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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

YOu know, that’s a cheap shot.

Scripture is where we got the “Hail Mary.” The Angel said it to Mary. We merely repeat the Angel’s words combined with Elizabeth’s words to her, then we ask Mary to join us in prayer and to pray for us.

She is a Christian. Mary is the first to believe in Christ. She is my sister in Christ. I ask my brother and sister Christians to pray for my needs.

That’s all we do.

I shake the dust off my feet.

111 posted on 03/16/2013 11:02:02 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.

“YOu know, that’s a cheap shot.”

How’s it cheap? You said that the Roman veneration of Mary is the same one due to our own mothers and fathers.

“That’s all we do.”


CCC par. 2675, “Beginning with Mary’s unique cooperation with the working of the Holy Spirit, the Churches developed their prayer to the holy Mother of God, centering it on the person of Christ manifested in his mysteries...”

She cooperates with the Holy Spirit uniquely?

CCC 969, “Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.”

She’s the mediatrix!? I thought we only had ONE Mediator between God and men, Jesus Christ.

1Ti_2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

CCC 721, “Mary, the all-holy ever-virgin Mother of God, is the masterwork of the mission of the Son and the Spirit in the fullness of time....Mary is acclaimed and represented in the liturgy as the “Seat of Wisdom.”

The seat of wisdom!?

CCC 966, “Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death.” You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.”

She is the queen of all things and even delivers our souls from death?

CCC, 2030, “It is in the Church, in communion with all the baptized, that the Christian fulfills his vocation...From the Church he learns the example of holiness and recognizes its model and source in the all-holy Virgin Mary...”

Mary the model of holiness??

So, doesn’t look like y’all are just praying to her, as you would anybody else. (Umm, why are you praying to PEOPLE again instead of God directly? And where is any of this justified in the scripture?)

I also wonder how Mary, who is but a human being, is able to hear and process the prayers of billions of Catholics without receiving the attributes of God? That is, omnipresence or omniscience?

117 posted on 03/16/2013 11:15:24 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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