any other heard and kept the word of God.

You are the odd man out. You are the one defying centuries of the life of the Church, both East and West, Protestant and Catholic.

You know better than Wesley,Luther, Calvin, I’m sure. You know so much better than they because you never bothered even to learn what they had to say about Mary.


97 posted on 03/16/2013 10:37:11 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

You do realize that was sarcastic????


98 posted on 03/16/2013 10:39:41 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.

“No, if you looked at the philology, you see that the conjunction can be a “no not that but this” contrast or a “yest that but even more this”


It doesn’t actually matter, since I wasn’t disputing the usage.

If a Christian hears the word of God, he is blessed.

It says nothing about Mary being specially blessed. In fact, the moment that is suggested by the woman, Jesus connects the blessedness to every believer, “BUT Jesus said, yea, RATHER, blessed are they...”

I don’t care how you philopapacize it, please demonstrate how any of that turns into: “being the one who more than anyone else, hears the word of God and keeps it, should be honored as a way of honoring him.”

So, where does it say that she is blessed “more than anyone else” who hears the word of God and obeys it? Where does it say that you must honor Mary to honor Him? He doesn’t say anything of the sort. It simply says, “Yea, rather, blessed are THEY who hear the word of God and obey it.”


99 posted on 03/16/2013 10:42:48 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Houghton M.

Yet, you do. Amazing. You know what God has written in any given persons’ heart. How is that?


100 posted on 03/16/2013 10:44:35 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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